New build worth it?

lyndonguitar · Mar 9, 2013, 05:02 AM

I am building this rig

CPU: Intel Core i7 3770K Unlocked
GPU: Power Color HD 7950 3gb/384bit ddr5
RAM: Corsair Vengeance (Dual) 2x8gb ddr3 1600 CL10
MOBO: lga1155 Asus P8H77 M PRO
CASING: Cooler Master Storm Trooper
COOLER: Corsair H100i Hydro Series CPU Cooler
PSU: Corsair HX 650watts (HX650), Modular
hdd/ssd: OCZ Vertex 4 128gb sata 3

Is this a good upgrade compared to my current rig??? (the i7 one) I will be adding my three monitors, and the HDDs from that rig.

How much performance increase would I get?

also, I will sell my current rig plus some other old items to make up for the price, and will only be really spending for around $250 to "upgrade" to that rig.

EDIT: can that PSU handle dual 7950s? I am planning to buy another one if I get enough money

Law-II · Mar 9, 2013, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by lyndonguitar

MOBO: lga1155 Asus P8H77 M PRO

Hi

not realy great choice for dual HD 7950's as the mobo only supports Expansion Slots
1 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (blue) *2
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 mode, black)
Source - http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8H...specifications

get a mobo that supports
2 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 or dual x8) *3
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 mode, black)

-

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyndonguitar

can that PSU handle dual 7950s? I am planning to buy another one if I get enough money

General Guide ■750W (or greater) power supply with four 75W 6-pin PCI Express power connectors recommended for AMD CrossFire™ technology
Source - http://www.amd.com/uk/products/deskt...n-7950.aspx#/2

atb (all the best)

Law-II

LDNL · Mar 9, 2013, 07:55 AM

SLI and Crossfire are never worth the money so just swap the graphics card and get one powerful card. Also add a ssd to the current rig. Everything else isnt worth it.

puma99dk| · Mar 9, 2013, 08:02 AM

well choosing a "K" processor than a H77 chipset which ain't made for overclocking doesn't make sense, take a Z77 or take a non "K" processor.

Jetster · Mar 9, 2013, 09:01 AM

Keep your current MB and CPU. Buy a SSD and two 7970. Or get a Z77 board

Dent1 · Mar 9, 2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LDNL

SLI and Crossfire are never worth the money

Really? So why do people do it?

DarkOCean · Mar 9, 2013, 11:48 AM

@ OP - after looking @ your system specs my conclusion is: just buy a new gpu.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dent1

Really? So why do people do it?

too much money.

Dent1 · Mar 9, 2013, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LDNL

SLI and Crossfire are never worth the money

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkOCean

too much money.

Remember back in 2009 when two 5770 were £90 and performed on par with an 4870 X2 @ £300

Got my 5850 for about £70 each which performed on par with a 5970 @ £900. 4 years later even some of today's upper-midrange cards struggle to keep up!

My friend when done correctly CF can save you money.

DarkOCean · Mar 9, 2013, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dent1

Remember back in 2009 when two 5770 were £90 and performed on par with an 4870 X2 @ £300

Got my 5850 for about £70 each. which performed on par with a 5970 @ £900

My friend when done correctly CF can save you money.

I'm taking about new "high end" cards not clearance or any special offer.

-about the cross 5770 -i would choose 5850 any day and even at lauch it was cheaper than two 5770.

Dent1 · Mar 9, 2013, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkOCean

-about the cross 5770 -i would choose 5850 any day and even at lauch it was cheaper than two 5770.

Me too, because a single 5850 is about as fast as two 5770s or a single 4870x2.

But what if you had your 5770 or GTS 250 for 1 year already? dropping in a second back in 2009-2010 would have upgraded a midrange card into something high end by spending 1/3 the cost. For LDNL to say its never worth the money I strongly disagree with, I'm not saying crossfire or SLI is always value for money but it has it's uses.

Fourstaff · Mar 9, 2013, 12:38 PM

Crossfire at your own risk, its generally worth the money but if things go wrong then you will end up kicking yourself. Most people are better off getting single graphics solution, but those who want to take the risk and tinkering can do well with getting crossfire.

Yes I think $250 for the upgrade is pretty decent. You will lose overclocking, effectively making your processor a "downgrade" when it comes to playing games. Shouldn't be too noticeable thought, with the increase in graphics capability. As for the PSU, if you have the required connections I think it will be fine powering two 7950s (including Ghz editions).

lyndonguitar · Mar 9, 2013, 01:47 PM

okay thanks for the suggestion guys, guess i have to pick a Z77 Mobo

BarbaricSoul · Mar 9, 2013, 01:51 PM

Honestly, it's a waste of money to "upgrade" from a 2600k to a 3770k. The only difference you will notice will probably be higher temps with the 3770k. The 3770k is only about 10% faster than your current 2600k clock for clock, and the 2600k "should" have a lower running temperature, thus meaning it can OC higher, which would make it faster than the 3770k.

Keep your current motherboard and CPU(unless you can sell them for atleast 80% of what you paid for them) and upgrade your video card to a 7950 or better.

Chummmleee · Mar 10, 2013, 05:42 AM

A 750w would probably do you a little better & i have the z77 mobo it's a great pick trust me

Jstn7477 · Mar 10, 2013, 06:46 AM

I question your willingness to upgrade from a SB platform with Haswell a few months away (unless it's delayed). Getting a 7950 would probably be good though since AMD doesn't seem to have any new, beefier chips coming out soon. Had you wanted to upgrade maybe 6 months ago, I would've felt differently.

PopcornMachine · Mar 10, 2013, 07:24 AM

Your 2600K at 4.5 GHz is fine. I know it's fun to build a new system, but not needed here.

Like said above, just look into getting the 7950 or a card in that range. As for crossfire, I don't know right now. Single cards are getting pretty powerful. Better to spend less on one card if you can.

Pehla · Mar 10, 2013, 09:12 AM

i would choose 8gb 2133mhz memory over 16 gb 1600mhz!!if ur gaming u need faster memory..,and if u by 8gb 2133mzh now u can add a nother 8bg in future..,beter then to change all 16 gb when the time comes!!

lyndonguitar · Mar 10, 2013, 05:20 PM

okay thanks guys, guess i should just buy a new card(maybe 7950) and a PSU

also saves me the hassle of a full reformat and reinstalling as well(as you can see on my HDDs, i have a lot of stuff)

MT Alex · Mar 10, 2013, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyndonguitar

okay thanks guys, guess i should just buy a new card(maybe 7950) and a PSU

also saves me the hassle of a full reformat and reinstalling as well(as you can see on my HDDs, i have a lot of stuff)

That seems like the best plan and a real bang for your buck. I hope things work out well for you.

Mar 9, 2013, 05:02 AM	#1
lyndonguitar I play games Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,254 (1.09/day) Thanks: 264 Thanked 262 Times in 182 Posts System Specs	New build worth it? I am building this rig CPU: Intel Core i7 3770K Unlocked GPU: Power Color HD 7950 3gb/384bit ddr5 RAM: Corsair Vengeance (Dual) 2x8gb ddr3 1600 CL10 MOBO: lga1155 Asus P8H77 M PRO CASING: Cooler Master Storm Trooper COOLER: Corsair H100i Hydro Series CPU Cooler PSU: Corsair HX 650watts (HX650), Modular hdd/ssd: OCZ Vertex 4 128gb sata 3 Is this a good upgrade compared to my current rig??? (the i7 one) I will be adding my three monitors, and the HDDs from that rig. How much performance increase would I get? also, I will sell my current rig plus some other old items to make up for the price, and will only be really spending for around $250 to "upgrade" to that rig. EDIT: can that PSU handle dual 7950s? I am planning to buy another one if I get enough money __________________ Steam - lyndonguitar Origin - lyndonguitar Battlefield 3 Profile Battle.net - lyndonguitar#1663 Diablo III Profile Guild Wars 2 - lyndonguitar.6947

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Mar 9, 2013, 07:55 AM	#3
LDNL Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Finland Posts: 430 (0.51/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 104 Times in 81 Posts System Specs	SLI and Crossfire are never worth the money so just swap the graphics card and get one powerful card. Also add a ssd to the current rig. Everything else isnt worth it. __________________ “I flashed a 4650 bios (just to try it) in my 5570..” -alonan100 Last edited by LDNL; Mar 9, 2013 at 08:02 AM.

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Mar 9, 2013, 09:01 AM	#5
Jetster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,880 (2.35/day) Thanks: 941 Thanked 866 Times in 633 Posts System Specs	Keep your current MB and CPU. Buy a SSD and two 7970. Or get a Z77 board

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Mar 9, 2013, 12:38 PM	#11
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Mar 9, 2013, 01:47 PM	#12
lyndonguitar I play games Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,254 (1.09/day) Thanks: 264 Thanked 262 Times in 182 Posts System Specs	okay thanks for the suggestion guys, guess i have to pick a Z77 Mobo __________________ Steam - lyndonguitar Origin - lyndonguitar Battlefield 3 Profile Battle.net - lyndonguitar#1663 Diablo III Profile Guild Wars 2 - lyndonguitar.6947

Mar 9, 2013, 01:51 PM	#13
BarbaricSoul Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southeastern Virginia Posts: 3,738 (1.95/day) Thanks: 370 Thanked 1,084 Times in 799 Posts System Specs	Honestly, it's a waste of money to "upgrade" from a 2600k to a 3770k. The only difference you will notice will probably be higher temps with the 3770k. The 3770k is only about 10% faster than your current 2600k clock for clock, and the 2600k "should" have a lower running temperature, thus meaning it can OC higher, which would make it faster than the 3770k. Keep your current motherboard and CPU(unless you can sell them for atleast 80% of what you paid for them) and upgrade your video card to a 7950 or better. __________________ “Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.” “Amd....definitely a blond female.....not much on the cpu side, but always strutting about showing off her gpus......wow that was bad. I apologize.” -ensabrenoir Last edited by BarbaricSoul; Mar 9, 2013 at 01:58 PM.

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Mar 10, 2013, 05:42 AM	#14
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Mar 10, 2013, 06:46 AM	#15
Jstn7477 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sarasota, Florida, USA Posts: 3,140 (2.30/day) Thanks: 388 Thanked 1,193 Times in 805 Posts System Specs	I question your willingness to upgrade from a SB platform with Haswell a few months away (unless it's delayed). Getting a 7950 would probably be good though since AMD doesn't seem to have any new, beefier chips coming out soon. Had you wanted to upgrade maybe 6 months ago, I would've felt differently. __________________ Intel Crunchers (27 threads): 2x 3770K 4.3G (14t), 2600K 4G (7t), X3210 (3t), P-M 735A, P4 HT 3G AMD Crunchers (11 cores):1100T 3.6G (3t), 1045T 3.4G (2t), X3 8550 2.5G, X2 4200+, T64 ML-37 AMD Folders (6272 GCN cores): 2x 7950 1125/1475, 7970 1150/1650, 7770 1100/1200 NV Folders (2336 GF10x + 1344 GK104 cores):GTX 470 & 465 720/1715, 4x 460 768MB 825/2000, GTS 450, 660Ti 1228/6000 HEATWARE

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Mar 10, 2013, 07:24 AM	#16
PopcornMachine Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Los Angeles/Orange County CA Posts: 1,125 (0.82/day) Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 372 Times in 302 Posts System Specs	Your 2600K at 4.5 GHz is fine. I know it's fun to build a new system, but not needed here. Like said above, just look into getting the 7950 or a card in that range. As for crossfire, I don't know right now. Single cards are getting pretty powerful. Better to spend less on one card if you can.

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Mar 10, 2013, 09:12 AM	#17
Pehla Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: brčko dc/bosnia and herzegovina Posts: 241 (0.57/day) Thanks: 90 Thanked 61 Times in 47 Posts System Specs	i would choose 8gb 2133mhz memory over 16 gb 1600mhz!!if ur gaming u need faster memory..,and if u by 8gb 2133mzh now u can add a nother 8bg in future..,beter then to change all 16 gb when the time comes!!

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Mar 10, 2013, 05:20 PM	#18
lyndonguitar I play games Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,254 (1.09/day) Thanks: 264 Thanked 262 Times in 182 Posts System Specs	okay thanks guys, guess i should just buy a new card(maybe 7950) and a PSU also saves me the hassle of a full reformat and reinstalling as well(as you can see on my HDDs, i have a lot of stuff) __________________ Steam - lyndonguitar Origin - lyndonguitar Battlefield 3 Profile Battle.net - lyndonguitar#1663 Diablo III Profile Guild Wars 2 - lyndonguitar.6947

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