My Beast PC has become SUPER slow. Help

jonathan1107 · Feb 12, 2013, 03:22 PM

Hi, Look @ my specs, I have a very good PC. It's usually Very fast and has very low delays whenever I do stuff with it...

Lately it started having delays. I open windows, or programs, and there's a 3-4 seconds delay (which usually is 0.2 seconds delay lol)

I open stuff like firefox and want to type and text appears seconds after... very frustrating. I did a FULL scan with Microsoft Security Essentials, and it found nothing. My last windows 7 re-install must be like 7 or 8 months old so don't think that's the problem (although it always helps to re-install windows 7)

I'm thinking it could be my hard drives that need a defrag or the SSD that might be getting slow... but again, I suspect they're not the problem... The SSD is prob 2 years old tops, and the degrag seems needed, but nothing urgent...

I'm lookin for a program that fixes everything at once (something that checks the Registry, viruses, adware, cleaning...)

any tips?

jonathan1107 · Feb 12, 2013, 03:23 PM

oh and btw, my computer tends to be slow and delayed like this for like 15 mins after I logged in... it tends to get back to its normal speed after 15 mins... just weird...

Random Murderer · Feb 12, 2013, 03:30 PM

For registry and general Windows cleaning, I suggest CCleaner.
Don't defrag your SSD, it is not needed and many sources will tell you it does more harm than good.
As far as anti-virus goes, that's really a crap shoot. There are a lot of good, free programs out there and everyone has their own preferences.

WhiteLotus · Feb 12, 2013, 03:32 PM

First, what's your start up program list like? Is there anything there that doesn't have to be started up when you hit the power button? It does sound like you are over loading the computer with programs causing the whole thing to grind to a halt.

Second, are you sure that you have the specified RAM in there? Is it all showing up?

Thirdly, do a hard drive test. HD Tune or something like that, will show you if the drives are still performing correctly

Fourthly (?LOL?) When was the last time you formatted and reinstalled Windows? Could be that you just need to clean everything out and start a fresh.

Fithly (Does that even exist as a word?!) Put your CPU back to stock, OC CPU can be finicky things if they start to go bad.

A list to think about if you haven't already.

Bo$$ · Feb 12, 2013, 04:41 PM

MSE can't be trusted, Use a proper antivirus, eg avast or AVG and scan with malwarebytes and TDSS killer

WhiteLotus · Feb 12, 2013, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo$$

MSE can't be trusted, Use a proper antivirus, eg avast or AVG and scan with malwarebytes and TDSS killer

MSE is just fine.

lyndonguitar · Feb 12, 2013, 04:43 PM

anything "out of the norm" that you've done to maybe cause the slowdown? I suspect HDD

brandonwh64 · Feb 12, 2013, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo$$

MSE can't be trusted, Use a proper antivirus, eg avast or AVG and scan with malwarebytes and TDSS killer

UH OH!!!

Don't let mailman catch you talking like that!

Fourstaff · Feb 12, 2013, 04:54 PM

Plenty of reasons, you should start off with the most common ones (clean registry, clean startup, check hdd full, etc). Report if you still have problems.

Phusius · Feb 12, 2013, 05:00 PM

malware may also be a cause, i recommend kasperky 2013 trial from their official website, it finds malware that malwarebytes and MSE do not find. i know this because i had the same issue a few weeks ago, massive slow downs.

MSE said everything was ok, so i tried kaspersky trial, and boom malware found.

HD64G · Feb 12, 2013, 05:11 PM

I had some slowdowns recently in my SSD OS and I simply ran the check and fix disk utility from windows. And the problem just went away!

TRWOV · Feb 12, 2013, 05:15 PM

If you open the task manager after turning the PC on, do you see an application gouging up resources? I would look into that first.

CStylen · Feb 12, 2013, 05:41 PM

Maybe I have the same problem, but it started with the newer nvidia gpu drivers. Once I boot, I have to immediately restart then login or else it's horribly laggy.

Bo$$ · Feb 12, 2013, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteLotus

MSE is just fine.

For rootkit detection i've found it inadequate, however for general usage it's perfectly fine

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

UH OH!!!

Don't let mailman catch you talking like that!

http://img.techpowerup.org/130212/Capture089841.jpg

I've always defended MSE, first time i've seen others say something like this!! I've been using it fine for about 5 months...

All im saying is other tools are available for a clean virus removal

jonathan1107 · Feb 12, 2013, 06:09 PM

ok guys, thanks for the various tips, I'm gonna start trying them 1 by 1, will get back 2 you soon

drdeathx · Feb 12, 2013, 06:11 PM

Stay off the animal porn sites...

MxPhenom 216 · Feb 12, 2013, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random Murderer

For registry and general Windows cleaning, I suggest CCleaner.
Don't defrag your SSD, it is not needed and many sources will tell you it does more harm than good.
As far as anti-virus goes, that's really a crap shoot. There are a lot of good, free programs out there and everyone has their own preferences.

Its because data thats stored on an SSD isn't fragmented, so defrag won't do anything anyways, other then reduce its life because (defragging writes data to the drives throughout the process) ---- Dont quote me on that though.

Random Murderer · Feb 12, 2013, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx

Stay off the animal porn sites...

So you do have a sense of humor!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

Its because data thats stored on an SSD isn't fragmented, so defrag won't do anything anyways, other then reduce its life because (defragging writes data to the drives throughout the process) ---- Dont quote me on that though.

It shortens the lifespan of the drive by using up the finite number of read and write cycles one can perform. That's the short of it.
I wasn't going to go into details, he simply needs to know not to do it.
Cheers to all repliers, now we play the waiting game and see what, if anything, helps him.

jonathan1107 · Feb 14, 2013, 12:37 PM

alright guys, I took off some items that were in the Windows Startup list (msconfig) and it looks like I'm back on track. Must have been a program I installed recently or something ... not sure yet...

WhiteLotus · Feb 14, 2013, 12:43 PM

Glad to see that you tried the idea. Keep an eye on it, see if you can install the programs one at a time, see which one bogs you down most.

fasteddy2020 · Feb 19, 2013, 03:49 PM

Run a scan with Hitman Pro. It is free for 30 days. It might find something other scans have missed. I use it before MBAM.

TheMailMan78 · Feb 19, 2013, 03:56 PM

MSE+Malwarebytes is perfectly fine if you are not an idiot. If you are an idiot I suggest you disconnect from the internet as nothing will save you.

IF you do get hit by something nasty (which can only happen if you install it) then download and run Kapersky Rescue Disk 10.

de.das.dude · Feb 19, 2013, 04:04 PM

probably there are a lot of start up services running.

goto run (windows key + R) ->type msconfig-> startup tab -> uncheck all the unimportant ones that you do not recognise (etc adobe has a bucnch of crap there)

then goto services tab, check hide all microsoft services, then uncheck all the services that you dont need.

jonathan1107 · Feb 22, 2013, 01:51 AM

yeah, I officially solved my problem. I don't know which "startup" item was causing the major slowdown. But whatever I did, it worked.

thanks for all the input. Really appreciate it

Feb 12, 2013, 03:22 PM	#1
jonathan1107 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 797 (0.91/day) Thanks: 102 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts System Specs	My Beast PC has become SUPER slow. Help Hi, Look @ my specs, I have a very good PC. It's usually Very fast and has very low delays whenever I do stuff with it... Lately it started having delays. I open windows, or programs, and there's a 3-4 seconds delay (which usually is 0.2 seconds delay lol) I open stuff like firefox and want to type and text appears seconds after... very frustrating. I did a FULL scan with Microsoft Security Essentials, and it found nothing. My last windows 7 re-install must be like 7 or 8 months old so don't think that's the problem (although it always helps to re-install windows 7) I'm thinking it could be my hard drives that need a defrag or the SSD that might be getting slow... but again, I suspect they're not the problem... The SSD is prob 2 years old tops, and the degrag seems needed, but nothing urgent... I'm lookin for a program that fixes everything at once (something that checks the Registry, viruses, adware, cleaning...) any tips?

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Feb 12, 2013, 03:30 PM	#3
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Feb 12, 2013, 03:23 PM	#2
jonathan1107 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 797 (0.91/day) Thanks: 102 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts System Specs	oh and btw, my computer tends to be slow and delayed like this for like 15 mins after I logged in... it tends to get back to its normal speed after 15 mins... just weird...

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WhiteLotus Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 4,809 (2.26/day) Thanks: 531 Thanked 856 Times in 682 Posts System Specs	First, what's your start up program list like? Is there anything there that doesn't have to be started up when you hit the power button? It does sound like you are over loading the computer with programs causing the whole thing to grind to a halt. Second, are you sure that you have the specified RAM in there? Is it all showing up? Thirdly, do a hard drive test. HD Tune or something like that, will show you if the drives are still performing correctly Fourthly (?LOL?) When was the last time you formatted and reinstalled Windows? Could be that you just need to clean everything out and start a fresh. Fithly (Does that even exist as a word?!) Put your CPU back to stock, OC CPU can be finicky things if they start to go bad. A list to think about if you haven't already. __________________ “Sorry but I cannot respond now, I am running a full virus scan on the internet.” -brandonwh64

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Feb 12, 2013, 04:54 PM	#9
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Feb 12, 2013, 05:00 PM	#10
Phusius Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,262 (2.96/day) Thanks: 621 Thanked 380 Times in 208 Posts System Specs	malware may also be a cause, i recommend kasperky 2013 trial from their official website, it finds malware that malwarebytes and MSE do not find. i know this because i had the same issue a few weeks ago, massive slow downs. MSE said everything was ok, so i tried kaspersky trial, and boom malware found.

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Feb 12, 2013, 06:09 PM	#15
jonathan1107 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 797 (0.91/day) Thanks: 102 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts System Specs	ok guys, thanks for the various tips, I'm gonna start trying them 1 by 1, will get back 2 you soon

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Feb 14, 2013, 12:37 PM	#19
jonathan1107 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 797 (0.91/day) Thanks: 102 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts System Specs	alright guys, I took off some items that were in the Windows Startup list (msconfig) and it looks like I'm back on track. Must have been a program I installed recently or something ... not sure yet...

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Feb 19, 2013, 03:49 PM	#21
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