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Old Oct 14, 2012, 09:24 AM   #26
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I should have said i need compilers for the above mentioned languages that work on ubuntu
and need oracle for running queries.
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As it was noted, Turbo C++ and TASM are NOT languages. Those are IDEs.

But then, I can see You need compilers for C, C++ and ASM (those are languages).
GCC with YASM should be all You need.
You can install them all with:

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sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc gcc-doc g++ yasm
If You need any help running those compilers, tell us

P.S. It would be nice if this forum would support attaching shell scripts
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thanks vinska , i would try them and surely report them
please tell for cobol and oracle
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You can get a free version of Oracle called Oracle Database XE, but it only works on Linux x64 and only allows 1 database per machine that it is installed on, so I do not know if it will meet the requirements of your school.
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1)MS office type software, which can run all MS office files on ubuntu.
2)UNIX (i know they can be run from comand prompt directly) but still my LAB administrator asked.
3) ORACLE
4) TURBO C(for C and C++ coding)
5)COBOL

please help me find software that fulfill these things
thanks in advance.
  1. LibreOffice (not OpenOffice because Oracle is the devil)
  2. Ctrl + Alt + F1 (or plain ol' terminal)
  3. Migrate to MySQL or PostgreSQL
  4. Code::Blocks (As others have said, Turbo C is an IDE.. and ancient)
  5. http://www.opencobol.org/ (First thing to come up in Google)

If you absolutely, without a doubt, NEED to use Turbo C, try running it under WINE. Code::Blocks has worked just fine for me. I have a Turbo C++ book sitting on my shelf. I think the code should be compatible, it's just how it's interpreted.

The idea of GNU/GPL is that software shouldn't just be free, it should be open. "Free as in free beer." Anything you can "apt-get install" will not cost anything.

Also, Core 2 Duos aren't slow. I'm willing to bet they'd be plenty fast if you wiped them and reinstalled Windows, not that I don't like Linux.

Remember that Linux on the desktop is only user friendly when you're doing things that Ubuntu has preconfigured for you. Anything after that is going to be a long day of "sudo chmod 755" this and "./configure; make; make install" that. (..and the occasional "sudo rm -rf /" when you hate everything.)
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  1. http://www.opencobol.org/ (First thing to come up in Google)
*sigh* why are You using google for that...
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mafia97, You can get a COBOL compiler with this:

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sudo apt-get install open-cobol
Sorry that I forgot about this one when I wrote my previous post.

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Remember that Linux on the desktop is only user friendly when you're doing things that Ubuntu has preconfigured for you. Anything after that is going to be a long day of "sudo chmod 755" this and "./configure; make; make install" that. (..and the occasional "sudo rm -rf /" when you hate everything.)
Don't write such things. That will only give FUD for most non-veterans. And writing about "sudo rm -rf /", without explaining it's just a joke, is just plain wrong. As someone might just try to run it.
NOTE: DON'T run "sudo rm -rf /". It DELETES Your whole filesystem. i.e. it WIPES your HDDs!!! So DON'T do it!!!
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NOTE: DON'T run "sudo rm -rf /". It DELETES Your whole filesystem. i.e. it WIPES your HDDs!!! So DON'T do it!!!
I also wouldn't recommend running
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*sigh* why are You using google for that...
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mafia97, You can get a COBOL compiler with this:

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sudo apt-get install open-cobol
Sorry that I forgot about this one when I wrote my previous post.



Don't write such things. That will only give FUD for most non-veterans. And writing about "sudo rm -rf /", without explaining it's just a joke, is just plain wrong. As someone might just try to run it.
NOTE: DON'T run "sudo rm -rf /". It DELETES Your whole filesystem. i.e. it WIPES your HDDs!!! So DON'T do it!!!
Vinska and others thanks alot guys, i would get access to college computers i think day after tomorrow , i will try these things and would report back to you guys
thanks alot
you guys are amazing
well i knew rm * -f command , as i am a mischievous UNIX student
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well i knew rm * -f command , as i am a mischievous UNIX student
You can be super mischievous and learn all there is to learn about rm.
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man rm
It will give you...
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RM(1)                                                                                                        User Commands                                                                                                        RM(1)

NAME
       rm - remove files or directories

SYNOPSIS
       rm [OPTION]... FILE...

DESCRIPTION
       This manual page documents the GNU version of rm.  rm removes each specified file.  By default, it does not remove directories.

       If the -I or --interactive=once option is given, and there are more than three files or the -r, -R, or --recursive are given, then rm prompts the user for whether to proceed with the entire operation.  If the response is not
       affirmative, the entire command is aborted.

       Otherwise, if a file is unwritable, standard input is a terminal, and the -f or --force option is not given, or the -i or --interactive=always option is given, rm prompts the user for whether to  remove  the  file.   If  the
       response is not affirmative, the file is skipped.

OPTIONS
       Remove (unlink) the FILE(s).

       -f, --force
              ignore nonexistent files, never prompt

       -i     prompt before every removal

       -I     prompt once before removing more than three files, or when removing recursively.  Less intrusive than -i, while still giving protection against most mistakes

       --interactive[=WHEN]
              prompt according to WHEN: never, once (-I), or always (-i).  Without WHEN, prompt always

       --one-file-system
              when removing a hierarchy recursively, skip any directory that is on a file system different from that of the corresponding command line argument

       --no-preserve-root
              do not treat `/' specially

       --preserve-root
              do not remove `/' (default)

       -r, -R, --recursive
              remove directories and their contents recursively

       -v, --verbose
              explain what is being done

       --help display this help and exit

       --version
              output version information and exit

       By default, rm does not remove directories.  Use the --recursive (-r or -R) option to remove each listed directory, too, along with all of its contents.

       To remove a file whose name starts with a `-', for example `-foo', use one of these commands:

              rm -- -foo

              rm ./-foo

       Note that if you use rm to remove a file, it might be possible to recover some of its contents, given sufficient expertise and/or time.  For greater assurance that the contents are truly unrecoverable, consider using shred.

AUTHOR
       Written by Paul Rubin, David MacKenzie, Richard M. Stallman, and Jim Meyering.
REPORTING BUGS
       Report rm bugs to bug-coreutils@gnu.org
       GNU coreutils home page: <http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/>
       General help using GNU software: <http://www.gnu.org/gethelp/>
       Report rm translation bugs to <http://translationproject.org/team/>

COPYRIGHT
       Copyright ÂĐ 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc.  License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>.
       This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.  There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

SEE ALSO
       unlink(1), unlink(2), chattr(1), shred(1)

       The full documentation for rm is maintained as a Texinfo manual.  If the info and rm programs are properly installed at your site, the command

              info coreutils 'rm invocation'

       should give you access to the complete manual.

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[LIST=1][*]Migrate to MySQL or PostgreSQL
if oracle is the devil then you should not recommend mysql at all.
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Sorry guys,
there is a bad news
The computer department head denied ubuntu said it is tedious to work with
really sorry that your efforts went waste.
but atleast i learned something
thanks for that
mod please close the thread
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The computer department head denied ubuntu said it is tedious to work with
Too bad...
But it's a little odd - one could say Ubuntu is the epitome of "ease of work" these days. Hmmm....
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The computer department head denied ubuntu said it is tedious to work with
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Maybe they didn't used it much, Ubuntu (I prefer Xubuntu) is a very nice piece of OS and is very easy. I use it on my netbook along Windows.
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YA i also think they dont use it much
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Sorry guys,
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The computer department head denied ubuntu said it is tedious to work with
really sorry that your efforts went waste.
but atleast i learned something
thanks for that
mod please close the thread
A: You can close your own threads.

B: A computer science department said that Ubuntu is too hard to use?! Might want to change schools.
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Thanks, I did not know I can close threads I started. No mod inrtervention needed.
@ mafia97: the option is under "thread tools".

I think that it is more complicated in reality, when it comes to IT departments and Linux. Employees are simply not in a position to "learn Linux" because they must "function" at high level immediately when doing a roll-out of Lionux systems.
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I think that it is more complicated in reality, when it comes to IT departments and Linux. Employees are simply not in a position to "learn Linux" because they must "function" at high level immediately when doing a roll-out of Lionux systems.
You find time for things that are important. I question the competence of system admins who don't think that linux is worth knowing, at least to some reasonable level. I'm willing to bet you that a system admin who doesn't think Linux worth knowing and works with Windows machines doesn't know how to use PowerShell. The most powerful tools are the ones you have to learn if you want to truly good at what you do. It's not a good sign when you need to do something fast and you're browsing through an interface and attempting to "find" what you have to do.

Also linux is a great tool in education for students who are going into computer science or IT. It would be a shame not to use it.
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You find time for things that are important. I question the competence of system admins who don't think that linux is worth knowing, at least to some reasonable level. I'm willing to bet you that a system admin who doesn't think Linux worth knowing and works with Windows machines doesn't know how to use PowerShell. The most powerful tools are the ones you have to learn if you want to truly good at what you do. It's not a good sign when you need to do something fast and you're browsing through an interface and attempting to "find" what you have to do.

Also linux is a great tool in education for students who are going into computer science or IT. It would be a shame not to use it.
I am very sad to say the tech knowledge in India is very dissapointing, people just want to get their job done, they dont want to know how it is done or what happens when you do it other way round.
people just have bare minimum knowledge to run computers(teachers in most cases have even less), recently a well know company came to give seminar in our college, and you wont believe what the representative said, she said HULk is green because the green color in RGB while redering hulk was turened off by mistake, red and blue resulted in gree, thats why hulk is green.I thought of killing myself at that moment.
Though the tech knowledge is bad, teacher know how to teach their subject and can answer any question in syllabus, plus my college is best in the region, so i wouldnt change it
sorry guys for the rant. CLOSING THREAD NOW
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i think you should leave the thread open. lots of good discussion here. this sub forum always has the best discussion.
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well i couldnt find thread closing button, so it is open for now :P.
anyways i want to thanks you guys for all the help
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