How do I get this down? - X58/i7 930 temps

freaksavior · Dec 8, 2012, 03:49 AM

The machine is stable but it seems rather warm to me. My AC/heater (whatever you call it for Texas) is set to 72f. My room is probably a hair above or below since my fan is usually spinning.

So there ya go.

System specs still up to date in the left

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Fatal · Dec 8, 2012, 04:04 AM

Is that the lowest you can get your Vcore and QPI voltage seems high for such a light overclock. I would also switch to an odd multiplier.

freaksavior · Dec 8, 2012, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatal

Is that the lowest you can get your Vcore and QPI voltage seems high for such a light overclock. I would also switch to an odd multiplier.

I can certainly try!

I'll get back with ya then.

Edit 1 )

Dropped vcore and gpi

vcore by .05 and the qpi by .125. Temps remains same. low 60 when idle and high 90's when load.

Fatal · Dec 8, 2012, 04:21 AM

Try to keep these as close as possible try
CPU Vcore 1.28-1.33
CPU QPI PLL Vcore 1.28-1.33

should be able to keep them the same, 1.40 QPI is pretty high and will contribute to heat. Should put all other voltages to auto. The other voltages seems high as well CPU Pll looks good if you can lower try that some have to raise to about 1.86. This is just from what I see on the screen shot I am sure you should be able to lower the voltages though for 3.8.

Edit: Might be time to remount the cooler and apply new paste or get a better one. Dusting does wonders for temps also.

[Ion] · Dec 8, 2012, 04:23 AM

That's wicked hot. I'd try reseating the cooler and making sure that it's getting good airflow. How hot is the heatsink itself? Ideally, the fins should be barely warm. With my i7-920 @ 3.83GHz I'm at about 70C full load on an Antec H2O-620.

freaksavior · Dec 8, 2012, 04:50 AM

Just pulled voltages from the board directly.

They are as following

vcore: 1.345V
DIMM: 1.67V
VTT: 1.457V
IOH: 1.305V
CPU - PLL: 1.95V
QPI - PLL 1.26V
IOH - IO: 1.755
ICH - QO: 1755
ICH - 1.216V

Temps are high 50's low 60s idle and high 80s load.

hat · Dec 8, 2012, 09:22 AM

My i7 920 only needs 1.175v to get to 3.8GHz... keep lowering that vcore. At this voltage I get roughly 65c under 100% WCG load with a Corsair h70, roughly 70f room temp.

Not sure why your VTT voltage is so high either. I use my board's standard of 1.2v (can't go any lower actually) and I'm running 1600mhz ram in triple channel.

freaksavior · Dec 9, 2012, 03:19 AM

I think it's lying.... I just set it to default and temps show 51c. No freakin' way...

Fatal · Dec 9, 2012, 06:40 PM

Did you remount the cpu cooler like Ion said? Thats what it sounds like if your temps are that bad at default or your board is overvolting like mad.

BUCK NASTY · Dec 9, 2012, 07:07 PM

If your running the Mugen II on that board, something is wrong. What fan speed is the CPU cooler running?

hat · Dec 9, 2012, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by freaksavior

I think it's lying.... I just set it to default and temps show 51c. No freakin' way...

51c idle? Mine is idling at 44c with all the power saving stuff on. It's not dropping the voltage any, but it is downclocking it to 2.4GHz. Bear in mind this is with a lapped h70, and my CPU is lapped as well.

Naito · Dec 9, 2012, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freaksavior

CPU - PLL: 1.95V

Try lowering this. I have found this can sometimes lead to higher temperatures with these CPUs.

From Intel datasheet:
Minimum - 1.71v
Typical - 1.8v
Maximum - 1.89v

MxPhenom 216 · Dec 9, 2012, 11:09 PM

CPU PLL should stay at 1.8 maybe bump it to 1.81. Keep dropping the vcore till it wont boot, then bring it back up to the last known good voltage and check temps and stability at that point.

freaksavior · Dec 10, 2012, 03:57 AM

I set it back to stock so that woulnd't be the issue. I meant to pickup some thermal paste at frys while I was out but I forgot... I'll most likely rebuild the machine.

I'll post back in a day or two and let y'all know.

Naito · Dec 10, 2012, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

CPU PLL should stay at 1.8 maybe bump it to 1.81

Yeah. If this was set automatically in BIOS during OC, usually it is outside specifications. My mate has a rig with an Xeon W3580 (similar to i7-975) and that was happy running at 1.78v on CPU PLL at 3.9GHz to 4.0GHz.

cadaveca · Dec 10, 2012, 03:25 PM

try to lower CPU PLL to 1.65V or so? I agree on that one can use some tweaking, maybe, if you are lucky.

Dec 8, 2012, 03:49 AM	#1
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Fatal Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Golden, Colorado Posts: 575 (0.36/day) Thanks: 222 Thanked 112 Times in 96 Posts System Specs	Try to keep these as close as possible try CPU Vcore 1.28-1.33 CPU QPI PLL Vcore 1.28-1.33 should be able to keep them the same, 1.40 QPI is pretty high and will contribute to heat. Should put all other voltages to auto. The other voltages seems high as well CPU Pll looks good if you can lower try that some have to raise to about 1.86. This is just from what I see on the screen shot I am sure you should be able to lower the voltages though for 3.8. Edit: Might be time to remount the cooler and apply new paste or get a better one. Dusting does wonders for temps also. __________________ Last edited by Fatal; Dec 8, 2012 at 04:23 AM. Reason: added more info

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