$500 budget gaming build

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by drdeathx

Can you F'in read. I am going to pit them up against each other later.

Well you posted faster than I manage to come up with my replies so ...

Also, I can feel tempers are rising from various participants. Any further there will be infractions

[brandonwh64]

Well I am done in this thread. camoxiong hopefully has enough info that he needs to pick whatever build suits him the best. It goes to show that DrDipshit can go to great lengths to argue something many other people have proved positive.

[drdeathx]

Trinity takes over i3's with multi threading when I reviewed the A10-5800K.

As mentioned, I will enjoy pitting the 3220 against the A10-5800K. remember, the 2120 is NOT the 3220K. In real world benchmarks, the A10-5800K did very good against the i3 3220 when I tested both.....

[newtekie1]

Regardless of if the A10 can outperform the i3 at stock, I'd always take the A10 because it overclocks like mad compared to the i3. Actually, I'd go with the A8-5600K since it is about $20 cheaper than the A10, but overclocks pretty much just as well. Both will do ~4.4GHz on the stock cooler with little to no voltage bump. And since the OP said he was using a S1283, he could bump the voltage and probably hit 4.8GHz with ease. Even if the i3 beats the Trinity setup at stock, the Trinity will win when you consider overclocking.

[drdeathx]

Originally Posted by newtekie1

Regardless of if the A10 can outperform the i3 at stock, I'd always take the A10 because it overclocks like mad compared to the i3. Actually, I'd go with the A8-5600K since it is about $20 cheaper than the A10, but overclocks pretty much just as well. Both will do ~4.4GHz on the stock cooler with little to no voltage bump. And since the OP said he was using a S1834, he could bump the voltage and probably hit 4.8GHz with ease. Even if the i3 beats the Trinity setup at stock, the Trinity will win when you consider overclocking.

Excellent point on the $20 savings plus motherboards are cheaper too. OP can cut the cost down more and have a better cost per performance solution. I got 5GHz out of A10-5800K

[camoxiong]

dont know which one to pick now

[lyndonguitar]

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...Review/1646/19

AMD is better in gaming without discrete graphics card(its faster than GT 440)

Intel is faster in general processing performance. so pair any discrete card higher than GT 440(in both cpus) and Intel is your choice.

EDIT: by the way, this is the i3-3220, the a10 might actually be better than i3-2105. im not sure

EDIT2: indeed the a10 is better according to this site. http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i...-AMD-A10-5800K

EDIT3: based on what i've read i3-3220 > A10-5800K > i3-2xxx

[drdeathx]

Originally Posted by lyndonguitar

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...Review/1646/19

AMD is better in gaming without discrete graphics card(its faster than GT 440)

Intel is faster in general processing performance. so pair any discrete card higher than GT 440(in both cpus) and Intel is your choice.

EDIT: by the way, this is the i3-3220, the a10 might actually be better than i3-2105. im not sure

EDIT2: indeed the a10 is better according to this site. http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i...-AMD-A10-5800K

EDIT3: based on what i've read i3-3220 > A10-5800K > i3-2xxx

In everday benchmarks, A10-5800K trades blows with the i3 3220. The i3 2120 is not as good so A10-5300K is better all around...... IMO

A10-5800K traded blows with the 3220K, In PC Mark, excel, Photoshop, Cinebench, passmark, the A10-5800K won. It will beat the i3 2120 even more with more L2 Cache.

Either choice won't be bad but Trinity will do pretty damn good with multithreading with the new Piledriver cores and the new instruction set. If you want to hold tight, I could have a handful of real world and synthetic benchmarks done against the 3220 by Wed. evening. If you can't wait, I will still run them... Don't get me wrong, I am not an AMD fanboy. 2 of my main rigs are Intel 3770K and 3930K. I have the A10-5800K as a home theater and tested/reviewed it. I was pretty dam impressed for a $129 APU.

[camoxiong]

Originally Posted by drdeathx

In everday benchmarks, A10-5800K trades blows with the i3 3220. The i3 2120 is not as good so A10-5300K is better all around...... IMO

A10-5800K traded blows with the 3220K, In PC Mark, excel, Photoshop, Cinebench, passmark, the A10-5800K won. It will beat the i3 2120 even more with more L2 Cache.

Either choice won't be bad but Trinity will do pretty damn good with multithreading with the new Piledriver cores and the new instruction set. If you want to hold tight, I could have a handful of real world and synthetic benchmarks done against the 3220 by Wed. evening. If you can't wait, I will still run them... Don't get me wrong, I am not an AMD fanboy. 2 of my main rigs are Intel 3770K and 3930K. I have the A10-5800K as a home theater and tested/reviewed it. I was pretty dam impressed for a $129 APU.

I'm not in a hurry to build one yet, because my cousin haven't pay me yet. Thank you, I will wait for the benchmarks.

[Dent1]

Originally Posted by camoxiong

CPU - Intel Core i3-2105 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65...

A lot of people were talking about the A10-5800K. However, I would shoot for the Piledriver X6 FX 6300. Performs equivalent to the i3 Ivy Bridge in games, whilst demonishing it in everything else.

1. Costs the same as the i3 Ivy Bridge
2. Has better upgrade path than Intel's lineup
3. Performs virtually the same as the i3 Ivy Bridge in todays games
4. Will perform better than i3 Ivy Bridge in future games
5. Will demolinish the i3 virtually all non-gaming tasks
6. Overclocks further and easier

The FX 6300 is the sensible choice. IMO.

[HalfAHertz]

Have you considered the el-cheapo pentium G series based on Ivy? I recently tried the g2020 and as long as you pair it with dedicated graphics it should do you fine. it's like an i3 minus the HT. Still has the 3mb l3 cache.

Intel Pentium G2020 Ivy Bridge 2.9GHz LGA 1155 55W...

[d1nky]

gaming is his main aim so why not better gfx and cheaper cpu? (like me lol) p.s I had the 7770 for a couple weeks and returned it, it crawled through new 3dmark and 7950 breezes it, especially mild oc

[Jetster]

Ether one would be fine.

[camoxiong]

Originally Posted by HalfAHertz

Have you considered the el-cheapo pentium G series based on Ivy? I recently tried the g2020 and as long as you pair it with dedicated graphics it should do you fine. it's like an i3 minus the HT. Still has the 3mb l3 cache.

Intel Pentium G2020 Ivy Bridge 2.9GHz LGA 1155 55W...

will the Pentium G Series bottleneck a 7770 or a 7850?

[tokyoduong]

Originally Posted by camoxiong

will the Pentium G Series bottleneck a 7770 or a 7850?

7850 is much faster than 7770. 7850 can also OC better. 7850 have 256 bit memory vs 128 on 7770. The difference is huge especially if you want AA.

Yes Pentium will bottleneck on some games but not all.

Go for i3/5 3xxx if you got the funds, go with AMD 5600k/5800k if you want to OC + integrated GPU, go with FX 6xxx if you want no GPU and more processing power.

If you are satisfied with playing games on medium settings then just go with the 5800k, OC your RAM as high as you can along with your CPU and GPU. That'll save you the most money.

[camoxiong]

Originally Posted by tokyoduong

7850 is much faster than 7770. 7850 can also OC better. 7850 have 256 bit memory vs 128 on 7770. The difference is huge especially if you want AA.

Yes Pentium will bottleneck on some games but not all.

Go for i3/5 3xxx if you got the funds, go with AMD 5600k/5800k if you want to OC + integrated GPU, go with FX 6xxx if you want no GPU and more processing power.

If you are satisfied with playing games on medium settings then just go with the 5800k, OC your RAM as high as you can along with your CPU and GPU. That'll save you the most money.

I switch my mind to a amd phenom ii x4 965

[tokyoduong]

Originally Posted by camoxiong

I switch my mind to a amd phenom ii x4 965

Great CPU and should hit 4 ghz or more too
I think the only problem with the Phenom II that I encountered was it didn't run Star Craft 2 as good as Intel but was still very playable.

[Dent1]

Originally Posted by camoxiong

I switch my mind to a amd phenom ii x4 965

$30-$40 more gets you a newer architecture and two more cores (Piledriver FX 6300). Phenom II X4 965 isn't a move I'd recommend if your budget can stretch $30-40.

If you look hard enough, you could can even find the Phenom II X6 cheaper than the Phenom II X4 965 too.


AMD Phenom II X6 1055T $89.99
AMD Piledriver FX X6 6300 $129.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...952&CatId=4431
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...562&CatId=7339