Intel Responds to Phenom II X2 BE with Pentium E6500K

[btarunr]

With the 45 nm Phenom II AM3 architecture, AMD is able to offer two highly competitive mainstream dual-core processors: the Phenom II X2 (Callisto), and Athlon II X2 (Regor). The Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition chips not only serves as a notable sub-$100 choice for mainstream consumers, but also offers good value to overclockers with an unlocked bus multiplier, and with the right tools, the potential to unlock disabled physical cores. With its prime competitor from the blue camp being Pentium Dual-Core E5000 and E6000 series, Intel decided to up the stakes with a low-cost overclocker-friendly dual-core processor labeled Pentium Dual-Core E6500K, the company's first FSB multiplier-unlocked 45 nm dual-core chip.

Based on the 45 nm Wolfdale-2M core, the E6500K boasts of a default clock speed of 2.93 GHz (11.0 x 266 MHz). The bus multiplier is unlocked, leaving room to play with it. Placed in the Pentium E6000 series, the chip has a FSB frequency of 1066 MHz, compared to its E5000 cousins that sport 800 MHz FSB. Aided with a 2 MB L2 cache, the E6500K is expected to go head-on against competing AMD chips. Currently available in China for RMB 1299 (converts to $190) as part of bundle with Biostar T-Series TP45E motherboard, the E6500K is expected to retail soon for US $89. Incidentally, the "K" in E6500K refers to "black" in digital imaging jargon.



Source: Expreview

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

My new proc? or should i go 9550? or wait til 850 i7?

[Fitseries3]

$90 for a cpu that could likely be the best dualcore OCer ever?

[Zubasa]

Originally Posted by Fitseries3

$90 for a cpu that could likely be the best dualcore OCer ever?

Or grab a PII 550BE that can protentially unlock to a quad and also with unlock multi?

[Fitseries3]

nope. not me.

i dislike AMD sorry.

[Zubasa]

Interesting how someone can hate a company.
All they care is your cash anyways.

[mlee49]

Its not that he hates AMD, his experience with them has lead him to make his own choice.


Personally for $90 this chip could definitely impact quite a few MidRange builds. The E5200 was everyone's choice for a budget chip, well not any more!

[Fitseries3]

seriously...

unlocked multi on a 45nm wolfdale...

watch the F___ out

some serious OCing ensues

[selway89]

Hmm might be interested in this. Can't get my E4500 past 3.2GHz, wonder if I could get one of those higher. Don't really want to splash out on new board and memory, and dual core does me fine at the moment. At that price point I am very tempted for when it's available.

[Fitseries3]

i bet this chip does 6ghz easy with decent cooling.

[human_error]

Nice to see budget enthusiast chips from both camps - makes getting insane overclocks more affordable

[AltecV1]

i would still prefer the 550 Black Edition ! it might unlock extra cores and has more cache nice try intel but you fail

[Fitseries3]

AMD fails to OC as far as intel on reasonable cooling setups though.

[devguy]

Originally Posted by AltecV1

i would still prefer the 550 Black Edition ! it might unlock extra cores and has more cache nice try intel but you fail

I wouldn't say Intel fails...

On the contrary, this is good news all around. It shows that Intel is finally feeling some pressure from AMD after all these years. Thus, more and better choices for the consumer!

[Cheeseball]

Holy shit. If this was $90 and was released like... NOW. I'd sell my ASRock 780G/SB710 motherboard and 5000+ BE for this and a G45/P45.

[selway89]

I have a sneaky feeling this won't be available in the UK anytime soon and will have a price hike deffinatly looks like it will give the AMDs a run for their money!

[tastegw]

if your looking for performance and can afford a few extra bucks, i still think the E8400 is a better option.

[newtekie1]

Originally Posted by Zubasa

Or grab a PII 550BE that can protentially unlock to a quad and also with unlock multi?

I wouldn't gamble on unlocking. Despite what it seems like, it is rare to be sucessful. And even more rare to be sucessful and stable, especially on a chip with two of the cores disable. The chances of having a defective core are enormous.

Originally Posted by AltecV1

i would still prefer the 550 Black Edition ! it might unlock extra cores and has more cache nice try intel but you fail

The extra cache doesn't really help it. With the E6300 already nipping at the heels of the 550BE with a lower clock speed, this E6500K at stock should equal or surpass a 550BE, and out overclock it also. Seems like hardly a fail to me.

Originally Posted by devguy

I wouldn't say Intel fails...

On the contrary, this is good news all around. It shows that Intel is finally feeling some pressure from AMD after all these years. Thus, more and better choices for the consumer!

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\This/\/\/\/\/\/\ Competition = win for consumers.

I'm just happy to see Intel releasing unlocked chips at budget prices...not that they have really needed to...

[erocker]

Originally Posted by Fitseries3

i bet this chip does 6ghz easy with decent cooling.

It could very well do only 3.6ghz with decent cooling too. I guess it all depends on the chip itself as none are ever the same.

[btarunr]

Originally Posted by erocker

It could very well do only 3.6ghz with decent cooling too. I guess it all depends on the chip itself as none are ever the same.

E5000s already do 3.6 GHz with decent cooling. This chip could do ~4.5-ish GHz with the right tools. Cheap thrills.

[Darren]

The E6500 is a good idea from Intel however they have made a slight flaw in my opinion, the new CPU would have a bigger impact on socket 1366, despite the E6500s cheap price on socket 775 Intel are beating a dead horse, a lot of people with low end E-series will probably hit up to 3.5 GHz anyways. Even if the E6500 is able to reach 4 GHz on stock cooling will its performance benefit be any more beneficial than a E5200 at 3.7 GHz?, most probably not.

On socket 775 I could only see this chip benefiting people with pre-core 2 CPUs, for example upgrading from an existing Pentium D to the E6500 with the sole intention of overclocking to near 4 GHz, but for people with core 2s or for new builds this CPU offers very little.


Fitseries3, you dislike AMD or do you dislike AMD's SEO's bank balance, numerous luxury pent houses across the country, 4-5 super cars and a hot Latina wife.

All seriousness go for the bang for your buck, if AMD offers that go that route, if Intel offers than go that route.

[Fitseries3]

if you like AMD then fine.

i have had many AMDs in my time and i dont like them.

sorry this makes you guys feel like attacking me.

this E6500K will do very well IMHO.

its a 45nm wolfdale chip with an unlocked multi.

what about that doesnt sound like some great OCs will come from thsi cpu?

its kin to the e7XXX and e8XXX cpus that have hit upwards of 5-6ghz.

why so much doubt in this cpu?

amd ppl need to GTFO of this thread if they are going to come in here and flame.

i've had both intel and amd, ati and nvidia so dont talk about my favoritism if you yourself havent had both sides

[JrRacinFan]

Was looking at makin the switch out to the 550BE, but this will definitely sway my decision IF MSI can put cpu support for this in the bios. Me like!

[btarunr]

Originally Posted by Darren

The E6500 is a good idea from Intel however they have made a slight flaw in my opinion, the new CPU would have a bigger impact on socket 1366

Wolfdale is not possible on LGA-1366, it's not as like porting Prescott from s478 to LGA-775. LGA-1366 platform won't see a sub-$100 processor. Currently less than 1% of Intel's users use LGA-1366, so it wouldn't have made a bigger impact even if it was possible. The cheapest motherboard starts around the $160 mark.

Originally Posted by Darren

Fitseries3, you dislike AMD or do you dislike AMD's SEO's bank balance, numerous luxury pent houses across the country, 4-5 super cars and a hot Latina wife.

Do not get down to blatant flaming.

[Darren]

Originally Posted by Fitseries3

if you like AMD then fine.

i have had many AMDs in my time and i dont like them.

sorry this makes you guys feel like attacking me.

this E6500K will do very well IMHO.

its a 45nm wolfdale chip with an unlocked multi.

what about that doesnt sound like some great OCs will come from thsi cpu?

its kin to the e7XXX and e8XXX cpus that have hit upwards of 5-6ghz.

why so much doubt in this cpu?

amd ppl need to GTFO of this thread if they are going to come in here and flame.

Nobody is attacking you, they are attacking your narrow views, its your right to dislike AMD but you've offered no justifiable reason to dislike the company. For example if you said "I dislike AMD because they do not offer enough value for money" one could argue this to be correct and perhaps agree with you to a certain extent. But know one can/will agree with you if you offer no explanation.

I'm pretty natural, I've had AMD and Intel amongst other CPU manufactures in the past, I couldn't give a rats ass whether AMD or Intel is the favourite, I want cheap value for money, even those Intel are not offer value for money today in comparison to AMD I still respect Intel and I have no hate for the company, once they get the value for money together I'd be happy to jump ship to Intel.

Like I said, I like the E6500k, but I would love to see it on socket 1366, Intel already have many overclockable and respectable cheap CPUs on socket 775 already, let the dead socket die. At least if this was on socket 1366 money conscious people could buy it now, then upgrade to the i7 in a year when prices come down.

Edit:

btarunr, so saying that you dislike AMD or any other company without a "valid expanation", correct without an explanation period isn't flaming too?