Rig started running really slow! (More info inside)

Valenciente · Sep 2, 2009, 08:08 PM

Hiya folks.

So, I've had my rig for some time now, and yeah, it's not top-notch anymore, but it still shouldn't be this slow.

You can see my specs at the sidethingie.

Anyway; It started a while ago now, but today it was just crazy. At times my rig takes 5 seconds to get the pop-up window up when right-clicking a folder, and Firefox keeps going "Not Responding" when opening new tabs (or hanging when doing so for a couple of seconds).

Also, earlier I unpacked some compressed files, which normally is not a problem on my quadcore, however, it tooks around 20secs for my rig to just open up Firefox while WinRar was extracting.

This leads me to believe that something is wrong, though I do doubt that it's a virus, I tend to not have troubles with those (aKa, I'm running Kaspersky Internet Security).

I've been pondering at the idea of a full-system format (Except my backup HDD's), but would like to know some possible solutions before I do that.

Thanks ahead of time,
Valen.

95Viper · Sep 2, 2009, 08:37 PM

Still could be a virus or some sort of malware. Try these, they are free to run scans and clean.
http://www.superantispyware.com/
http://www.malwarebytes.org/
and you might want to try ccleaner to get rid of junk...http://www.ccleaner.com/
And, maybe defrag your hard drive:http://www.filehippo.com/download_oo_defrag/

Valenciente · Sep 2, 2009, 08:41 PM

Already have Malwarebytes, detects nothing.

Also have CCleaner, and the Uniblue registry program, if anyone knows that one.

I think I'll try defragging my HDD, see how it goes.

Thank you!

95Viper · Sep 2, 2009, 09:19 PM

You might want to try turning off indexing and see if that helps...check out this site, it has some great info.http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/supertweaks.htm

Metropolis · Sep 2, 2009, 09:23 PM

I wonder if the large file bug is still present with kaspersky

basically unzipping, downloading large files etc would make the RAM usage shoot through the roof, try redoing what you did unzip and launch firefox and keep an eye on the RAM/CPU usage, i know the issue is still present in 2009 of kaspersky but no idea about 2010, worth a try

or you could uninstall, restart and try unzipping then launch firefox

Valenciente · Sep 3, 2009, 05:53 AM

Well, just sitting here right now with my less programs running than my rig starts up with, the ram usage is at 2,3gb. Even in Vista, that seems like a lot to me?

I actually didn't know about that file bug, and I have been using KIS for years now. Will check up on that, thanks!

A Cheese Danish · Sep 3, 2009, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valenciente

Well, just sitting here right now with my less programs running than my rig starts up with, the ram usage is at 2,3gb. Even in Vista, that seems like a lot to me?

2.3GB for Vista does seem like a lot. Check and see what process or processes are using the most of it. Or how many.
Maybe the program(s) may have something to do with it.

Hayder_Master · Sep 3, 2009, 06:14 AM

maybe it is over heat problem check out cpu temp

Conflict0s · Sep 3, 2009, 07:06 AM

With that kind of RAM usage, I would vote for a heavy clean up using a third party uninstaller like "Revo Unistaller" to get rid of some process, or do a fresh install.
You might want to check your "startup" in msconfig as well.

Mussels · Sep 3, 2009, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valenciente

Hiya folks.

So, I've had my rig for some time now, and yeah, it's not top-notch anymore, but it still shouldn't be this slow.

You can see my specs at the sidethingie.

Anyway; It started a while ago now, but today it was just crazy. At times my rig takes 5 seconds to get the pop-up window up when right-clicking a folder, and Firefox keeps going "Not Responding" when opening new tabs (or hanging when doing so for a couple of seconds).

Also, earlier I unpacked some compressed files, which normally is not a problem on my quadcore, however, it tooks around 20secs for my rig to just open up Firefox while WinRar was extracting.

This leads me to believe that something is wrong, though I do doubt that it's a virus, I tend to not have troubles with those (aKa, I'm running Kaspersky Internet Security).

I've been pondering at the idea of a full-system format (Except my backup HDD's), but would like to know some possible solutions before I do that.

Thanks ahead of time,
Valen.

do you use sleep mode? i've been having similar issues waking up from S3 sleep states. a fresh reboot always works fine.

Valenciente · Sep 3, 2009, 02:06 PM

The proccesses running at the most memory is svchost.exe.
At this very instance, the top 3 is so:
svchost.exe : ~135.000k - A lookup a few mins later: ~120.000k
svchost.exe : ~132.000k - A lookup a few mins later: ~69.000k
SearchIndexer : ~53.000k

And then falling from there. Once in a while, one svchost proccess also hogs around half of my cpu, from which I can only recover by rebooting or closing the proccess, after which the proccess restarts by itself (The latter being usually that Aero theme closes down, switching to some ugly stock windows, then switching back to Aero after a few minutes).

My cpu, according to DFI SmartGuardian, is running at 45C right now. (I have Firefox with two tabs and a few basic startup programs running such as MemTurbo (Which sucks imho). So I would practically call that an idle temperature. It usually goes up to around 58C when playing WoW (I think), but maybe I should give it a stress test?

I don't use sleepmode.

Mussels · Sep 3, 2009, 02:10 PM

sounds like you need to reinstall windows.

A Cheese Danish · Sep 3, 2009, 02:14 PM

Holy ferk!

I've never had svchost take that many resources!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mussels

sounds like you need to reinstall windows.

I'd have to agree with Mussels on this one.

Valenciente · Sep 3, 2009, 02:32 PM

Yeah, I had a feeling it would come to that. Good thing I have 3 HDD's for my backups then.

Thanks for all your help folks, I'm sure a lot of it will also help after my reinstall of Windows.

Metropolis · Sep 3, 2009, 08:25 PM

Yeah a format/install should clear it, sounds like some malware or virus has infected the system files

IINexusII · Sep 3, 2009, 08:29 PM

try Spybot search & destroy. i would personally b shitted if i saw 2.3gb being used on idle and reinstall. but give that software a go

http://www.safer-networking.org/en/mirrors/index.html

Valenciente · Sep 3, 2009, 09:15 PM

I've successfully reinstalled to Windows 7 Ultimate x64 and EVERYTHING seems to run much smoother already, even WoW.

douglatins · Sep 3, 2009, 09:21 PM

reformat

rammolo · Sep 5, 2009, 04:24 PM

maybe youll want to give a try to system restore, essentially is a back-up/ restore of the registry

start/all programs/accesorioes/system tools/system restore

It has saved my bacon several times. good luck

Sep 2, 2009, 08:08 PM	#1
Valenciente Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norway, Europe Posts: 236 (0.13/day) Thanks: 90 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts System Specs	Rig started running really slow! (More info inside) Hiya folks. So, I've had my rig for some time now, and yeah, it's not top-notch anymore, but it still shouldn't be this slow. You can see my specs at the sidethingie. Anyway; It started a while ago now, but today it was just crazy. At times my rig takes 5 seconds to get the pop-up window up when right-clicking a folder, and Firefox keeps going "Not Responding" when opening new tabs (or hanging when doing so for a couple of seconds). Also, earlier I unpacked some compressed files, which normally is not a problem on my quadcore, however, it tooks around 20secs for my rig to just open up Firefox while WinRar was extracting. This leads me to believe that something is wrong, though I do doubt that it's a virus, I tend to not have troubles with those (aKa, I'm running Kaspersky Internet Security). I've been pondering at the idea of a full-system format (Except my backup HDD's), but would like to know some possible solutions before I do that. Thanks ahead of time, Valen. __________________

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Sep 2, 2009, 08:41 PM	#3
Valenciente Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norway, Europe Posts: 236 (0.13/day) Thanks: 90 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts System Specs	Already have Malwarebytes, detects nothing. Also have CCleaner, and the Uniblue registry program, if anyone knows that one. I think I'll try defragging my HDD, see how it goes. Thank you! __________________

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Sep 2, 2009, 08:37 PM	#2
95Viper Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: στο άλφα έως ωμέγα Posts: 3,856 (2.25/day) Thanks: 2,040 Thanked 1,424 Times in 1,123 Posts System Specs	Still could be a virus or some sort of malware. Try these, they are free to run scans and clean. http://www.superantispyware.com/ http://www.malwarebytes.org/ and you might want to try ccleaner to get rid of junk...http://www.ccleaner.com/ And, maybe defrag your hard drive:http://www.filehippo.com/download_oo_defrag/

Sep 2, 2009, 09:19 PM	#4
95Viper Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: στο άλφα έως ωμέγα Posts: 3,856 (2.25/day) Thanks: 2,040 Thanked 1,424 Times in 1,123 Posts System Specs	You might want to try turning off indexing and see if that helps...check out this site, it has some great info.http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/supertweaks.htm

Sep 2, 2009, 09:23 PM	#5
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Sep 3, 2009, 05:53 AM	#6
Valenciente Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norway, Europe Posts: 236 (0.13/day) Thanks: 90 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts System Specs	Well, just sitting here right now with my less programs running than my rig starts up with, the ram usage is at 2,3gb. Even in Vista, that seems like a lot to me? I actually didn't know about that file bug, and I have been using KIS for years now. Will check up on that, thanks! __________________

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Sep 3, 2009, 02:06 PM	#11
Valenciente Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norway, Europe Posts: 236 (0.13/day) Thanks: 90 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts System Specs	The proccesses running at the most memory is svchost.exe. At this very instance, the top 3 is so: svchost.exe : ~135.000k - A lookup a few mins later: ~120.000k svchost.exe : ~132.000k - A lookup a few mins later: ~69.000k SearchIndexer : ~53.000k And then falling from there. Once in a while, one svchost proccess also hogs around half of my cpu, from which I can only recover by rebooting or closing the proccess, after which the proccess restarts by itself (The latter being usually that Aero theme closes down, switching to some ugly stock windows, then switching back to Aero after a few minutes). My cpu, according to DFI SmartGuardian, is running at 45C right now. (I have Firefox with two tabs and a few basic startup programs running such as MemTurbo (Which sucks imho). So I would practically call that an idle temperature. It usually goes up to around 58C when playing WoW (I think), but maybe I should give it a stress test? I don't use sleepmode. __________________

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Sep 3, 2009, 02:32 PM	#14
Valenciente Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norway, Europe Posts: 236 (0.13/day) Thanks: 90 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts System Specs	Yeah, I had a feeling it would come to that. Good thing I have 3 HDD's for my backups then. Thanks for all your help folks, I'm sure a lot of it will also help after my reinstall of Windows. __________________ Last edited by Valenciente; Sep 3, 2009 at 02:41 PM.

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rammolo Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 4 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	maybe youll want to give a try to system restore, essentially is a back-up/ restore of the registry start/all programs/accesorioes/system tools/system restore It has saved my bacon several times. good luck

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