Looking for a Video Card...

Soylent Joe · Sep 13, 2009, 02:17 PM

I want to get a new GPU to use on my old system and/or HTPC.
I'll mainly have it in my secondary computer, it's a bit old but it's still alive.

Sony Vaio [insert model no. here]
P4 "Northwood" 3.2GHz
2GB DDR 553 (1x 1gb, 2x 512mb)
250GB Maxtor HDD
Asus [insert model no. here] motherboard
DVD burner and 2nd DVD reader
ATI Radeon X300 128mb (PCIe)
364W PSU
The HTPC has better specs so if it works on this it'll work on that.

Limitations:
Can't exceed 8" in length
Can't need more than like 350W
Don't want to pay more than $100

I was looking at the Sapphire 4850 that's only $100, but it wants a 450W PSU. So can anyone think of a card that fits the requirements that has the most power for the price? Maybe a 4770 or something else, it doesn't have to be ATI.

mosheen · Sep 13, 2009, 02:27 PM

4670

MN12BIRD · Sep 13, 2009, 02:38 PM

Yeah 4670 or 4770 I think are your best bet.

Soylent Joe · Sep 13, 2009, 06:23 PM

I think I have a winner here, what do you think?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-277-_-Product

a_ump · Sep 13, 2009, 06:24 PM

HD 4770, that's what i'd go with.

Soylent Joe · Sep 13, 2009, 06:28 PM

Well if I got a 4770, I'd get this one. So it's either the 1GB Gigabyte 4670 for $70 shipped or the 512MB Sapphire 4770 for $110 shipped. What would be the better buy? I'm thinking it'd be the 4670...

JrRacinFan · Sep 13, 2009, 06:31 PM

Definitely HD4670, just so you don't need to switch out the power supply.

Soylent Joe · Sep 13, 2009, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Definitely HD4670, just so you don't need to switch out the power supply.

Yeah, and if you were to see the stupid way the PSU is installed, you'd understand my pain.

Guess the 4670 is the winner.

JrRacinFan · Sep 13, 2009, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soylent Joe

Yeah, and if you were to see the stupid way the PSU is installed, you'd understand my pain.

Guess the 4670 is the winner.

Or maybe even 4650 if you wanna save a little bit of cash.

a_ump · Sep 13, 2009, 06:33 PM

no, lol ur wrong on that one m8. the HD 4770 is a lot better than the HD 4670, almost twice the performance if not better. and what resolution? if its 1680x1050 definitely the HD 4770. but then it is only a 350watt. HD 4670 to be safe. If your at 1280x1024 it should suffice.

newtekie1 · Sep 13, 2009, 06:34 PM

You could buy one of my 9600GSOs for $65 and use it to fold for TPU.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=103708

Soylent Joe · Sep 13, 2009, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a_ump

no, lol ur wrong on that one m8. the HD 4770 is a lot better than the HD 4670, almost twice the performance if not better. and what resolution? if its 1680x1050 definitely the HD 4770. but then it is only a 350watt. HD 4670 to be safe. If your at 1280x1024 it should suffice.

Well, it'd be at 1360x768, an odd resolution. And there's really now way to swap out PSU's, I don't want to fork out that much right now.

a_ump · Sep 13, 2009, 06:37 PM

wouldn't a 9600GSO be pushing it with the 350watt? if he had more juice then i'd definitely point to that, but i'd say HD 4670 to be safe.

JrRacinFan · Sep 13, 2009, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newtekie1

You could buy one of my 9600GSOs for $65 and use it to fold for TPU.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=103708

G92 or G94?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soylent Joe

Well, it'd be at 1360x768, an odd resolution. And there's really now way to swap out PSU's, I don't want to fork out that much right now.

Not that odd of a resolution. Basically it's "720p extended". Mainly found in 16:9 HDTV's.

Soylent Joe · Sep 13, 2009, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a_ump

wouldn't a 9600GSO be pushing it with the 350watt? if he had more juice then i'd definitely point to that, but i'd say HD 4670 to be safe.

Says about 180-250W for the 9600. The 4770 doesn't seem to suck a whole lot more juice than the 4650.

a_ump · Sep 13, 2009, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soylent Joe

Says about 180-250W for the 9600. The 4770 doesn't seem to suck a whole lot more juice than the 4650.

yea, that's why i pointed to that. it'd run any game at ur res no prob, well with the usual stalker:CS and crysis.

Soylent Joe · Sep 13, 2009, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a_ump

yea, that's why i pointed to that. it'd run any game at ur res no prob, well with the usual stalker:CS and crysis.

Well if I get something that needs a 6-pin power imput, it will be coming from a 2x molex to 6 pin adapter, and I know that isn't really good for cards.

a_ump · Sep 13, 2009, 06:45 PM

i was talking about the HD 4770. the 9600GSO would be fine as well. u have a nice selection to pick from right now. I'd say 9600GSO, HD 4670, HD 4770. though personally i'd gowith the HD 4670 just because ur PSU is only 350watts.

Scrizz · Sep 13, 2009, 06:46 PM

don't forget this is for a HTPC not a gaming rig
a 4650/70 would fit the bill perfectly

a_ump · Sep 13, 2009, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrizz

don't forget this is for a HTPC not a gaming rig
a 4650/70 would fit the bill perfectly

ah, see i didn't read that lol. yea HTPC DEFINITELY an HD 4650/70 though the HD 4670 is barely what? like $5-10 more. get one of those no question.

Soylent Joe · Sep 13, 2009, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrizz

don't forget this is for a HTPC not a gaming rig
a 4650/70 would fit the bill perfectly

Well what I meant was mainly for the P4 system, and if I happen to sell that computer, I'll put it in my HTPC. I do play some games on the P4 computer.

I was always looking at the 4670, the 4650 was kinda meh

a_ump · Sep 13, 2009, 06:52 PM

yea they're in the same family but the HD 4670 is quite a bit better than the HD 4650.

Soylent Joe · Sep 13, 2009, 06:54 PM

Can the 4670 fold?

Edit: "my ATI4650/4670 doesn't have current support for folding so a little help from the Folding Forums came in handy. as far as I know, all other ATI cards that can fold are supported.
to make the 4650/4670 fold; go to ATI website, searsh for SDK V1.2.1-beta.
you will be given a choice and you want to click the link to 'ati.amd.com/technology/streamingcomputing/sdkdwnld.html'.
after installing, locate your Folding@home-gpu folder and replace amdcalcl.dll and amdcalrt.dll with the new .dll files you just installed.
restart your machine. good folding on ATI4650/4670 cards."

Guess it can with a little work, if I can get it running I'll just leave F@H on all the time

a_ump · Sep 13, 2009, 06:57 PM

yep, any card that has SPU's can fold. and as ur edit states, some may take a lil more thinking to get it going

mosheen · Sep 13, 2009, 07:04 PM

4650 ddr3 even better

Sep 13, 2009, 02:17 PM	#1
Soylent Joe Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brunswick, GA Posts: 3,030 (2.08/day) Thanks: 2,777 Thanked 676 Times in 460 Posts System Specs	Looking for a Video Card... I want to get a new GPU to use on my old system and/or HTPC. I'll mainly have it in my secondary computer, it's a bit old but it's still alive. Sony Vaio [insert model no. here] P4 "Northwood" 3.2GHz 2GB DDR 553 (1x 1gb, 2x 512mb) 250GB Maxtor HDD Asus [insert model no. here] motherboard DVD burner and 2nd DVD reader ATI Radeon X300 128mb (PCIe) 364W PSU The HTPC has better specs so if it works on this it'll work on that. Limitations: Can't exceed 8" in length Can't need more than like 350W Don't want to pay more than $100 I was looking at the Sapphire 4850 that's only $100, but it wants a 450W PSU. So can anyone think of a card that fits the requirements that has the most power for the price? Maybe a 4770 or something else, it doesn't have to be ATI. __________________ Heatware SteamID

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Sep 13, 2009, 02:27 PM	#2
mosheen Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mauritius Posts: 322 (0.23/day) Thanks: 15 Thanked 55 Times in 44 Posts System Specs	4670 __________________ - ---

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Sep 13, 2009, 02:38 PM	#3
MN12BIRD Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 444 (0.29/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 78 Times in 72 Posts System Specs	Yeah 4670 or 4770 I think are your best bet.

Sep 13, 2009, 06:23 PM	#4
Soylent Joe Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brunswick, GA Posts: 3,030 (2.08/day) Thanks: 2,777 Thanked 676 Times in 460 Posts System Specs	I think I have a winner here, what do you think? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-277-_-Product __________________ Heatware SteamID

Sep 13, 2009, 06:24 PM	#5
a_ump Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fairmont, WV Posts: 3,081 (1.53/day) Thanks: 450 Thanked 317 Times in 294 Posts System Specs	HD 4770, that's what i'd go with. __________________ My Heatware “MRCL:What if Jesus came by and Apocalypse actually would happen? Weer:Then I'd be more afraid that other works of fiction would come true, such as Harry Potter.”

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Sep 13, 2009, 06:28 PM	#6
Soylent Joe Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brunswick, GA Posts: 3,030 (2.08/day) Thanks: 2,777 Thanked 676 Times in 460 Posts System Specs	Well if I got a 4770, I'd get this one. So it's either the 1GB Gigabyte 4670 for $70 shipped or the 512MB Sapphire 4770 for $110 shipped. What would be the better buy? I'm thinking it'd be the 4670... __________________ Heatware SteamID

Sep 13, 2009, 06:31 PM	#7
JrRacinFan Served 5k and counting ... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Youngstown, OH Posts: 16,121 (7.14/day) Thanks: 4,149 Thanked 4,552 Times in 4,027 Posts System Specs	Definitely HD4670, just so you don't need to switch out the power supply. __________________ Graphics Artists United™ Request Thread Low Cache CPU Club Solaris Utility DVD 3.0 DanishDevil's Logitech Soundroom TPU Video Gallery Sciencemark Revisited

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Sep 13, 2009, 06:33 PM	#10
a_ump Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fairmont, WV Posts: 3,081 (1.53/day) Thanks: 450 Thanked 317 Times in 294 Posts System Specs	no, lol ur wrong on that one m8. the HD 4770 is a lot better than the HD 4670, almost twice the performance if not better. and what resolution? if its 1680x1050 definitely the HD 4770. but then it is only a 350watt. HD 4670 to be safe. If your at 1280x1024 it should suffice. __________________ My Heatware “MRCL:What if Jesus came by and Apocalypse actually would happen? Weer:Then I'd be more afraid that other works of fiction would come true, such as Harry Potter.”

Sep 13, 2009, 06:34 PM	#11
newtekie1 Semi-Retired Folder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 17,751 (6.48/day) Thanks: 780 Thanked 5,115 Times in 3,706 Posts System Specs	You could buy one of my 9600GSOs for $65 and use it to fold for TPU. http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=103708 __________________ Rig1: System Specs. Rig2: A8-5600K@4.4GHz / AsRock FM2A75 Pro4 / 8GB Corsair DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 / HD7560D / Samsung DVD-Burner / 1.5TB WD Green + 3x3TB WD RED in RAID5 Rig3: Athlon X2 4200+ / M4A79 Deluxe / 4GB G.Skill Pi DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 / GT430 / Sony DVD-Burner / 500GB WD Rig4: Phenom II x6 1605T @ 3.6GHz / Asus M5A99X Evo / 8GB PNY DDR3-1600 9-9-9 / GTX470 & GTX470 / Samsung DVD-Burner / 1.5TB Seagate

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Sep 13, 2009, 06:37 PM	#13
a_ump Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fairmont, WV Posts: 3,081 (1.53/day) Thanks: 450 Thanked 317 Times in 294 Posts System Specs	wouldn't a 9600GSO be pushing it with the 350watt? if he had more juice then i'd definitely point to that, but i'd say HD 4670 to be safe. __________________ My Heatware “MRCL:What if Jesus came by and Apocalypse actually would happen? Weer:Then I'd be more afraid that other works of fiction would come true, such as Harry Potter.”

Sep 13, 2009, 06:45 PM	#18
a_ump Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fairmont, WV Posts: 3,081 (1.53/day) Thanks: 450 Thanked 317 Times in 294 Posts System Specs	i was talking about the HD 4770. the 9600GSO would be fine as well. u have a nice selection to pick from right now. I'd say 9600GSO, HD 4670, HD 4770. though personally i'd gowith the HD 4670 just because ur PSU is only 350watts. __________________ My Heatware “MRCL:What if Jesus came by and Apocalypse actually would happen? Weer:Then I'd be more afraid that other works of fiction would come true, such as Harry Potter.”

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Scrizz Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brandon, FL, US Posts: 2,129 (1.01/day) Thanks: 728 Thanked 292 Times in 267 Posts System Specs	don't forget this is for a HTPC not a gaming rig a 4650/70 would fit the bill perfectly __________________ ~Scrizz Protected, Mother Approved~

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Sep 13, 2009, 06:52 PM	#22
a_ump Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fairmont, WV Posts: 3,081 (1.53/day) Thanks: 450 Thanked 317 Times in 294 Posts System Specs	yea they're in the same family but the HD 4670 is quite a bit better than the HD 4650. __________________ My Heatware “MRCL:What if Jesus came by and Apocalypse actually would happen? Weer:Then I'd be more afraid that other works of fiction would come true, such as Harry Potter.”

Sep 13, 2009, 06:54 PM	#23
Soylent Joe Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brunswick, GA Posts: 3,030 (2.08/day) Thanks: 2,777 Thanked 676 Times in 460 Posts System Specs	Can the 4670 fold? Edit: "my ATI4650/4670 doesn't have current support for folding so a little help from the Folding Forums came in handy. as far as I know, all other ATI cards that can fold are supported. to make the 4650/4670 fold; go to ATI website, searsh for SDK V1.2.1-beta. you will be given a choice and you want to click the link to 'ati.amd.com/technology/streamingcomputing/sdkdwnld.html'. after installing, locate your Folding@home-gpu folder and replace amdcalcl.dll and amdcalrt.dll with the new .dll files you just installed. restart your machine. good folding on ATI4650/4670 cards." Guess it can with a little work, if I can get it running I'll just leave F@H on all the time __________________ Heatware SteamID

Sep 13, 2009, 06:57 PM	#24
a_ump Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fairmont, WV Posts: 3,081 (1.53/day) Thanks: 450 Thanked 317 Times in 294 Posts System Specs	yep, any card that has SPU's can fold. and as ur edit states, some may take a lil more thinking to get it going __________________ My Heatware “MRCL:What if Jesus came by and Apocalypse actually would happen? Weer:Then I'd be more afraid that other works of fiction would come true, such as Harry Potter.”

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