Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 discussion thread

[shevanel]

buddy at work is a console guy, he's never seen or played a PC game in his life. He says MW2 is the best game he's ever played in his life. he says there is 0 lag and i asked him was it worth $60, he said it was worth $100

[Marineborn]

Originally Posted by shevanel

buddy at work is a console guy, he's never seen or played a PC game in his life. He says MW2 is the best game he's ever played in his life. he says there is 0 lag and i asked him was it worth $60, he said it was worth $100

Is your buddy special? lol im kidding shev, introduce him to crysis on Ultra, thats what i did to a guy that had never played a pc game and he was litterally speakless and didnt know how to say anything...and then wanted me to build him a computer 5 seconds later. lol Console noobs are so funny

[shevanel]

This guy is cool as hell but I'd be the first to admit he's a dumbass. not because of MW2 comments, but many many other things I know about him.

[Cheeseball]

I bought the game without ever having to join the hate bandwagon or the praise-the-game hippies. I knew about the lack of dedicated servers, but I bought it because I thought it would be just as good as MW1/WAW and that I trusted Infinty Ward would do fine with the multiplayer at that state.

I guess I was fucking wrong.

MW2's multiplayer component is fucking useless if you're not in North America or Europe. It cannot find any good match ups (ping is 200+) at all, yet when I play COD4/COD5 and connect to some of my local (e.g. Australia, Hong Kong, Malaysia, etc.) servers, ping is like around ~50. Their centralized bullshit is slow as hell, especially for international users.

And the single player is only around 6 fucking hours long. WTF did they do?

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by CDdude55

Fixed.

Ya know me talking bad about the game isn't just about this game. Its the state of gaming all together. I care about video games. They have been my escape for almost 30 years.

Out of all them years the only time I ever saw the industry make the wrong move was in the early 80s and at the time I was to young to voice my opinion. All I knew was E.T. for the Atari was way to hard for me. If I knew then what I know now I would be a little exploding tower of nerd rage.

This CoD game might in fact be a lot of fun to play. But it also follows a very bad trend developers are latching on to. Socialized gaming. Instead of putting years into a game to make it a true sequel they just rehash an old engine and add some decent writing. Also they like to add shock value now just in case the plot doesn't work. Airport scene anyone?

So call me a whiner and a cry baby all you want. But I beg you to look at the bigger picture. If you buy this game you are contributing to developers new found attitude of "one size fits all".

[Live OR Die]

Originally Posted by Scrizz

better gameplay?
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well i think the game plays better than the 1st one but the maps suck and i still think cod waw is a better game its got more character , its not so boring

[Gzero]

Interesting point shown here about turning the lag meter into a more useful indicator:

Spoiler

• Navigate to the folder: 'program files\steam\steamapps\common\call of duty modern warfare 2\players' and open the file config_mp.cfg

• Change scoresping_interval from 100 to 20, and maxbars from 4 to 10 (10 is the max).

• This means that each of the 10 bars represents 20ms, with full green being 20ms or lower, and 1 red being 200ms or higher.

http://img52.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=hostadvantage1.jpg

Now you can identify the host and avoid him/her(yeah right) at all costs.

[Mussels]

they're turning video games into the simpsons.

at the end of your session, hit reset, add a new mission and off you go.


its like paying per quest in WoW... same engine, same graphics, just a different location and different order to events...

[HookeyStreet]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Also I dont care if they let you skip that level. It was BS to put it in there to begin with.

Why? I think it was quite brave to include a level like that and it did add to the atmosphere of the game.

We all get it 'TheMailMan78' doesnt like MW2......but some of us do. Move on with your life

[shevanel]

if u had to guess what would you think the ratio of games that suck are to games that are good, for pc.. and im talking popular games not things u find on pogo..

ive spent over $400 on games in the past 6 months and only 2-3 of them were shitty.

of course its a matter of opinion unless there are obvious things that make the game suck and arent from user critisism (sp)

[FreedomEclipse]

Originally Posted by Live OR Die

well its just cod4 with better game play and craper mp maps, i like the 2 player co-op more than mp

how is LESS playability/gameplay considerd better?

Spoiler

though....the 'The Rock' moment in SP where you have to enter this fortress to rescue capt. price & you have to fight through showers was cool i suppose but its not original

you could really tell they were scraping the barrel for Ideas - you could say it was almost like they were rushing the game (possibly) the game feels like they just wanted it done & dusted as soon as possible.

[Mussels]

the airport thing feels to me like they were told to do something "out there" and "attention grabbing" so that it didnt feel like a another generic FPS game (such as what happened to wolfenstein)

[shevanel]

Originally Posted by FreedomEclipse

how is LESS playability/gameplay considerd better?

Spoiler

though....the 'The Rock' moment in SP where you have to enter this fortress to rescue capt. price & you have to fight through showers was cool i suppose but its not original

you could really tell they were scraping the barrel for Ideas - you could say it was almost like they were rushing the game (possibly) the game feels like they just wanted it done & dusted as soon as possible.

yeah b4 xmas.. xmas = $

[Crusader]

Originally Posted by Cheeseball

MW2's multiplayer component is fucking useless if you're not in North America or Europe. It cannot find any good match ups (ping is 200+) at all, yet when I play COD4/COD5 and connect to some of my local (e.g. Australia, Hong Kong, Malaysia, etc.) servers, ping is like around ~50. Their centralized bullshit is slow as hell, especially for international users.

I forwarded a few certain ports, and now I get almost nothing but Australian games. Before hand it was fucking horrible, with every 5th server being Australian compared to the rest being American. Oh and the whole "you leave this game for ANY reason (aka it's got shit ping), you'll get a loss recorded to your personal record for anyone who actually cares" is fucking moronic. Sure I'd rather play on decent servers than have a decent record, but you shouldn't punish us anymore than you bastards already have, especially considering it's your fuckup IW!

Otherwise, I like the multiplayer. Heaps of new weapons, shit loads of attachments and a slightly different way of going about the kit creation. Idm the maps, I haven't ran into any that I didn't like. Although they still haven't fixed the whole "lifeless environment", where trees/bushes etc are statues and don't move what-so-ever.

Though it is missing a hell of a lot of Hardcore modes, it's only got TDM and S&D

I haven't really touched the SP, or the Co-op, I find the multi to be quite enjoyable (when you've got a decent host), way better than MW1 IMHO. (I'm probably just being distracted by all the shiny new toys I get to play with; and two attachments per weapon is awesome! lol)

Oh btw, yes I'm playing this on PC, so I'm not a console R-tard.


And about the "doesn't support SLI", I don't see this as much of an issue (sure it's needed for PC users, but still) assuming one of your cards is quite capable of running it. But if it's power usage or something along those lines that you're concerned about, then go ATI so the second card simply idles :P (assuming it does that while ingame, I haven't checked lol).

[HookeyStreet]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Ya know me talking bad about the game isn't just about this game. Its the state of gaming all together. I care about video games. They have been my escape for almost 30 years.

Out of all them years the only time I ever saw the industry make the wrong move was in the early 80s and at the time I was to young to voice my opinion. All I knew was E.T. for the Atari was way to hard for me. If I knew then what I know now I would be a little exploding tower of nerd rage.

This CoD game might in fact be a lot of fun to play. But it also follows a very bad trend developers are latching on to. Socialized gaming. Instead of putting years into a game to make it a true sequel they just rehash an old engine and add some decent writing. Also they like to add shock value now just in case the plot doesn't work. Airport scene anyone?

So call me a whiner and a cry baby all you want. But I beg you to look at the bigger picture. If you buy this game you are contributing to developers new found attitude of "one size fits all".

Now thats something I agree with. Im not a PC gamer anymore, but I do feel sorry for you guys getting screwed.......and its only going to get worse

The game developers are starting to focus on the console because gameing wise, its a 'quick fix'. Go to the store, pick up console and game, plug it in at home and your away....but its not so simple with PC gaming is it

[WiCz]

Originally Posted by Cheeseball

And the single player is only around 6 fucking hours long. WTF did they do?

They realised the sheeple don't care about being shafted and are so impatient they will buy anything that will install.

This marks the top of a slippery slope that leads to less and less quality in our games, and it's very depressing that so many people simply cannot see the wood for the trees and are falling over themselves to line IW's pockets for doing less and less and charging more and more in the middle of worldwide economic fail

Worse still, there are one or two in this thread telling people who don't like the game to, and I quote " fuck off out of the thread".....

With a target audience like this, no wonder developers are thinking " sod this, let's just release any old shite on our terms, it works for IW"

All in all an 'annus horribilis' for pc gaming, and gaming as a whole.

[HookeyStreet]

Originally Posted by WiCz

They realised the sheeple don't care about being shafted and are so impatient they will buy anything that will install.

This marks the top of a slippery slope that leads to less and less quality in our games, and it's very depressing that so many people simply cannot see the wood for the trees and are falling over themselves to line IW's pockets for doing less and less and charging more and more in the middle of worldwide economic fail

Worse still, there are one or two in this thread telling people who don't like the game to, and I quote " fuck off out of the thread".....

With a target audience like this, no wonder developers are thinking " sod this, let's just release any old shite on our terms, it works for IW"

All in all an 'annus horribilis' for pc gaming, and gaming as a whole.

But, the console version is actually good. So its not bad news for everyone is it? 6 Hours to complete is fairly short, but obviously it does have to end at some point......then you hae the MP to keep you busy. The game developers know this and do focus on MP a lot more nowadays.

I understand the PC gamer feeling robbed and rightly so. But because the game isnt very good on the PC doesnt make it total shite!

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

Originally Posted by HookeyStreet

*SNIP*

I understand the PC gamer feeling robbed and rightly so. But because the game isnt very good on the PC doesnt make it total shite!

For people who refuse to play on consoles.. yes, yes it is total $h1t. Please remember that techpowerup is first and foremost a PC forum and as such most of the people here couldnt care less if the children playing x360 are enjoying themselves.

[shevanel]

Im pretty sure the only game that will top the drama found under anything with a MW2 title will be when Crysis 2 or whatever its called gets released..

there was already that leaked video which instigated about 14 hours worth of pc vs conslow debate.

I cannot wait.

and just because infinitewart doesnt wanna make a good pc game doesnt mean that other pc game developers will not.. there will be a market for pc games somehow.

[Dazzeerr]

Any boycotting that happened for the PC version clearly didn't do enough, Modern Warfare 2 is in the same league as Michael Jackson.

http://www.mcvuk.com/static/images/a...properties.jpg

[kurosagi01]

most of it probably console and a lot of people have bought it on PC theres like 59,000 on xfire playing the multiplayer and its rank 3rd now on xfire

[Nailezs]

i wasnt really surprised. i heard on the radi othat MW2 was predicted to sell about 12 MILLION copies (12,000,000). 200 thousand (200,000) is hardly a drop in the bucket, something like .01666 percent or so, and we certainly cant expect, or assume, that everyone who signed that petition canceled their pre-order, same somewhere on the order of 30% or so(thats a guess). so it really impacted their sales by like...60,000 copies, or .005%

its no wonder they didnt give 2 sh!ts about the petition

[Nailezs]

well i can certainly agree that pc wise it does seem to have had an effect, but in the overall picture, its no wonder that they didnt care

[HookeyStreet]

Originally Posted by TRIPTEX_MTL

For people who refuse to play on consoles.. yes, yes it is total $h1t. Please remember that techpowerup is first and foremost a PC forum and as such most of the people here couldnt care less if the children playing x360 are enjoying themselves.

I know TPU is a PC forum But if we are talking about the game in general then the console versions can and will be mentioned. If the title said 'Modern Warfare 2 - PC version discussion' then I could understand where your coming from, but until then STFU, I can say what I want!

PS: dont call me a child!

[WiCz]

Originally Posted by HookeyStreet

STFU, I can say what I want!

PS: dont call me a child!

So you can say what you want but nobody else can?

You couldn't make this crap up, roflmao