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Old Sep 23, 2009, 05:00 AM   #26
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4sale now an option at newegg. its ready.

now its back to auto-notify
Thank You sir i got my HIS 5870 $441 with tax plus Overnight shipping from Fed Ex
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 05:08 AM   #27
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@ Benetanegia, good point, it would make it worse! I thought maybe there was some ducting that took air from the red things to underneath the fan, ie to feed it from both sides. But no.
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 05:13 AM   #28
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Thanks for the review. I wish you'd overclock just memory and see what gains it gives, if the board is bw starved...

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How do you know and more importantly - how is that a downside of the card?
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 05:18 AM   #29
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Anybody think there is a chance of some decent,10%+, gains with driver re-writes?
 
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 05:19 AM   #30
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I'm very disapoint... Byt why the hell tests were taken on Catalyst 9.6!? WTF?
Everyone knows that first driver that suppor new card does not utilize them very well.
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 05:25 AM   #31
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Awesome review, I'm glad to see I hit the performance guesses pretty much right on with it hanging with the best dual GPU single slot cards.

Also I'm assuming on the 2GB cards that backplate will actually help cool them since the memory will be on the back of the card?
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 05:32 AM   #32
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good performance for now, newer drivers should boost performance though(remember it took a few months for the HD3K and 4K series to show what they were really capable of)

now everyone can stop saying that the cooler is sh*t now though, under 80C overclocked is good for stock cooling, changing the thermal paste would also drop the temps

I think its a respectable card for now

the backplate is probably just to reduce the chance of the card being damaged and to cool the memory if its there

I'm waiting for the prices of cards to drop now so i can probably snag something cheap now though


since you didn't push the card harder overclocking with software voltage tweaks wiz, do you have to send the card back to them when your done, I thought you kept your cards.

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Old Sep 23, 2009, 05:57 AM   #33
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This card is being held back by driver issues, since they've delayed the release of the 5870X2 because of driver issues so naturally this card would have similar problems....

Once it actually comes out hopefully the card will have better drivers.
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 05:59 AM   #34
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This card is being held back by driver issues, since they've delayed the release of the 5870X2 because of driver issues so naturally this card would have similar problems....

Once it actually comes out hopefully the card will have better drivers.
Amen to that. In the past ATI's stuff gets better as the drivers mature. I am going to get a 5870
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 06:00 AM   #35
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Amen to that. In the past ATI's stuff gets better as the drivers mature. I am going to get a 5870
Definately. My 4570 got a literal 20% boost across all games from the 9.8 drivers Hope we can see the same with this. Generally pre-release drivers sent to the reviewers are outdated.
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 06:01 AM   #36
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I would like to direct your attention to the following, related article... http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3643

Mr. Smith seems to believe these cards are being launched at $379 and $259, and uses these numbers throughout his review. Is he really bad with a keyboard? Did he miss the press release? Are we... Actually going to get them for such a paltry sum?
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 06:14 AM   #37
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5870 is $380 on newegg right now.
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 06:17 AM   #38
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Hey, this might be a stupid question, but when is the 5850 coming out?
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 06:18 AM   #39
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I would have hopped for more... but its not really fair to compare the gtx295/4870x2.
the 5870 smoked the gtx 285 with crappy drivers...
It is the new king of gpus.
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 06:20 AM   #40
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I believe the drivers Wizzard used in this review is recommended by AMD, and that's mean it's the best performer atm, of course, expect more updates/optimize in the future.
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 06:22 AM   #41
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I believe the drivers Wizzard used in this review is recommended by AMD, and that's mean it's the best performer atm, of course, expect more updates/optimize in the future.
At least look forward to 10-15% in the next few months.
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 06:22 AM   #42
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i dont understand the criticism, 5870 is faster than the gtx295 many times while being 100 bucks cheaper, if money isnt an issue for you simple crossfire them if you want to get high benches.
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Thats right, slap in 2 of these and nothing will come close.
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 06:26 AM   #44
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crossfire review at toms..http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...0,2422-12.html

wow! it smokes the gtx295! in crossfire!
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 06:27 AM   #45
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i cant wait to see what the 5870 x2 does!!! 2nd you know the cards gonna get shorter.
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 06:29 AM   #46
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this review was what i'm waiting for not pictures and presentations...

so older cards are still in game and even is a powerful card they destroy all the prices,even their which is good for us;older cards will drop in price much faster and who give a s...t about dx11 in a few weeks will have bargain prices for upgrade
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 06:40 AM   #47
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Well there are people out there that do give a shit and will pick up a 5800 board shortly.
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does anyone have an idea how much will the 5870 X2 cost in Europe/EU?
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Wow... this is good, and as soon as the initial price drops it'll be even better.

Suppose the pre-release Benchmarks (of it beating GTX295's etc. by 50%+) were abit off ... lol.

The 5850 looks like a more realistic buy, two of them would be awesome.

Also, looks like we're still waiting for a single card to play Crysis over 60FPS
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Nice review! I'm specifically interested in the HD5850 numbers and you explained pretty well how you got them without using an actual 5850

Only thing (but I might just need to read more reviews here on TPU) is I was looking my ass off for temperature results. Took me quite a while to find them. My suggestion is to rename that page from "Overclocking" to "Overclocking, Temperatures".
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