Corsair not Corsair?!

TheMailMan78 · Sep 29, 2009, 05:41 AM

I just discovered my 750TX is not a Corsair!

Its a CWT!!! Check this out!

Now my question is quality? Does anyone know how good CWT is?
http://www.cwt.com.tw/

cyriene · Sep 29, 2009, 05:44 AM

Corsair contracts cwt to make many of their PSUs, this is nothing new

TheMailMan78 · Sep 29, 2009, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyriene

Corsair contracts cwt to make many of their PSUs, this is nothing new

Source?

jmcslob · Sep 29, 2009, 05:46 AM

Almost every company uses outside venders to make there products..
The question is do you trust Corairs Standards
I think so....
It's like this..I worked at a company that made parts for GM.HONDA and Toyota.....
WE had to be exact on the Toyota parts....Within 200 microns with Honda...And GM would buy the scrap parts at a discount at the end of the year....
So really it's just a matter of standards

Binge · Sep 29, 2009, 05:48 AM

That's been the way it's been for ages... all of my TX corsairs were made by that OEM.

TheMailMan78 · Sep 29, 2009, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcslob

Almost every company uses outside venders to make there products..
The question is do you trust Corairs Standards
I think so....
It's like this..I worked at a company that made parts for GM.HONDA and Toyota.....
WE had to be exact on the Toyota parts....Within 200 microns with Honda...And GM would buy the scrap parts at a discount at the end of the year....
So really it's just a matter of standards

Yeah I understand that man but Corsair used to be known as a good PSU maker not a good PSU vendor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Binge

That's been the way it's been for ages... all of my TX corsairs were made by that OEM.

Hell next time Ill just buy a CWT then.

Mussels · Sep 29, 2009, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Yeah I understand that man but Corsair used to be known as a good PSU maker not a good PSU vendor.

Hell next time Ill just but a CWT then.

corsair gets the designs modified.

There are only a few companies that have the equipment to make PSU's, these companies (OCZ, corsair, antec, etc) merely ask them to assemble PSU's to certain specs (or a modified version of an existing design) - even if you buy a CWT outright, it wont be the same as a CWT made corsair

JrRacinFan · Sep 29, 2009, 05:53 AM

If you must know ... there are many other manufacturers that use CWT or ChannelWell. One of the other popular brands being Xigmatek.

EDIT:

Oh don't forget about Antec truepowers/smartpowers and Tt toughpowers.

RejZoR · Sep 29, 2009, 05:58 AM

Actually OCZ has their own capacities for PSU construction. It happened when they bought PCC&P (PC Cooling & Power). I don't remember PCC&P of using CWT or Seasonic internals for their PSUs.
But they still mostly use external parts and PCC&P is kinda reserved only for their highest end.

Flyordie · Sep 29, 2009, 06:01 AM

Oh dear... Ripple Well Inc. The cause of the infamous True Power failure... Ripple would sometimes be 12.1V one second and 13.8V the next... or 13.8V one second and 11.1V the next... ripple was bad... bad...

Mussels · Sep 29, 2009, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RejZoR

Actually OCZ has their own capacities for PSU construction. It happened when they bought PCC&P (PC Cooling & Power). I don't remember PCC&P of using CWT or Seasonic internals for their PSUs.
But they still mostly use external parts and PCC&P is kinda reserved only for their highest end.

true, i forgot about the PC&C acquire. Thats an exception, but my point still stands

jagd · Sep 29, 2009, 02:31 PM

Seasonic for silencer series , win-tact for turbo-cool series iirc .Corsair using seasonic and CWT

Quote:

Originally Posted by RejZoR

I don't remember PCC&P of using CWT or Seasonic internals for their PSUs.
But they still mostly use external parts and PCC&P is kinda reserved only for their highest end.

Mussels · Sep 29, 2009, 02:47 PM

In other news...

Spoiler

And now, the sports:

(sorry, had to)

El_Mayo · Sep 29, 2009, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mussels

In other news...

Spoiler

And now, the sports:

(sorry, had to)

HOLY SHIT!
what difference does it make? if the product is good why does it matter WHO made it?

[Ion] · Sep 29, 2009, 05:05 PM

Corsair doesn't make any of their power supplies, they just tell CWT (ChannelWell) and SeaSonic what designs they want, and then submit a few of their own modifications/upgrades. The TX 850, 750, HX1000, and VX550 are all CWT-built units, the HX620, 520, VX450 and CX400 are all Seasonic. I'm not sure about the HX850, 750, and 650, but I would have to imagine that they are also Seasonic

pantherx12 · Sep 29, 2009, 05:22 PM

Its called branding, most companies do it these days.

And if its not branding then the other company just makes it for them, much like how Apple uses a Chinese factory.

erocker · Sep 29, 2009, 05:26 PM

Corsair has never made their own PSU's. They are either CWT or.. I want to say Silverstone, but I don't think that's right. Some other company that starts with an S I think.

JrRacinFan · Sep 29, 2009, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

Corsair has never made their own PSU's. They are either CWT or.. I want to say Silverstone, but I don't think that's right. Some other company that starts with an S I think.

Seasonic bro.

MoonPig · Sep 29, 2009, 05:30 PM

Anyone know who makes Silverstones? Mainly the DA750w

TheMailMan78 · Sep 29, 2009, 05:39 PM

I hate all of you.

parelem · Sep 29, 2009, 05:50 PM

here's a list of psu oems and who uses them

thebluebumblebee · Sep 29, 2009, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

I hate all of you.

Spend a little time at:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/
http://www.silentpcreview.com/section10.html

pantherx12 · Sep 29, 2009, 06:12 PM

Jonnyguru is a handy site.

Mistral · Sep 29, 2009, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

I hate all of you.

Since we are doing it already... http://www.corsair.com/products/h50/ - not manufactured by Corsair either.

...
Maybe a better question will be if the merchandise they manufacture is in the single digits percentage of what wears their brand or lower?

Does it even matter really? In the end, Corsair has their logo on some pretty good stuff.

hat · Sep 29, 2009, 06:44 PM

CWT was responsible for the terrible Antec Smartpower series. However they have bettered themselves since then, just as Intel has bettered themselves since the P4.

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Benchmarks:	I don't play benchmarks...

Sep 29, 2009, 06:44 PM	#25
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,236 (5.16/day) Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 2,039 Times in 1,549 Posts System Specs	CWT was responsible for the terrible Antec Smartpower series. However they have bettered themselves since then, just as Intel has bettered themselves since the P4. __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

System Name:	Starlifter // Dragonfly
Processor:	(lapped) i7 920 4GHz 1.3v // 1090T 3.6GHz 1.3v
Motherboard:	Asus Rampage III // Gigabyte GA-770T-USB3
Cooling:	(lapped) Corsair H70 // (lapped) TT Big Typhoon
Memory:	3x2GB DDR3 1600 10-10-10-30-128-1T 1.5v // 2x2GB DDR3 1333 9-9-9-24-1T 1.5v
Video Card:	HIS Radeon 5870 // BFG Maxcore 55 GTX260
Hard Disk:	Plextor M5S 128GB + 512GB OCZ Agility 4 + 2TB WD20EARS // WDC Black 500GB
Optical Drive:	SATA DVD-RW // IDE CD-RW
CRT/LCD Model:	Dell/Alienware AW2310 + 19" HDTV // 19" HDTV
Case:	Antec SOHO 1030B // some really old white case... but it's decent
Sound Card:	Creative X-Fi Fatality Professional // onboard (disabled)
PSU:	Antec NeoHe 550W // Corsair CX600w
Software:	Windows 7 Home Premium x64 // Windows 7 Home Premium x64
Benchmarks:	zunn zunnzunn zunn zunn