F@H only uses one core

Weer · Oct 22, 2009, 04:22 PM

On my Q6600, F@H only seems to use a single core.

It's probably a noob question, but I can't seem to resolve this.

Any ideas?

stanhemi · Oct 22, 2009, 04:26 PM

add '' -smp'' flag to your shortcut

[Ion] · Oct 22, 2009, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weer

On my Q6600, F@H only seems to use a single core.

It's probably a noob question, but I can't seem to resolve this.

Any ideas?

You have to use the SMP client to use more than one core. Here's a guide BUCK NASTY wrote: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=86169
Another option is running WCG, it is very easy to set up and uses as many cores/threads as are available. I think the best method is to run the GPUs on F@H (the GTX295 is good for about 16k PPD) and the CPUs on WCG (WCG only runs on CPUs, F@H is more GPU optimized)

kg4icg · Oct 22, 2009, 07:40 PM

I guess you havent tried a big wu. 1 run on 1 of those will get you 25k plus a bonus if finished early. You definately need the right hardware with that starting at the i7-860.

Weer · Oct 23, 2009, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kg4icg

I guess you havent tried a big wu. 1 run on 1 of those will get you 25k plus a bonus if finished early. You definately need the right hardware with that starting at the i7-860.

What's a big 'Wu'?

vaiopup · Oct 23, 2009, 01:12 AM

WU=Work Unit

Weer · Oct 23, 2009, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanhemi

add '' -smp'' flag to your shortcut

Doing that makes it open CMD every time.. then crash.

Weer · Oct 23, 2009, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vaiopup

WU=Work Unit

And how do I find one of those?

Really, I wish there was a guide for n00bs.

[Ion] · Oct 23, 2009, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weer

And how do I find one of those?

Really, I wish there was a guide for n00bs.

If you would be willing to run WCG on the CPU instead, check out the guide in my sig. It contains everything you need to know about WCG. (Sorry I can't help with F@H, I've never successfully gotten SMP to run, WCG is more my thing

)

vaiopup · Oct 23, 2009, 01:23 AM

Will this help?

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=5057

Don't be put off, Folding not as complicated as it looks and is straghforward once the client is configured

Weer · Oct 23, 2009, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Ion]

If you would be willing to run WCG on the CPU instead, check out the guide in my sig. It contains everything you need to know about WCG. (Sorry I can't help with F@H, I've never successfully gotten SMP to run, WCG is more my thing

)

Here is the thing. My Windows is pretty screwed up; I need to re-install it.
However, I want to enter the contest right after I re-install it and replace the motherboard and overclock my CPU, etc.
Now, while I don't want something that's high maintenance and which will very soon get erased.. I tried to run WCG and found that Windows was making it fail. It freezes then returns and I only get one assignment, and.. well, I'm running WCG on my E7300 right now, but I've only managed to get 4,000 points in 2 days. I will give it another go. Here goes nothing..

Weer · Oct 23, 2009, 01:30 AM

Alright, well.. I got WCG to work. It's getting 100% across the board. But, whenever I try to view it, it freezes and locks up. So annoying.

[Ion] · Oct 23, 2009, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weer

Alright, well.. I got WCG to work. It's getting 100% across the board. But, whenever I try to view it, it freezes and locks up. So annoying.

What do you mean "whenever I try to view it, it freezes and locks up"? Does this happen whenever you open the BOINC manager, or whenever you try to show the graphical animation?

Weer · Oct 23, 2009, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Ion]

What do you mean "whenever I try to view it, it freezes and locks up"? Does this happen whenever you open the BOINC manager, or whenever you try to show the graphical animation?

That's smart. The fact that I have F@H working on my 9600 GSO could cause the graphical animation to freeze.

But no, I'm afraid my problem was far simpler. Windows 7 needs to be re-installed.

It's working now. Showing 100% load on 6 cores running at 2.66Ghz, all together. Already have 6,000 points from 2 days of only 2 cores. Looks like I'm doing great.

Next I'll fix the E7300 computer and overclock it to 4.0Ghz. Then I'll fix this one and overclock it to the same. Then, I'll build my third PC and overclock the E5300 to at least 4.2Ghz. Then I'll have 8 cores working at 4.0Ghz+. That and two G92's and a 9600 GSO. How much do you think I'll get.. that is, before I build my i9-GT300 build in 2010?

One thing though - can anyone tell me how to use the second graphics card which is used for PhysX to run for F@H/WCG? I have a perfectly good 8800 GTS 512 running in the background while the 9600 GSO does all the work. It's silly. And if I set up 8800 GTS 512 SLi, will it really use both cards?

[Ion] · Oct 23, 2009, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weer

That's smart. The fact that I have F@H working on my 9600 GSO could cause the graphical animation to freeze.

But no, I'm afraid my problem was far simpler. Windows 7 needs to be re-installed.

It's working now. Showing 100% load on 6 cores running at 2.66Ghz, all together. Already have 6,000 points from 2 days of only 2 cores. Looks like I'm doing great.

Next I'll fix the E7300 computer and overclock it to 4.0Ghz. Then I'll fix this one and overclock it to the same. Then, I'll build my third PC and overclock the E5300 to at least 4.2Ghz. Then I'll have 8 cores working at 4.0Ghz+. That and two G92's and a 9600 GSO. How much do you think I'll get.. that is, before I build my i9-GT300 build in 2010?

One thing though - can anyone tell me how to use the second graphics card which is used for PhysX to run for F@H/WCG? I have a perfectly good 8800 GTS 512 running in the background while the 9600 GSO does all the work. It's silly. And if I set up 8800 GTS 512 SLi, will it really use both cards?

6 cores? What processor is this?

Regardless, that will be an incredible set of rigs for WCG. You can check your stats from the various pages I have linked to in my WCG essentials thread. The E7300 @ 4ghz should be good for 1K BOINC (7K WCG) points per day. About the same with the E5300. The GSOs (overclocked) should be good for 4K F@H a day, the 8800GTS cards should be good for about 5.5K (maybe 6K, depending on OC). Use this guide for setting up multiple GPUs, but remember to chance it to your username and team 50711 (we can't have our PPD going to OCN

)

Weer · Oct 23, 2009, 10:42 PM

I used the guide for multiple GPU's. I downloaded the pre-configured folders, even. But all that gets me is it telling me that 'one core does not work'. As in, my main 9600 GSO works fine, but for some reason, I can't get my 8800 GTS 512 to fold. It's just sitting there, on the second PCIe slot..

[Ion] · Oct 24, 2009, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weer

I used the guide for multiple GPU's. I downloaded the pre-configured folders, even. But all that gets me is it telling me that 'one core does not work'. As in, my main 9600 GSO works fine, but for some reason, I can't get my 8800 GTS 512 to fold. It's just sitting there, on the second PCIe slot..

Did you remember to extend the desktop to the second GPU? On XP, you can just do it without another monitor, on Vista you either need a second monitor or a dummy plug

Weer · Oct 24, 2009, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Ion]

Did you remember to extend the desktop to the second GPU? On XP, you can just do it without another monitor, on Vista you either need a second monitor or a dummy plug

Yes, of course. I have two monitors on two graphics cards. Temporarily, a 9600 GSO and an 8800 GTS 512.

But, I read that you can't fold on two different cards. I think that might be the reason it didn't work.

[Ion] · Oct 24, 2009, 01:32 PM

What drivers are you using? With the 182.50 drivers I was able to fold on 2 9600GSOs (96sp) and a 32-sp 8600GTS all in one system. The PPD of the GTS (card with the lower number of shaders), was reduced, but I believe that the 190 or 187 drivers allow you to fold on different cards with different numbers of shaders with no PPD reduction

Weer · Oct 25, 2009, 03:35 AM

Well, there's 190.38, 190.62, 191.03 and 191.07. I'm not sure which to download.

BUCK NASTY · Oct 25, 2009, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weer

Well, there's 190.38, 190.62, 191.03 and 191.07. I'm not sure which to download.

Use 190.38

Apollog · Oct 25, 2009, 04:11 AM

will folding on the same motherboard, with a 260GTX and 8800GTS be alright?
Sorry would post my own thread but cant yet.

[Ion] · Oct 25, 2009, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apollog

will folding on the same motherboard, with a 260GTX and 8800GTS be alright?
Sorry would post my own thread but cant yet.

I don't think so, the GTX cards and any other Geforce 6/7/8/9 cards don't seem to work well together. You could always try it, it is possible that Nvidia has fixed it in a new driver version and I'm not aware of the change

Weer · Oct 25, 2009, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

Use 190.38

Woah, Buck Nasty, the #1 TPU Folder!

You're my hero, Mr. Nasty!

Mr. Nasty, how can I fold like you and have my very own badge in my signature?

[Ion] · Oct 25, 2009, 06:52 AM

To get a basic F@H badge you need 100K points. Shouldn't be too hard if you can get your second GPU up.

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Oct 22, 2009, 04:26 PM	#2
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Oct 22, 2009, 04:22 PM	#1
Weer Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New York / Israel Posts: 1,293 (0.61/day) Thanks: 60 Thanked 95 Times in 73 Posts System Specs	F@H only uses one core On my Q6600, F@H only seems to use a single core. It's probably a noob question, but I can't seem to resolve this. Any ideas?

Oct 22, 2009, 07:40 PM	#4
kg4icg Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Herndon,Va Posts: 72 (0.04/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts System Specs	I guess you havent tried a big wu. 1 run on 1 of those will get you 25k plus a bonus if finished early. You definately need the right hardware with that starting at the i7-860.

Oct 23, 2009, 01:12 AM	#6
vaiopup Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 774 (0.40/day) Thanks: 11 Thanked 192 Times in 120 Posts System Specs	WU=Work Unit __________________ I came, I crunched, I saw something shiny and left 60 threads heating the house and spinning the meter. Crunching FOR Stan, not as Stan........Simplez innit. EOD sucks.

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Oct 23, 2009, 01:23 AM	#10
vaiopup Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 774 (0.40/day) Thanks: 11 Thanked 192 Times in 120 Posts System Specs	Will this help? http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=5057 Don't be put off, Folding not as complicated as it looks and is straghforward once the client is configured __________________ I came, I crunched, I saw something shiny and left 60 threads heating the house and spinning the meter. Crunching FOR Stan, not as Stan........Simplez innit. EOD sucks.

Oct 23, 2009, 01:30 AM	#12
Weer Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New York / Israel Posts: 1,293 (0.61/day) Thanks: 60 Thanked 95 Times in 73 Posts System Specs	Alright, well.. I got WCG to work. It's getting 100% across the board. But, whenever I try to view it, it freezes and locks up. So annoying.

Oct 23, 2009, 10:42 PM	#16
Weer Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New York / Israel Posts: 1,293 (0.61/day) Thanks: 60 Thanked 95 Times in 73 Posts System Specs	I used the guide for multiple GPU's. I downloaded the pre-configured folders, even. But all that gets me is it telling me that 'one core does not work'. As in, my main 9600 GSO works fine, but for some reason, I can't get my 8800 GTS 512 to fold. It's just sitting there, on the second PCIe slot..

Oct 24, 2009, 01:32 PM	#19
[Ion] WCG Team Assistant Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: North Carolina, US Posts: 10,671 (7.92/day) Thanks: 8,251 Thanked 9,338 Times in 4,263 Posts System Specs	What drivers are you using? With the 182.50 drivers I was able to fold on 2 9600GSOs (96sp) and a 32-sp 8600GTS all in one system. The PPD of the GTS (card with the lower number of shaders), was reduced, but I believe that the 190 or 187 drivers allow you to fold on different cards with different numbers of shaders with no PPD reduction __________________ Ion's WCG Essentials Thread Crunching (64 Threads + 896 CUDA Cores + 6272 Shaders): i3-2100@ 3.1 + HD7850 -- Atom D510 @ 1.66 -- C2D-M T9600 @ 2.8 -- i7-3612QM @ 2.8 -- i7-860 @ 2.9 + HD7950 -- i7-2700k @ 4.4 + 2xGTX470 -- PentDC-M T4200 @ 2.0 -- i7-920 @ 3.83 + 3xHD7770 -- DP Xeon E5420 @ 2.5 + HD7930 -- E1600 @ 2.4

Oct 25, 2009, 03:35 AM	#20
Weer Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New York / Israel Posts: 1,293 (0.61/day) Thanks: 60 Thanked 95 Times in 73 Posts System Specs	Well, there's 190.38, 190.62, 191.03 and 191.07. I'm not sure which to download.

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Oct 25, 2009, 04:11 AM	#22
Apollog Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	will folding on the same motherboard, with a 260GTX and 8800GTS be alright? Sorry would post my own thread but cant yet.

Oct 25, 2009, 06:52 AM	#25
[Ion] WCG Team Assistant Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: North Carolina, US Posts: 10,671 (7.92/day) Thanks: 8,251 Thanked 9,338 Times in 4,263 Posts System Specs	To get a basic F@H badge you need 100K points. Shouldn't be too hard if you can get your second GPU up. __________________ Ion's WCG Essentials Thread Crunching (64 Threads + 896 CUDA Cores + 6272 Shaders): i3-2100@ 3.1 + HD7850 -- Atom D510 @ 1.66 -- C2D-M T9600 @ 2.8 -- i7-3612QM @ 2.8 -- i7-860 @ 2.9 + HD7950 -- i7-2700k @ 4.4 + 2xGTX470 -- PentDC-M T4200 @ 2.0 -- i7-920 @ 3.83 + 3xHD7770 -- DP Xeon E5420 @ 2.5 + HD7930 -- E1600 @ 2.4

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