X800 GTO² to X850 XT BIOS Mod

W1zzard · Sep 13, 2005, 02:58 PM

To read this article go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...ng/vidcard/127

djbbenn · Sep 15, 2005, 08:42 PM

Nice...could the card just be flashed with a X850 XT PE bios and truned into a X850? Or is a whole different PCB and all?

-Dan

Deathspawner · Sep 16, 2005, 02:45 AM

Awesome find! That must be one of the coolest BIOS flashes ever!

AMDCam · Sep 16, 2005, 03:04 AM

Can't find it anywhere. If I could buy this in AGP for that price I would. Do you think it's possible? I'm looking at a 6800 ultra, but if this is in that price range ($200) then I'll just go with the GTO.

65tweet · Sep 16, 2005, 03:36 AM

What cooling was on that thing for your runs? Don't tell me it was like the tiny one that comes on a pro.

Sep 16, 2005, 07:05 AM

Could you please specify the Product Name or Link of that Sapphire Card?

There are 3 different Models available, but none with the Nameing Extension GTO² all are named GTO.

http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/?...bote+anzeigen+

Please help, to clarify which card to buy ....

Thanks in advance...

regards
ultimate

W1zzard · Sep 16, 2005, 07:42 AM

the gto² will shortly appear at resellers it uses the x850 pro heatsink .. the big one, but one slot

thedivinehairband · Sep 16, 2005, 08:10 AM

Does this same type of mod apply to the x800gt? it has the same core but only 8 pipelines activated. if so that would be totally awesome!!!!!!

thedivinehairband · Sep 16, 2005, 08:53 AM

Bit more research done and I have found that the Powercolour X800 GT contains the r480 core and overclocks very nicely!!! Perhaps a bios update could get this working with all 16 lovely pipelines!!!

W1zzard · Sep 16, 2005, 12:16 PM

it does not work on the gt as far as i know

Sep 16, 2005, 01:49 PM

Hexus.net is reporting that the GTO2 is a 16 pipe card at stock settings:

"Other news we are hearing is that ATI love their GT brand so much there will be the GTO and GTO2 launched very soon. Essentially the GTO is a 12 pipeline GT, and GTO2 is X800XL (16 pipeline GT). They have decided that the XL and 850s will be gone for good. So the new lineup will be X800GT, GTO, GTO2, and their new VPUs."

See here: http://www.hexus.net/content/beanz/b...lld19JRD0xNTY4

Is the wrong, or should this article indicate use of a GTO (not 2)?

If it is the standard GTO this mod applies to, is this the product?:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/produ...s.php?gpid=119

The clocks and pipeline #s match the card in this article.

thedivinehairband · Sep 16, 2005, 02:18 PM

Sounds interesting that does. This could change things when the GTO2 is released. There may be the possibility of using that BIOS to unlock the remaining pipes on the GT card.
Don't you all just love the naming systems. Gets more confusing all the time.

W1zzard · Sep 16, 2005, 04:40 PM

hexus is wrong all GTO products are 12p

the GTO and the GTO² are different products. As far as I know, the GTO can not be modded.

Sep 16, 2005, 07:29 PM

"hexus is wrong all GTO products are 12p"

They say, the GTO ist a 12 pipeline version of the GT and they say that the GTO2 is 16 pipelines anyway.
btw, I have problems finding a Sapphire GTO2 card too. On Sapphiretech I can only find a X800 GTO and a X800 GTO Ultimate...

thedivinehairband · Sep 17, 2005, 12:26 AM

Reckon most of these GTO thingy's arent in the market yet. Give the companies some time to get the stock in and then we shall see whats called what and what it does. I hate all these fancy numbers. why don't manufacturers just use the core number and the frequencies. that way we all know what we are getting!!

W1zzard · Sep 17, 2005, 06:47 AM

the gto² is 12 pipelines .. believe word of mouth (hexus) or a person who actually used as card? anyway, next week we should see more gto² reviews from other sites

Sep 17, 2005, 11:26 AM

Understood that X800GT's aren't softlocked, however the X800RX (Club 3D's version of the X800GT with a guaranteed R480 core) is, apparently. In this case, given that the X800RX is essentially a GTO with 8 pipleines and 2.0ns memory, will the modified GTO bios work with the X800RX?

thedivinehairband · Sep 17, 2005, 12:02 PM

Powercolours X800 GT http://www.powercolor.com/global/mai...tail.asp?id=75 also has a guaranteed r480 core. They also do a GTO but no mention of a GTO2.

Sep 17, 2005, 12:16 PM

Rumours are abound though that Club3D's X800RX is a softlocked GT, whereas Powercolour's and Sapphire's offerings are all lasercut.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&page=2&pp=25

JuiCe · Sep 17, 2005, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

the gto² is 12 pipelines .. believe word of mouth (hexus) or a person who actually used as card? anyway, next week we should see more gto² reviews from other sites

Happy to hear that... but when will we see the cards themselves? I have looked all over the web shops in Germany and I can't find it

W1zzard · Sep 17, 2005, 10:59 PM

i would bet this month

JuiCe · Sep 18, 2005, 12:15 PM

Hmmm GTO2= RADEON X800 GTO ULTIMATE ?

Sep 18, 2005, 01:56 PM

For the regular GT here is a tidbit.

Quote:

In short, IRREGARDLESS of the chip used in the card (R423 or R480), flashing BIOS from X800/X800PRO/X850PRO/X800/X800XL will change nothing or may even aggravate the situation (the number of pipelines may be reduced to 4). That's why the version about ATI's present to overclockers that can be easily modified is a lie. The only thing I haven't tried so far is to weld the broken bridge on the R423. But it turns out that the R423 is running out of stock and nearly all X800GT cards will be equipped with the R480, which are locked inside. Alas, there was no miracle. I guess, X800GT Extreme cards may be launched in future (but using two suffixes - down-grading and up-grading - is an absurd) with unlocked R480 chips. This event is not likely as it may cause the market fall.

Now what concerns overclocking. The samples I've got managed stable operation only at 510-513 MHz. Yep, overclocking is not high. I don't believe when I'm told about such cards running at 560 MHz... Probably for 15-20 minutes. You can manage to complete the tests. And that's it. Under such conditions I managed to run my cards even at 540 MHz (at the core), but only for an hour... Then the cards came to halt... That's no overclocking. What I call overclocking is a mode, in which a card may operate for at least 6-8 hours in succession, or even for twenty-four hours

from digilife http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/video/x800-3.html

Sep 18, 2005, 07:16 PM

man I just bought a 6600GT, looks like I'm gonna have to return it and get me one of these

I don't even know why I got an nvidia card, I miss my radeons.

Sep 19, 2005, 01:50 AM

http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/prod...QDFTT69NHW6CE1

Sep 13, 2005, 02:58 PM	#1
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Sep 16, 2005, 02:45 AM	#3
Deathspawner Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlantic Canada Posts: 7 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Awesome find! That must be one of the coolest BIOS flashes ever! __________________ AMD Venice 3200+ @ 2.63GHz, DFI LanParty Ultra-D 2GB (2 * 1GB) OCZ Gold GX PC4000 @ 3-4-3-8 (2.7v), eVGA 7800GT (470/1.12) WD 160GB, LG DVD+RW 16x, Chaintech AV-710

Sep 16, 2005, 03:04 AM	#4
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Sep 15, 2005, 08:42 PM	#2
djbbenn Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,497 (0.84/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 46 Times in 29 Posts System Specs	Nice...could the card just be flashed with a X850 XT PE bios and truned into a X850? Or is a whole different PCB and all? -Dan

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Sep 16, 2005, 07:05 AM	#6
ultimateguest Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	Could you please specify the Product Name or Link of that Sapphire Card? There are 3 different Models available, but none with the Nameing Extension GTO² all are named GTO. http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/?...bote+anzeigen+ Please help, to clarify which card to buy .... Thanks in advance... regards ultimate

Sep 16, 2005, 07:42 AM	#7
W1zzard Benevolent Dictator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 13,786 (4.18/day) Thanks: 184 Thanked 10,257 Times in 3,173 Posts System Specs	the gto² will shortly appear at resellers it uses the x850 pro heatsink .. the big one, but one slot

Sep 16, 2005, 08:10 AM	#8
thedivinehairband Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Horsham, England Posts: 177 (0.06/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	Does this same type of mod apply to the x800gt? it has the same core but only 8 pipelines activated. if so that would be totally awesome!!!!!! __________________ The Divine Hairband - Bringing lunacy to the world since 1985!!

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Sep 16, 2005, 08:53 AM	#9
thedivinehairband Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Horsham, England Posts: 177 (0.06/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	Bit more research done and I have found that the Powercolour X800 GT contains the r480 core and overclocks very nicely!!! Perhaps a bios update could get this working with all 16 lovely pipelines!!! __________________ The Divine Hairband - Bringing lunacy to the world since 1985!! Last edited by thedivinehairband; Sep 16, 2005 at 10:24 AM.

Sep 16, 2005, 12:16 PM	#10
W1zzard Benevolent Dictator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 13,786 (4.18/day) Thanks: 184 Thanked 10,257 Times in 3,173 Posts System Specs	it does not work on the gt as far as i know

Sep 16, 2005, 01:49 PM	#11
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	Hexus.net is reporting that the GTO2 is a 16 pipe card at stock settings: "Other news we are hearing is that ATI love their GT brand so much there will be the GTO and GTO2 launched very soon. Essentially the GTO is a 12 pipeline GT, and GTO2 is X800XL (16 pipeline GT). They have decided that the XL and 850s will be gone for good. So the new lineup will be X800GT, GTO, GTO2, and their new VPUs." See here: http://www.hexus.net/content/beanz/b...lld19JRD0xNTY4 Is the wrong, or should this article indicate use of a GTO (not 2)? If it is the standard GTO this mod applies to, is this the product?: http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/produ...s.php?gpid=119 The clocks and pipeline #s match the card in this article.

Sep 16, 2005, 02:18 PM	#12
thedivinehairband Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Horsham, England Posts: 177 (0.06/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	Sounds interesting that does. This could change things when the GTO2 is released. There may be the possibility of using that BIOS to unlock the remaining pipes on the GT card. Don't you all just love the naming systems. Gets more confusing all the time. __________________ The Divine Hairband - Bringing lunacy to the world since 1985!!

Sep 16, 2005, 04:40 PM	#13
W1zzard Benevolent Dictator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 13,786 (4.18/day) Thanks: 184 Thanked 10,257 Times in 3,173 Posts System Specs	hexus is wrong all GTO products are 12p the GTO and the GTO² are different products. As far as I know, the GTO can not be modded.

Sep 16, 2005, 07:29 PM	#14
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	"hexus is wrong all GTO products are 12p" They say, the GTO ist a 12 pipeline version of the GT and they say that the GTO2 is 16 pipelines anyway. btw, I have problems finding a Sapphire GTO2 card too. On Sapphiretech I can only find a X800 GTO and a X800 GTO Ultimate...

Sep 17, 2005, 12:26 AM	#15
thedivinehairband Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Horsham, England Posts: 177 (0.06/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	Reckon most of these GTO thingy's arent in the market yet. Give the companies some time to get the stock in and then we shall see whats called what and what it does. I hate all these fancy numbers. why don't manufacturers just use the core number and the frequencies. that way we all know what we are getting!! __________________ The Divine Hairband - Bringing lunacy to the world since 1985!!

Sep 17, 2005, 06:47 AM	#16
W1zzard Benevolent Dictator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 13,786 (4.18/day) Thanks: 184 Thanked 10,257 Times in 3,173 Posts System Specs	the gto² is 12 pipelines .. believe word of mouth (hexus) or a person who actually used as card? anyway, next week we should see more gto² reviews from other sites

Sep 17, 2005, 11:26 AM	#17
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	Understood that X800GT's aren't softlocked, however the X800RX (Club 3D's version of the X800GT with a guaranteed R480 core) is, apparently. In this case, given that the X800RX is essentially a GTO with 8 pipleines and 2.0ns memory, will the modified GTO bios work with the X800RX?

Sep 17, 2005, 12:02 PM	#18
thedivinehairband Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Horsham, England Posts: 177 (0.06/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	Powercolours X800 GT http://www.powercolor.com/global/mai...tail.asp?id=75 also has a guaranteed r480 core. They also do a GTO but no mention of a GTO2. __________________ The Divine Hairband - Bringing lunacy to the world since 1985!!

Sep 17, 2005, 12:16 PM	#19
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	Rumours are abound though that Club3D's X800RX is a softlocked GT, whereas Powercolour's and Sapphire's offerings are all lasercut. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&page=2&pp=25

Sep 17, 2005, 10:59 PM	#21
W1zzard Benevolent Dictator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 13,786 (4.18/day) Thanks: 184 Thanked 10,257 Times in 3,173 Posts System Specs	i would bet this month

Sep 18, 2005, 12:15 PM	#22
JuiCe Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hmmm GTO2= RADEON X800 GTO ULTIMATE ?

Sep 18, 2005, 07:16 PM	#24
grtek Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	man I just bought a 6600GT, looks like I'm gonna have to return it and get me one of these I don't even know why I got an nvidia card, I miss my radeons.

Sep 19, 2005, 01:50 AM	#25
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