what should i pick

Corduroy_Jr · Dec 1, 2009, 05:17 PM

I'm looking to upgrade one part for old rig which is in my specs, i only have $150 to play with seems how I'm flat out broke due to buying family & friends gift's for xmas

am2+ am3 motherboard that would officially support my Athlon II 240
used 8800gt/9800gt that i can grab for $80 to run sli
used p2 720BE a can get for $100

I'm aiming for more speed, tnx guys

Arrakis+9 · Dec 1, 2009, 05:22 PM

Use this as your boot drive and you'll get a serious performance upgrade

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227393

Corduroy_Jr · Dec 1, 2009, 05:26 PM

boot times loading windows & games yes, but overall that wouldn't do me any justice for actual speed

JrRacinFan · Dec 1, 2009, 05:28 PM

The 8800GT if you game alot. Any problems OCing your 240 on the current board and is it fast enuff for your use?

Dec 1, 2009, 05:31 PM

If you play whit high resolutions buy the 8800gt

Corduroy_Jr · Dec 1, 2009, 05:35 PM

i do game alot, all games run fast except for gta iv & some what crysis, only odd cold boot that it crashes then reboots itself, after that work all is good, i have no stability issue's with holding a stable overclock of 3.6ghz, have anothier question would my psu be able to handle to cards, i ran sli with same psu before, but i had alot less things hooked up

Corduroy_Jr · Dec 1, 2009, 05:35 PM

1600x1200 & 1280x1024

ToTTenTranz · Dec 1, 2009, 05:42 PM

1 - Sell your Athlon II for $40 - You now have $190.
2 - Sell your 8800GT for $60 - You now have $250
3 - Sell your Scythe Musashi for $25 - You now have $275
4 - Buy an Athlon II X4 620 for $100 - You now have $175
5 - Buy a HD5770 for $175 (with the older, better cooler)- You now have a tremendously faster system, with an up-to-date DX11 card and a quad-core.

Corduroy_Jr · Dec 1, 2009, 05:43 PM

come on guys need your thought's, cause i want to buy this today

Corduroy_Jr · Dec 1, 2009, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTTenTranz

1 - Sell your Athlon II for $40 - You now have $190.
2 - Sell your 8800GT for $60 - You now have $250
3 - Sell your Scythe Musashi for $25 - You now have $275
4 - Buy an Athlon II X4 620 for $100 - You now have $175
5 - Buy a HD5770 for $175 (with the older, better cooler)- You now have a tremendously faster system, with an up-to-date DX11 card and a quad-core.

i can buy a used 720be for $100 flat, which is better then the 620
the rest u stated makes sense tnx

ToTTenTranz · Dec 1, 2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corduroy_Jr

i can buy a used 720be for $100 flat, which is better then the 620
the rest u stated makes sense tnx

Assuming you'll never unlock the 4th core with that board, I'd say the Athlon II X4 is still better for FSB overclocking.

But both are about equally good for gaming.

Corduroy_Jr · Dec 1, 2009, 05:53 PM

actually I'm planning on to replace my current m2n sli-deluxe in the near future, so if i do get the 720be, i will be getting a board with ati chipset to unlock extra core

Zubasa · Dec 1, 2009, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corduroy_Jr

i can buy a used 720be for $100 flat, which is better then the 620
the rest u stated makes sense tnx

Why buy a used 720BE for $100 when you can buy a new 620 for less?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corduroy_Jr

actually I'm planning on to replace my current m2n sli-deluxe in the near future, so if i do get the 720be, i will be getting a board with ati chipset to unlock extra core

Eh, you have about the same chance on unlocking the extra L3 cache on the 620.

Corduroy_Jr · Dec 1, 2009, 05:54 PM

or should i just hold out, by i new board for now or 8800gt, cause i really want to get a p2 955

Corduroy_Jr · Dec 1, 2009, 05:57 PM

i heard the new 620/630 are not denabs no more, there Propus

Corduroy_Jr · Dec 1, 2009, 05:58 PM

actually where i live x4 620 is going for $112

Zubasa · Dec 1, 2009, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corduroy_Jr

i heard the new 620/630 are not denabs no more, there Propus

It is base on chance just like unlocking the 720BE.

I got a 620 for my friend last week and it unlocked

Looks like AMD put in some Denebs on purpose:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=109401

Dec 1, 2009, 06:00 PM

GTA IV need a fast cpu, i dont like GTA... so i would buy another vga for sli

Corduroy_Jr · Dec 1, 2009, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zubasa

It is base on chance just like unlocking the 720BE.

I got a 620 for my friend last week and it unlocked

nice

, was it a denab though what board does he have

Zubasa · Dec 1, 2009, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corduroy_Jr

nice

, was it a denab though what board does he have

Well the only AM3 chip with an L3 is the Deneb

His board is the GA-MA790XT-UD4P.

Corduroy_Jr · Dec 1, 2009, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vnl7

GTA IV need a fast cpu, i dont like GTA... so i would buy another vga for sli

yep both cores in gtv are almost at max, pull 51fps on avg with built in benchmark though not sure how good that is

Corduroy_Jr · Dec 1, 2009, 06:04 PM

what would two 8800gt's compare too, i heard is close to a gtx 280 or hd 4890

ToTTenTranz · Dec 1, 2009, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zubasa

It is base on chance just like unlocking the 720BE.

I got a 620 for my friend last week and it unlocked

Well, it's not exactly the same probability..

You buy a 720BE. All of them have the 4th core, but not all of them will stay stable with the 4th core activated.

You buy a 620. Not all of them have the L3 cache. If you have luck of getting one with the L3 cache, there's also the probability of it being unstable with the L3 cache activated.

I'd say the probability of unlocking a 4th core in the 720BE is a lot bigger than finding a 620 with "good" L3 cache.

Zubasa · Dec 1, 2009, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTTenTranz

Well, it's not exactly the same probability..

You buy a 720BE. All of them have the 4th core, but not all of them will stay stable with the 4th core activated.

You buy a 620. Not all of them have the L3 cache. If you have luck of getting one with the L3 cache, there's also the probability of it being unstable with the L3 cache activated.

I'd say the probability of unlocking a 4th core in the 720BE is a lot bigger than finding a 620 with "good" L3 cache.

Well the problem of an unstable Core is much greater than an unstable cache.
The 720BE even all of them are Deneb, many of them don't unlock at all.
And the ones that are unlocked aren't always stable.

ToTTenTranz · Dec 1, 2009, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corduroy_Jr

what would two 8800gt's compare too, i heard is close to a gtx 280 or hd 4890

When memory isn't a concern, it compares to a GTX275 or a HD4890.

However, if we're dealing with 512MB cards here, I would strongly suggest against doing the SLI.

Mainly if you value GTA4, that game depends a lot on video memory for increased quality.

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