might buy a q9550 (@ MC $160) have a few questions (might apply 2 all 45nm quads?)

smashed_99cbr · Jan 7, 2010, 12:31 AM

I am thinking about getting a q9550 from microcenter for $160... I see a lot of people doing this lately...

I cant seem to get a straight answer about a few things

question 1: what is a safe max temp for this CPU? (or 45nm quads in general)

question 2: what is a safe Vtt/CPU termination for this CPU?

question 3: what is a safe voltage

I understand that this is not going to be definitive and that it comes down to a lot of things...

btw I am on water right now and can keep an x3210 (kentsfield G0) @ 3.2 below 45c at all times... thats the cooling system I plan to use)

erocker · Jan 7, 2010, 12:41 AM

1. 95c

2. Depends on the motherboard possibly?

3. 1.35v is Intel's recommended maximum voltage.

smashed_99cbr · Jan 7, 2010, 12:49 AM

i know on the old x3210 when i was going for big FSB numbers I would commonly push it to 1.5v+ but that was 65nm...

DirectorC · Jan 7, 2010, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by smashed_99cbr

i know on the old x3210 when i was going for big FSB numbers I would commonly push it to 1.5v+ but that was 65nm...

Just because '1.35v is Intel's recommended maximum voltage' doesn't mean you can't push 1.5+ volts through the chip, just that you should know it will lower its lifetime (and possibly damage it, but that's a risk we all run into when doing extreme overclocking, it should be no problem for you running water).

erocker · Jan 7, 2010, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirectorC

Just because '1.35v is Intel's recommended maximum voltage' doesn't mean you can't push 1.5+ volts through the chip, just that you should know it will lower its lifetime (and possibly damage it, but that's a risk we all run into when doing extreme overclocking, it should be no problem for you running water).

I have an old E8400 Core 2 that disagree's with you.

You are correct though, it's always a risk.

EastCoasthandle · Jan 7, 2010, 01:21 AM

That's one heck of a price for a Q9550. Don't walk RUN before they are out of stock!

assaulter_99 · Jan 7, 2010, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by EastCoasthandle

That's one heck of a price for a Q9550. Don't walk RUN before they are out of stock!

Pheeew! What a price! Where I live it costs $300!

EastCoasthandle · Jan 7, 2010, 01:33 AM

I just checked my local Microcenter and they want $230.

smashed_99cbr · Jan 7, 2010, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by EastCoasthandle

I just checked my local Microcenter and they want $230.

i see that... I got the sales guy to hold it for me at that price(technically the sale ended, but I am cool with him)

so I picked it up anyways...

its not bad... so far

on Giga ep45-ud3p

will these setting be 24/7 ok?

4.25GHz @ 1.365v
max temp 81c on full load
idles @ lower 30's C

cpu term @ 1.38

MCH core 1.48v (on active cooling)

smashed_99cbr · Jan 7, 2010, 10:09 PM

so can I run the above listed settings 24/7 ?

DirectorC · Jan 7, 2010, 10:32 PM

looks fine. u can play with lower volts but if thats the min u can give for stability it looks fine

niko084 · Jan 7, 2010, 11:26 PM

Buy it, you will be glad you did..

I went from a x3210 @ 3.4 to a Q9400 @ 3.6 it wasn't much quicker, sometimes felt a hair slower *cache maybe*

When I dropping in my Q9550 I got that little spunk back and then some more!
Great chip by all means, only thing holding me off an i7.

smashed_99cbr · Jan 7, 2010, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niko084

Buy it, you will be glad you did..

I went from a x3210 @ 3.4 to a Q9400 @ 3.6 it wasn't much quicker, sometimes felt a hair slower *cache maybe*

When I dropping in my Q9550 I got that little spunk back and then some more!
Great chip by all means, only thing holding me off an i7.

I did end up picking it up...

DirectorC · Jan 7, 2010, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smashed_99cbr

I did end up picking it up...

Don't worry, we have several members around here who don't find it necessary to read a thread before replying

overclocking101 · Jan 8, 2010, 12:52 AM

i have run 1.5v through my E8400 E0 the E0 cpu's scale better and are supposed to overclock better as well. I run 1.45V through it 24/7

KieX · Jan 8, 2010, 01:01 AM

Play around with the OC. My Q9550 hits a FSB wall at 470 so I can't go into 4GHz+ 24/7 without going over the magical safety net of 1.365v

I didn't find any significant difference in games one you go over 3.7GHz, and at 3.9GHz I hit my sweet spot between voltage and speed.

They are known to do much better as well of course, only some time overclocking and tweaking will tell. Good luck

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smashed_99cbr Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 317 (0.20/day) Thanks: 37 Thanked 54 Times in 38 Posts	i know on the old x3210 when i was going for big FSB numbers I would commonly push it to 1.5v+ but that was 65nm...

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smashed_99cbr Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 317 (0.20/day) Thanks: 37 Thanked 54 Times in 38 Posts	so can I run the above listed settings 24/7 ?

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