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Old Jan 16, 2010, 02:46 PM   #26
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Good News! There is no suspicious process! Your process is clear from infection....
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Old Jan 16, 2010, 03:31 PM   #27
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Good News! There is no suspicious process! Your process is clear from infection....
Not so sure. Check out one of the svchost processes. It uses over 100mb memory. You can never know what is really inside them due to windows's stupid process package system. I;ve never seen a svchost process use up so much memory...

Useful link on the subject: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tuto...torial129.html

Basically go into task manager, right clock that fat svchost process and select go to service(s) and it will highlight the services that run under it. Check out what eats up so much memory and if it isn't a crucial process stop it. My bet is that it's some crapware from toshiba themselves.
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I had a problem with windows 7 booting slow with msdn copy, it was a service booting that sucked the memory dry but didn't actually show the memory was missing and didn't appear in task manager.
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The 100 MB process is Desktop Window Manager Service, (I have aero enabled)

This isn't a virus problem I did a clean install 4 times.
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Old Jan 16, 2010, 03:50 PM   #30
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Definitely go through and disable all the unnecessary services (like HalfAHertz recommended) that you're not using if you haven't already. For example, I disable the print spooler service and all the MCE and Windows Media related BS.
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Ehh how many windows do you have open at the same time, 50+ ? 100mb is too much methinks. Plus there should be a dedicated process for that called dwm.exe
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Old Jan 16, 2010, 04:07 PM   #32
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When I disabling Aero, the 100 MB process disapears...
I tried to boot in diagnostic mode, only 20 seconds faster, so 1:37
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Old Jan 16, 2010, 04:16 PM   #33
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I have a Toshiba Satellite A500 Laptop:

Intel C2D 2,5 GHz
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I have Windows 7 Pro X64 Genuine OS, via MSDNAA

The boot takes 17-21 seconds to welcome screen (20-30 seconds "Welcome"), then 1-3 minutes to responsive desktop.
I have all drivers installed, I tried to boot removing unnecessary startup programs, but It's the same, only 1-5 second faster.
I reinstalled my OS many times, HDD is in AHCI mode, but I tried in "Compatibility" but didn't solve the problem.
After bootlogo, there is very high HDD activity (With disabled search indexer and superfetch too)
Try turning it from AHCI to SATA mode, see if that helps.
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Heh 20s sounds like an improovement

Could you press winkey+r and type msconfig, then go to the startup tab and take a screenshot? I just want to double check the startup processes. Something like this:
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Try another hdd. Maybe yours has too many relocated sectors. Disable all your network hardware also and try.
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Check out one of the svchost processes. It uses over 100mb memorycial process stop it.
Use skype, WoW, utorrent with some 15 torrents, sit in firefox, and you will see even more. That svchost deals with network, its normal.
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Use skype, WoW, utorrent with some 15 torrents, sit in firefox, and you will see even more. That svchost deals with network, its normal.
You could be right, tho I use all of the forementioned and have never experienced such high memory usage from a single svchost process. Especially on a fresh boot.
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I can set to AHCI and Compatiblity mode, no SATA entry.

In Msconfig/startup: Realtek HD Audio Manager, Kaspersky Anti-Virus, ATi Catalyst, Toshiba HDD Protection Service, Toshiba Power Saver, Toshiba Flashcards Utility
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I'm almost postitive your problem is likely something that you have installed and starting up after you log in, because even my netbook is pretty much usable right away after I enter my password.

And 100MB+ is not uncommon for a svchost, my desktop has one that is taking up almost 200MB, something related to the audio on my machine, but it can be a lot of things.
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But in diagnostic mode "welcome" process is takes 32 seconds with constant (high) HDD activity.
And I installed 4 times a bad program?
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Remove the ticks besides all Toshiba software from within msconfig. I'm 99% sure the toshiba HDD thingie is doing something it's not supposed to. You don't need any of the Toshiba programs to use your PC. They only add "value" a.k.a. useless functions, you'll probably never need or can access through windows itself.

Edit: Guys seriously if a svchost shell is taking more than ~50MB, you either: 1)need to restart your machine more than once a fortnight or 2) have a hidden memory hog.
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Remove the ticks besides all Toshiba software from within msconfig. I'm 99% sure the toshiba HDD thingie is doing something it's not supposed to. You don't need any of the Toshiba programs to use your PC. They only add "value" a.k.a. useless functions, you'll probably never need or can access through windows itself.

Edit: Guys seriously if a svchost shell is taking more than ~50MB, you either: 1)need to restart your machine more than once a fortnight or 2) have a hidden memory hog.
SVChost can use hundreds of MB's if it wants to. it just means that you personally dont do much networking/audio wise compared to us.



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I have a Toshiba Satellite A500 Laptop:

Intel C2D 2,5 GHz
4GB DDRII 800 MHz RAM
400 GB 5400rpm Toshiba HDD
ATi 4650 GPU

I have Windows 7 Pro X64 Genuine OS, via MSDNAA

The boot takes 17-21 seconds to welcome screen (20-30 seconds "Welcome"), then 1-3 minutes to responsive desktop.
I have all drivers installed, I tried to boot removing unnecessary startup programs, but It's the same, only 1-5 second faster.
I reinstalled my OS many times, HDD is in AHCI mode, but I tried in "Compatibility" but didn't solve the problem.
After bootlogo, there is very high HDD activity (With disabled search indexer and superfetch too)
Try "Ask Toshiba";

http://www.justanswer.com/brands/Tos...FRMqagod_3Io0w
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Hmm to be honest I haven't done much observation on 64-bit mem usage, and I do know for a fact that they use more mem than 32-bit ones. You're probably right. Still looking at my current mem usage, if it spikes suddenly like in your SS, I'd freak out
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Every time I encountered an excruciatingly long boot time was because of a bad driver (most likely searching for device which it can't find causing the system to hang). Printers are a common culprit but anything on USB could (including integrated keyboard and mouse).

I would set all keyboards and mice to use the standard Microsoft DLLs and uninstall printers. That should clear up the problem.



svchost.exe is an executable that runs code in libaries (DLLs). It also monitors services which are their own executables (e.g. ups.exe). Everything running under services.msc is represented by one of the svchosts.
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I have this problem too ;S
And i dont think its anything to do with my system specs haha.
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HDD protection software is a driver for the shock sensor, and its recomended to install, but without it the boot time is the same...

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Good day bro! have you tried loading default settings in the BIOS section and see if it makes any difference? if not then, would there be a BIOS update for your toshiba model in the toshiba website? If there is, please try updating your BIOS version to the latest one. Just did a BIOS update on my friend's Satellite A135 and I noticed a considerable improvement in the laptop's booth times! Im not guaranteeing though that this would also work on your laptoip but I hope it helps!
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Yes, Toshiba released 2 updates, last 2 weeks ago, but no change...
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Yes, Toshiba released 2 updates, last 2 weeks ago, but no change...
have you tried the drivers i linked to yet?
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