My Windows 7 Start is Extremly SLOW - Page 3

Szaby59 · Jan 17, 2010, 11:25 AM

Yes, and I uninstalled all Toshiba apps and HDD protection Software, no improvement...

HalfAHertz · Jan 17, 2010, 11:31 AM

I'm seriously running thin on ideas. Try what FordGT suggested? Also if it is indeed a HDD/Network issue, you could maybe set up Windows Resource Manager to start at boot and look out for any weird HDD/Network activity.

neoreif · Jan 17, 2010, 11:33 AM

would you kindly check your BIOS version please? is it the 1.70?

Lillebror · Jan 17, 2010, 11:53 AM

Umm.. I saw in a earlier post, that you have SuperFetch Dissabled.. Why? it helps with your boot speed

- http://www.osnews.com/story/21471/Su...it_Works_Myths

Szaby59 · Jan 17, 2010, 11:58 AM

I have enabled but I read it can cause the constant HDD activity at boot time.

My BIOS is 1.50, European products don't have 1.70, yet.

neoreif · Jan 17, 2010, 12:43 PM

I see... hmmn? Running out of ideas here too!

What about your power settings for the laptop? Is it in the High power setting?

newtekie1 · Jan 17, 2010, 01:03 PM

What are the boots times on a completely fresh install, no drivers or anything installed? If it's a lot better, start installing one driver at a time, rebooting after each one and see which is causing the issue.

Szaby59 · Jan 17, 2010, 01:19 PM

Yes, High performance.
But I think the laptop HDD is not in maximum performance mode (is there any app to manage HDD power saving setting?)
The experience index score is only 5,3, my old Maxtor ATA HDD gets 5,4.
In the resource monitor svchost generates the most HDD load.

neoreif · Jan 17, 2010, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Szaby59

Yes, High performance.
But I think the laptop HDD is not in maximum performance mode (is there any app to manage HDD power saving setting?)
The experience index score is only 5,3, my old Maxtor ATA HDD gets 5,4.
In the resource monitor svchost generates the most HDD load.

Umm, can you please provide me the exact model no of your laptop? Is it an exclusive release for the european market?

newtekie1 · Jan 17, 2010, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Szaby59

Yes, High performance.
But I think the laptop HDD is not in maximum performance mode (is there any app to manage HDD power saving setting?)
The experience index score is only 5,3, my old Maxtor ATA HDD gets 5,4.
In the resource monitor svchost generates the most HDD load.

5.3 is perfectly normal for a laptop drive, actually it is a little above normal for a 5400RPM drive. My 500GB in my netbook only scores a 5.4, and it is one of the fastest 5400RPM drives you can put in a laptop.

Mussels · Jan 17, 2010, 01:42 PM

have a look what your settings are like in device manager, see if they're similar to mine

dr emulator (madmax) · Jan 17, 2010, 01:44 PM

err have you any antivirus software (i know some don't have any

) try malwarebytes from here at tpu link here

Szaby59 · Jan 17, 2010, 01:51 PM

Yes, Write cache is enabled.
My Model: Toshiba Satellite A500-132 (PSAM3E)
Yesterday I did a clean install, now I have Win7 Ultimate x86, a bit faster but I think it's because the x64 needs more data to load, this boots 1:32

InnocentCriminal · Jan 17, 2010, 01:59 PM

You stated that the HDD was a 5,400 RPM drive, could it also be that the drive is SATA 1.5Gbps instead of 3. My boot times are getting close to 1 minute now that I'm back onto a 16MB cached HDD. I can't help but think you're worrying over nothing.

Szaby59 · Jan 17, 2010, 02:00 PM

But my boot with x64 OS close to 3 minute...

InnocentCriminal · Jan 17, 2010, 02:01 PM

I thought you said it was 1:32?

Mussels · Jan 17, 2010, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InnocentCriminal

I thought you said it was 1:32?

with win 7 x86

InnocentCriminal · Jan 17, 2010, 02:13 PM

Arrrrh, I see.

HalfAHertz · Jan 17, 2010, 02:21 PM

I get similar boot times(~1min30sec) with win 7 x86 on my toshiba. Don't think you can get much lower than that, I run a pretty clean setup.

Tyrael · Jan 17, 2010, 02:45 PM

Windows 7 = Resource hog = same as its children: Windows Vista!

neoreif · Jan 17, 2010, 02:58 PM

umm... can you navigate to this registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\msahci\Controller0

please tell me if you see any "DIPM" entry there.

Mussels · Jan 17, 2010, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neoreif

umm... can you navigate to this registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\msahci\Controller0

please tell me if you see any "DIPM" entry there.

That wasnt aimed at me, but i checked anyway: i dont even have that controller0 erm, 'folder' present in mine

neoreif · Jan 17, 2010, 03:08 PM

Sorry Mussels but that was for our thread starter! My bad!

The DIPM registry key is usually found in laptop systems with power management in their HDDs. I checked with mine too and i also have none!

Live OR Die · Jan 17, 2010, 03:08 PM

i had this problem to but when using a ext harddrive with e-sata its to do with your IDE ATA/ATAPI / STORAGE CONTROLLERS , Windows will read the hole drive before starting and it will lagging your system when running aswell, depending on your laptop search for the newest drivers it fixed the problem for me, let me know how it goes

http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/t...t/jsp/home.jsp

Mussels · Jan 17, 2010, 03:17 PM

one forgotten possibility: windows defender. Make sure its disabled.

Jan 17, 2010, 11:31 AM	#52
HalfAHertz Join Date: May 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,741 (1.18/day) Thanks: 364 Thanked 350 Times in 252 Posts System Specs	I'm seriously running thin on ideas. Try what FordGT suggested? Also if it is indeed a HDD/Network issue, you could maybe set up Windows Resource Manager to start at boot and look out for any weird HDD/Network activity. __________________ smile or the devil will get in your head and sing karaoke forever...

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Jan 17, 2010, 11:33 AM	#53
neoreif Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Las Islas Filipinas Posts: 297 (0.23/day) Thanks: 389 Thanked 192 Times in 114 Posts System Specs	would you kindly check your BIOS version please? is it the 1.70? __________________ Help change lives of people! Crunch for TPU's WCGTEAM today! "CONTRARIA SUNT COMPLEMENTA"

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Jan 17, 2010, 11:25 AM	#51
Szaby59 Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 27 (0.02/day) Thanks: 11 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Yes, and I uninstalled all Toshiba apps and HDD protection Software, no improvement...

Jan 17, 2010, 11:53 AM	#54
Lillebror Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Denmark Posts: 679 (0.32/day) Thanks: 34 Thanked 90 Times in 73 Posts System Specs	Umm.. I saw in a earlier post, that you have SuperFetch Dissabled.. Why? it helps with your boot speed - http://www.osnews.com/story/21471/Su...it_Works_Myths

Jan 17, 2010, 11:58 AM	#55
Szaby59 Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 27 (0.02/day) Thanks: 11 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I have enabled but I read it can cause the constant HDD activity at boot time. My BIOS is 1.50, European products don't have 1.70, yet.

Jan 17, 2010, 12:43 PM	#56
neoreif Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Las Islas Filipinas Posts: 297 (0.23/day) Thanks: 389 Thanked 192 Times in 114 Posts System Specs	I see... hmmn? Running out of ideas here too! What about your power settings for the laptop? Is it in the High power setting? __________________ Help change lives of people! Crunch for TPU's WCGTEAM today! "CONTRARIA SUNT COMPLEMENTA"

Jan 17, 2010, 01:03 PM	#57
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Jan 17, 2010, 01:19 PM	#58
Szaby59 Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 27 (0.02/day) Thanks: 11 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Yes, High performance. But I think the laptop HDD is not in maximum performance mode (is there any app to manage HDD power saving setting?) The experience index score is only 5,3, my old Maxtor ATA HDD gets 5,4. In the resource monitor svchost generates the most HDD load.

Jan 17, 2010, 01:42 PM	#61
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Jan 17, 2010, 01:51 PM	#63
Szaby59 Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 27 (0.02/day) Thanks: 11 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Yes, Write cache is enabled. My Model: Toshiba Satellite A500-132 (PSAM3E) Yesterday I did a clean install, now I have Win7 Ultimate x86, a bit faster but I think it's because the x64 needs more data to load, this boots 1:32

Jan 17, 2010, 01:59 PM	#64
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Jan 17, 2010, 02:00 PM	#65
Szaby59 Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 27 (0.02/day) Thanks: 11 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	But my boot with x64 OS close to 3 minute...

Jan 17, 2010, 02:01 PM	#66
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Jan 17, 2010, 02:21 PM	#69
HalfAHertz Join Date: May 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,741 (1.18/day) Thanks: 364 Thanked 350 Times in 252 Posts System Specs	I get similar boot times(~1min30sec) with win 7 x86 on my toshiba. Don't think you can get much lower than that, I run a pretty clean setup. __________________ smile or the devil will get in your head and sing karaoke forever...

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Jan 17, 2010, 02:58 PM	#71
neoreif Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Las Islas Filipinas Posts: 297 (0.23/day) Thanks: 389 Thanked 192 Times in 114 Posts System Specs	umm... can you navigate to this registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\msahci\Controller0 please tell me if you see any "DIPM" entry there. __________________ Help change lives of people! Crunch for TPU's WCGTEAM today! "CONTRARIA SUNT COMPLEMENTA"

Jan 17, 2010, 03:08 PM	#73
neoreif Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Las Islas Filipinas Posts: 297 (0.23/day) Thanks: 389 Thanked 192 Times in 114 Posts System Specs	Sorry Mussels but that was for our thread starter! My bad! The DIPM registry key is usually found in laptop systems with power management in their HDDs. I checked with mine too and i also have none! __________________ Help change lives of people! Crunch for TPU's WCGTEAM today! "CONTRARIA SUNT COMPLEMENTA"

Jan 17, 2010, 03:08 PM	#74
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Jan 17, 2010, 03:17 PM	#75
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