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Old Dec 25, 2010, 05:14 AM   #9751
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and never mind im not even gonna bother playing Bad Company 2 cant find a single server that DOSENT lag ever since Vietnam expansion it keeps getting worse out of 15 servers today not a single one was playable

litterally people standing in place running for 3-5 seconds just running in mid air only to appear 30 feet away again and the rubber banding is terrible for awhile there after the new maps things got better less lag now its just totally unplayable
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Old Dec 25, 2010, 05:15 AM   #9752
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lol nice one rad ed but oh wait rhino sold that PC the server was hosted on like 3 months ago oops kinda hard to use teamspeak on an imaginary server

also if you want to add me its Crazyeyesreaper rank = 32 should be easy enough to find me

and i already got Wrigley on my list but i opened up 2 out of the 20 slots for ppl

anyway ill be in game trying to find a damn server since every tom dick and larry playes Nam now lol only got laggy pos servers left
Hmm, Who's server am I on now then?

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and never mind im not even gonna bother playing Bad Company 2 cant find a single server that DOSENT lag ever since Vietnam expansion it keeps getting worse out of 15 servers today not a single one was playable
Not sure that many people that play will miss the raging. you are a good player when you aren't throwing a fit, and I like you otherwise. But dang dude... you whine a lot.
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Old Dec 25, 2010, 05:17 AM   #9753
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dude i just played a round where i ran from flag A to flag C on oasis and rubber banded all the way back to Flag A and then magicaly died

and i just tried rhinos server it failed to connect so obviously he set up a new one but i was never informed of it or told the info probably due to rage lol

i just cant understand why every game i play online including shitty F2P mmo FPS games have better latency and less lag rubber banding etc then Bad Company 2 my issues are central to just that game
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Old Dec 25, 2010, 05:19 AM   #9754
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dude i just played a round where i ran from flag A to flag C on oasis and rubber banded all the way back to Flag A and then magicaly died

and i just tried rhinos server it failed to connect so obviously he set up a new one but i was never informed of it or told the info probably due to rage lol
Pretty sure that's your own problem. rather sure it's your ISP as others have said.
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Hmm, Who's server am I on now then?
Rhino setup a new TS and didn't tell me? I will deal with this.....the hard way.
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Old Dec 25, 2010, 05:25 AM   #9756
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i highly doubt its my internet i really dont thing a 155ms ping hell even up to 300ms should have me going from 1 flag to the next especially when all the ping tests show 0 packet loss


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Whet you whistle for some Operation Hastings gameplay.

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i highly doubt its my internet i really dont thing a 155ms ping hell even up to 300ms should have me going from 1 flag to the next especially when all the ping tests show 0 packet loss
Your issue could have been a server side problem. You pick crappy servers run by asshats.

And do I need to point out the obvious discrepancy in your tests. It is fairly obvious that at least one of your DNS servers is garbage. Since your DNS is controlled by location of source and load on the server, it will create the same issue you have in your test. Your location makes your ISP inconsistent. BFBC2 is just making the issue more apparent cause you play it 10 times more than any other FPS and the latency balancer was a bad idea.
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Old Dec 25, 2010, 05:32 AM   #9759
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yea but numbers in general are consistent the only one out of place is tampa fl otherwise anywhere else in the usa im under 140ms Ping and its not like i have much of a choise on servers either i limit my selection to US server for ping but there very few full servers and the ones i do have a good connection on have shut down or always = 0 ppl

i had hit box issues most of the time up untill the new maps after the new maps hit detection got worse for awhile then improved a bit toward the end once Nam released everything went down the shitter again

for the record Operation Flashpoint Dragon rising which has shitty multiplayer has less issues then BC2 for me in terms of latency and its the same 32man setup for the most part granted Flashpoint has so many hackers its unenjoyable but thats different alltogether havent seen any hacking lately in BC2 just lots of lag

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Where are you guys getting these numbers from? Are you actually calculating this yourselves, or some stat site has it listed?
Calculating them.
hits per kill average=(total number of shots*hit percentage)/kills
All variables are for a given weapon.

I edited my original post because the way I wrote it was a bit misleading. It should have been "average hits per kill" not "average hits to kill a player". The reason is that many of my rounds hit people that I don't actually kill. I don't think I've played a full round that I didn't earn at least one "7 kill assist" badge.

My explanation for the high numbers is really quite obvious. Firstly the bullets don't do a lot of damage, secondly medics are quite common, thirdly engineers are quite common, fourthly I only play in packed 32 player servers where the quantities of each are high. If I were giving data for my knife or something (which maybe I should) it would be very high indeed!

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Well I love BC2:Nam. Close up battles and fast pace. Honestly I like it more then regular BC2.
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I like the new maps in BC2 ... just started playing again lol

I may pick up name what all did they add for name? maps,guns, what?
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Name? You mean Vietnam?

It's a whole new game. Normal mode is like Hardcore in regular BC2.
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Old Dec 25, 2010, 02:36 PM   #9764
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Where are you guys getting these numbers from? Are you actually calculating this yourselves, or some stat site has it listed?
I just looked at stats for my guns. My M60 has 28526 hits and 3305 kills. So 28526/3305 = 8.63 bullets on average to kill someone.
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I just looked at stats for my guns. My M60 has 28526 hits and 3305 kills. So 28526/3305 = 8.63 bullets on average to kill someone.
Well I will play along, but I don't think that is a good way to calculate it. I personal have shot and hit people and had no intent to kill them. Plus I most use the pistols on people I shot with other stuff first, so I am sure its stats will be odd.

Best weapon of each class and my best pistol:

1911A2 => 8304 hits / 1734 kills = 4.79
AN-94 => 18144 hits / 2092 kills = 8.67
GOL => 3892 hits / 1600 kills = 2.43
AK74u => 10444 hits / 1032 kills = 10.12
MG36 => 3626 hits / 366 kills = 9.91

And today's free hint: Automatic shotgun + magnum + sabot slug rounds = FAIL

Using this combo is pointless because you have better options for weapons if you are going to do this. I will simply assume sabot rounds don't reduce damage for this. The auto shotguns do a max of 60 damage. That is a minimum of 2 perfect shots to kill a man. You have a 6 round clip, so if you are perfect you can kill 3 people with one clip. The G3 does 31 damage max, so 4 to kill a man; however, it has a 20 round clip which gives you 5 kills with 1 clip when perfect. Same goes for the Thompson. So if you are going to turn a shotgun into an assault rifle.....just get a real assault rifle.
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wow this game is hard! i can't kill anyone!
I was in the same situation a couple of weeks ago.I guess its hard for everyone to start so long after the game release,since is level - up based and there is a lot and lot of people with very high level and its just pain for newcomer to start..look for servers with NOOB in the name there will be more players with lower levels..If you look for my earlier posts in this thread when I was crying that its hard(sure it is),that was about 2 weeks ago,now Im just reaching level 20,my KDR is 0.93 and I've knived some high level campers I've got around 30 dogtags...I would really advice on thing - dont let the hard start to put you off.soon you will gain confidence.as others suggested,spawn on players or points on the map where is enemy presence,cos you will have a quicker chance to kill(or die ) yeah and one other important advice which I've taken in account and helped me to level up quicker and get better weapons - for start focus on taking objectives rather then killing - for a kill you get 50p + some bonus like 10p for a headshot.while for taking a flag point you get 150p if you are there first or 75p for coming later and assist..much better for leveling up quicker..so spawn on flag poins being taken and you can get very quick 75p
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I personal have shot and hit people and had no intent to kill them.
Now why would you do a thing like that?

I was only posting that to show how many rounds I've been laying down to get kills. I hit a lot of players with suppressing fire that I don't kill. In other games some of those would be kills. I do not like the fact that I can't counter-snipe effectively because it takes 4-5 shots with my only scoped rifle (that isn't a sniper rifle) to kill someone. Counter-sniping with rockets is more effective than using my rifle .

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I was in the same situation a couple of weeks ago.I guess its hard for everyone to start so long after the game release,since is level - up based and there is a lot and lot of people with very high level and its just pain for newcomer to start..look for servers with NOOB in the name there will be more players with lower levels..If you look for my earlier posts in this thread when I was crying that its hard(sure it is),that was about 2 weeks ago,now Im just reaching level 20,my KDR is 0.93 and I've knived some high level campers I've got around 30 dogtags...I would really advice on thing - dont let the hard start to put you off.soon you will gain confidence.as others suggested,spawn on players or points on the map where is enemy presence,cos you will have a quicker chance to kill(or die ) yeah and one other important advice which I've taken in account and helped me to level up quicker and get better weapons - for start focus on taking objectives rather then killing - for a kill you get 50p + some bonus like 10p for a headshot.while for taking a flag point you get 150p if you are there first or 75p for coming later and assist..much better for leveling up quicker..so spawn on flag poins being taken and you can get very quick 75p
I'm just reaching level 9 (with 12 hours of playtime !!!!) and I have 1.4 K/D (463/328) and 18 dog tags. I may be doing decently but thats because I've been playing mostly conquest. I've been working on rush games but the maps are very difficult to figure out and I'm getting absolutely crushed by snipers!! BC2 is definitely a challenging game!

I've got some additional suggestions for Delta6326.

The following things helped me a lot:
-Play conquest maps, they're smaller and easier to figure out (but not Heavy Metal unless you're good in vehicles)
-Join a squad with a high level player then select that player to spawn on, but don't spawn on them. Just observe them, watch where they go, what they shoot at and how they sweep.
-Join empty games and walk/drive through the levels to get a good feel for them. Practice shooting/throwing/launching grenades/rockets/bullets through windows while crouching/walking/standing. Shoot buildings to see how it effects them. Drive all the vehicles (an unused vehicle can ruin your teams victory!!).
-Use the 'M' key to draw up the large map (and press it again to close it). Try to stay on the frontlines under cover at all times.
-Use all the resources on the first post to get good!

Oh and a method for guaranteed ultra gay noob kills:
1. Play MCOM defense on any map.
2. Play as a sniper and place C4 all around one of the MCOM stations.*
3. Wait for someone to try to destroy the MCOM.
4. Blow the C4->Profit
*When placing C4 at an MCOM station do so strategically otherwise you'll hurt your team more than you'll help them.

I've done that lame ass tactic only twice and I got several kills out of it.

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Normal mode is like Hardcore in regular BC2.
I know some of you guys think this and I haven't played a lot of HC myself but I still wouldn't go quite this far. It's definitely different than vanilla...
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rush is pointless and is plagued by snipers, i refuse to play that mode.
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I thought I should mention here that I got some gold tags on my first day playing. Some level 41 guy was being really annoying hiding deep in a house sniping so I waited to push the infantry line past his position than snuck into the house he was camping and stabbed him. He was good enough to hear me even though I was crouching and almost got me as I charged at him. I was doing awful that round but getting him was priceless.

Also I finally got in a round with some actually skilled squad members. I followed them for a change! They were amazing and ran around literally ramboing bases one after the other (my style!). I definitely learned a lot by working with those guys (and I kept up with them rather well).

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It's so true! I've not unlocked the UAV but I would theorize that if there are two equally skilled teams then the only way to win as attacker in rush is to use the UAV to clear out the snipers. In my experience tanks are mostly useless against snipers because they just call in mortar strikes constantly. Nevertheless I play rush anyway, but I try to use the fastest vehicles so I can bring the fight to the snipers doorstep. Assuming my team is at least 10% competent the strategy does have yields though I rarely win against a skilled defending force.

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I finally got the game for myself and a buddy. Couldn't pass up the $6.79 Steam deal. I am still on the sp but will playing vanilla mp when I finish. The sp is awesome! Catch you in mp soon.
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rush is pointless and is plagued by snipers, i refuse to play that mode.
exactly,I hate them too..even if you manage to get to the t-com point without being shot,usually there is several tangos hiding in the building and they shoot you right in the doorway.

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Some level 41 guy was being really annoying hiding deep in a house sniping so I waited to push the infantry line past his position than snuck into the house he was camping and stabbed him. I was doing awful that round but getting him was priceless.
thats so true too...I might not have the best KDR ratio,but its all done with honest hard work without any camping what so ever....its allready clear that lot of high level players(even those with level 50) got their levels with dirty way of playing..camping and so....Im mean Im proud of what I've reached so far,but if I see a bunch of level 30 - 50 idiots on a server for players with level 25 or under slaughtering newbies..thats so noob.If they play on a noob server,they are actually the biggest noobs on it..

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^ C4 is your friend.
I very rarely use c4 on infantry..and recently Im playing just as assault,which if Im right doesnt have c4...?

EDIT: the most ridiculous way of camping I've caught someone recently was hiding and camping in a fire flames at a burning colapsed building (as you might know,fire doesnt hurt you) so you can just duck in it and its not easy to spot someone in it when you are in rush and under fire..so I killed the sucker like 3 times in a row on the same spot..

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I very rarely use c4 on infantry..and recently Im playing just as assault,which if Im right doesnt have c4...?
if you use a non class specific gun with assault, (G3, M1 Garand, Thompson, Any shotgun) you get C4.
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