Battlefield Bad Company 2 Clubhouse

[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by crazyeyesreaper

im just luckily cadaveca helped me out on the motherboard otherwise this wouldnt even be possible

How long did you have to go under the desk for to get this favor?

[crazyeyesreaper]

surprisingly his wife did all the work i just got rewarded with the free motherboard for nothing.

[_JP_]

Oh well...
I could use a new motherboard too.

[Wrigleyvillain]

Originally Posted by crazyeyesreaper

surprisingly his wife did all the work i just got rewarded with the free motherboard for nothing.

Um lol...hope you already have this board!

[crazyeyesreaper]

yea board arrived the other day sitting here in its box looking all sexy

waiting for the case to get shipped upon which ill order the rest of the parts from newegg and they should all arrive the same day.

[Corduroy_Jr]

6850 is not lower end lol

[1Kurgan1]

I think he meant lower end for people who actually have good hardware. 6850 is slightly above a 5850 and I had been running my 2x 5850's since like December of 09. Sure compared to say my parents who run a 2600xt or something, a 6850 is just a massive card, but to most who itch to upgrade, it would be on the lower end list.

[crazyeyesreaper]

actually kurgan 5850s are better then the 6850

6850 < 5850 < 6870 < 5870 < 6950 < 6970 < 5970 < 6870x2 < 6990

[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by crazyeyesreaper

actually kurgan 5850s are better then the 6850

6850 < 5850 < 6870 < 5870 < 6950 < 6970 < 5970 < 6870x2 < 6990

It must be close, are you talking when involving OC? Because I thought both the 6850 and 6970 were slightly better than the 5800's counterparts.

[erocker]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

It must be close, are you talking when involving OC? Because I thought both the 6850 and 6970 were slightly better than the 5800's counterparts.

I think you mean 6950?

6850>5850>6870>5870>6950>6970

[crazyeyesreaper]

5850s will hit 1000 core the larger shader count tends to give them the advantage still

6850 and 6870 have the advantage over the 5850 and 5870 only when in xfire otherwise in a single card shoot out 6850 and 6870 tend to be slightly slower then the 5850 and 5870 respectively

the 5850 extreme from sapphire is also cheaper then every 6850 available at least when its in stock so in reality in my honest a opinion a 6850 is low end simply because its a around 5850 performance and a 5850 can be had for $140 new, via the sapphire extreme edtion so thats low end to me since its pretty much the same price as the mid range 5770s and 6770 6790 gpus and its performance is roughly on equivlent to the high end of 4-5 years ago in a single gpu improvement sure but its been proven to be long in the tooth in many titles coming out,

and as you know those cards performance lvls were only top end almost 4 years ago now, there mainstream gpus for gamers, the highend or considered high end by ppl that buy OEM rigs etc. because there usually about the best you will see unless the price tag skyrockets for no reason

[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by erocker

I think you mean 6950?

6850>5850>6870>5870>6950>6970

I meant 6870. I know the 6900s put a nice gap between either the 6800's or 5800's. But I think you mean

6850<5850<6870<5870<6950<6970

Originally Posted by crazyeyesreaper

5850s will hit 1000 core the larger shader count tends to give them the advantage still

6850 and 6870 have the advantage over the 5850 and 5870 only when in xfire otherwise in a single card shoot out 6850 and 6870 tend to be slightly slower then the 5850 and 5870 respectively

the 5850 extreme from sapphire is also cheaper then every 6850 available so in reality in my honest a opinion a 6850 is low end simply because its a around 5850 performance and a 5850 can be had for $140 new, via the sapphire extreme edtion so thats low end to me since its pretty much the same price as the mid range 5770s and 6770 6790 gpus

and as you know those cards performance lvls were only top end almost 4 years ago now, there mainstream gpus for gamers, the highend or considered high end by ppl that buy OEM rigs etc. because there usually about the best you will see unless the price tag skyrockets for no reason

When taking price into consideration, I would buy whatever is cheaper. I know the performance gap between them is extremely small.

[1Kurgan1]

Also, who's up for some BC2 at about 9 - 9:30pm Central time? Was going to say now, but figure 2 hours will give others time to see this. Going to rest my eyes till then in preparation.

[boise49ers]

Originally Posted by erocker

I think you mean 6950?

6850>5850>6870>5870>6950>6970

Yeah I consider my 6870 middle of the road. I notice nobody even listed the $700 monster
Take that back looks like Crazy did. Man I'd love to have one of those.

[crazyeyesreaper]

why? 2x 6950s are faster better and cheaper lol get the MSI Twin Frozr III PE/ OC edition

out of box its $50 cheaper then a 6970 offers the same performance and runs 25c cooler, also has a chance to unlock and they overclock pretty damn good to boot, honestly wish i had 2 of them over my 6970s

[Wrigleyvillain]

Nope the 5850 is technically more powerful but due to the scaling I sold my 5850 for 6850s instead of buying another (and a rebate netting them for $300 total less than two months after release didn't hurt the decision).

Yeah they aren't actually the low end but they are insofar as what we here would consider the minimal for a decent gaming experience on newer titles. On their own I mean of course, not crossfire.

[Corduroy_Jr]

Originally Posted by crazyeyesreaper

5850s will hit 1000 core the larger shader count tends to give them the advantage still

6850 and 6870 have the advantage over the 5850 and 5870 only when in xfire otherwise in a single card shoot out 6850 and 6870 tend to be slightly slower then the 5850 and 5870 respectively

the 5850 extreme from sapphire is also cheaper then every 6850 available at least when its in stock so in reality in my honest a opinion a 6850 is low end simply because its a around 5850 performance and a 5850 can be had for $140 new, via the sapphire extreme edtion so thats low end to me since its pretty much the same price as the mid range 5770s and 6770 6790 gpus and its performance is roughly on equivlent to the high end of 4-5 years ago in a single gpu improvement sure but its been proven to be long in the tooth in many titles coming out,

and as you know those cards performance lvls were only top end almost 4 years ago now, there mainstream gpus for gamers, the highend or considered high end by ppl that buy OEM rigs etc. because there usually about the best you will see unless the price tag skyrockets for no reason

if i recall correctly last thread u said hd5770 was low end, but now mid end, and for the 6850 its a mid end end plan and simple its a fact

[crazyeyesreaper]

dont start another argument here ill just chase you out of the thread again

for oem rigs 5770s are mid to high in are custom rigs there considered low end difference is in what purpose and who built the rig HP DELL etc will market a 5770 as high end gaming

simple fact is tho

5850 / 6850 is the minimum gpu for gaming now at 1920x1080

but a 5850 extreme from sapphire can be had for the same price as a 5770 or 6770 thus price wise 5850 is low end under the $150 point but offers better performance then anything its price range its a low mid range gpu in a low range price bracket, im not gonna argue with a guy that cant understand logical upgrade choices, and in another thread wanted a guy to piss away his money on a new retail gpu for a rig thats not his instead of using his old gpu as a hand me down and getting double the performance for himself at the same price.

[boise49ers]

Originally Posted by crazyeyesreaper

why? 2x 6950s are faster better and cheaper lol get the MSI Twin Frozr III PE/ OC edition

out of box its $50 cheaper then a 6970 offers the same performance and runs 25c cooler, also has a chance to unlock and they overclock pretty damn good to boot, honestly wish i had 2 of them over my 6970s

One slot, oh and I'm saying I'd like to have it not buy it
Do they have a single slot 6870x2. I'd like one of those also if they have them.

[crazyeyesreaper]

lol well in that case 6990 all the way

[Corduroy_Jr]

Originally Posted by crazyeyesreaper

dont start another argument here ill just chase you out of the thread again

for oem rigs 5770s are mid to high in are custom rigs there considered low end difference is in what purpose and who built the rig HP DELL etc will market a 5770 as high end gaming

simple fact is tho

5850 / 6850 is the minimum gpu for gaming now at 1920x1080

but a 5850 extreme from sapphire can be had for the same price as a 5770 or 6770 thus price wise 5850 is low end under the $150 point but offers better performance then anything its price range its a low mid range gpu in a low range price bracket, im not gonna argue with a guy that cant understand logical upgrade choices, and in another thread wanted a guy to piss away his money on a new retail gpu for a rig thats not his instead of using his old gpu as a hand me down and getting double the performance for himself at the same price.

so in your eyes 5850/6850 is low end now were does that leave the hd 5770 low low end see where i am gong with this????, u say one thing mean another, now just because the extreme hd5850 are going for $150 in us dollars????? does not mean crap, i go by how the card performance to decide what category that card should be in not by price, for example a lot of people think the gtx560 ti is some mid end card, now when i overclock it i can reach entry high performance to a gtx 570 for example, i am not trying to argue either but i think u need to analyze what i am saying more

[Corduroy_Jr]

for the record in Canada the cheapest Ive seen was 169 to 200, that's higher priced then the extreme hd 5850, for most people that purchase a hd 6850 for close to 200 i don't they consider it to be low end either

[boise49ers]

Originally Posted by Corduroy_Jr

so in your eyes 5850/6850 is low end now were does that leave the hd 5770 low low end see where i am gong with this????, u say one thing mean another, now just because the extreme hd5850 are going for $150 in us dollars????? does not mean crap, i go by how the card performance to decide what category that card should be in not by price, for example a lot of people think the gtx560 ti is some mid end card, now when i overclock it i can reach entry high performance to a gtx 570 for example, i am not trying to argue either but i think u need to analyze what i am saying more

Shit where does that put my 6570 I have in my Pentium D ? I'm actually gonna stick it in the wifes quad and build her a new one.
I'll run it on the projector. My blind ass see's it a lot better when it covers half a wall. 1024x768 is the highest res , but I like it.
Watching the All Star game on it now

[crazyeyesreaper]

all i can say is the hell are you buying your overpriced shit lolz

6850s can be had for $140 ca and 6870s for $160

the canadian dollar is worth more then the US dollar for christs sake

in the UK a 5850 extreme can be had for $119

typical 6770 is $95

in terms of its price its low end, in terms of performance i still considering in low end, its the minimum id recomend for anyone to get if they plan to actually do any kind of gaming.

theres a difference between a gpu being a 6450 or something which is low end as manufacturers see it m and low end as minimum someone should be using for actual gaming, and as for your usual comments of ppl shoving high end parts down ppls throats

a quadcore gaming box with a 6850 can be built for $500-550 ive seen pieces of shit dual core boxes with 2gb of ram cost more then that without a gpu so that argument you like to fall back on is moot.

it dosent change the fact 6850 and 5850 gtx 460 are the minimum to have for any decent gaming.

[Corduroy_Jr]

Originally Posted by boise49ers

Shit where does that put my 6570 I have in my Pentium D ? I'm actually gonna stick it in the wifes quad and build her a new one.
I'll run it on the projector. My blind ass see's it a lot better when it covers half a wall. 1024x768 is the highest res , but I like it.
Watching the All Star game on it now

what do u mean its obvious the hd6570 is low end, now why does they wife need a powerful cpu that card should be plenty unless she gamer