Video Playback issues

bpgt64 · Mar 11, 2010, 11:53 PM

So I am using an NetTop

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16856119016

With a 4 gb stick of Patriot DDR2 - 800 and a 500GB Hitachi 2.5inch 7200RPM/16mb cache drive

With the lastest Nvidia Drivers, and Shark007 codecc pack. And I am unable to get true 1080p or 720p content to play properly. In Window's 7 64bit, which I thought might have been the issue....but common it has 4 gigs of ram.

Any ideas?

PS, I posting this hear because this my HTPC, and I am wondering if Nvidia's Ion platform just isn't enough...Should I send this one back?

troyrae360 · Mar 12, 2010, 12:19 AM

what happens when you try to play the Blueray files?

angelkiller · Mar 12, 2010, 12:26 AM

ION has enough power to play 1080p videos with no problems. I think the issue lies in software.

What happens when you try to play the videos?

bpgt64 · Mar 12, 2010, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelkiller

ION has enough power to play 1080p videos with no problems. I think the issue lies in software.

What happens when you try to play the videos?

They play, just when I get above a 576p File source, things skip...

bpgt64 · Mar 12, 2010, 01:46 AM

Pretty sure its a chipset driver issue. There's a CoProcessor not installed in Device manager..checking Nvidia's site now..

Mussels · Mar 12, 2010, 01:51 AM

uninstall shark, reboot, install CCCP's latest beta - when installing there is a tickbox near the H264 box called "MT" for multithreading - choose that codec, its a lot faster.

thats it, should play fine. Using CCCP i had a 1.6GHz atom in a netbook playing 720p at about 55% CPU usage

angelkiller · Mar 12, 2010, 02:30 AM

Also, what program are you using to playback the files? Maybe it's not using the hardware for decoding. I think Mussles actually knows alot about that.

bpgt64 · Mar 12, 2010, 02:53 AM

720p is playing 100% now...if only I could get 1080p...lol...not that it matters, don't have that many movies that are that big.

theonedub · Mar 12, 2010, 02:54 AM

what was the issue?

bpgt64 · Mar 12, 2010, 02:56 AM

For one think, Nvidia System Management(chipset drivers) weren't recognized properly in Device manager. I did exactly what Mussels said and workin like an ace now..and on only 2GBs of memory too!! Gonna return the 4GB stick tomorow and get my 170 bucks back.

Mussels · Mar 12, 2010, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpgt64

For one think, Nvidia System Management(chipset drivers) weren't recognized properly in Device manager. I did exactly what Mussels said and workin like an ace now..and on only 2GBs of memory too!! Gonna return the 4GB stick tomorow and get my 170 bucks back.

you need a ~1.5GHz CPU (dual core or HT preferable), 512MB of ram (depends on OS, i guess) and a 32MB video card to playback 720p content. the only thing needed extra for 1080p is more CPU power - despite what some people think, video playback doesnt use jack shit of system resources, except for CPU (and very little of that should you get hardware accel working)

bpgt64 · Mar 12, 2010, 03:06 AM

Well its a Dual Core...plus HT so 4 threads....Just can't quiet handle 1080p...But it's supposed to as apart of the Ion platform...

Mussels · Mar 12, 2010, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpgt64

Well its a Dual Core...plus HT so 4 threads....Just can't quiet handle 1080p...But it's supposed to as apart of the Ion platform...

atom doesnt have a quad thread variant. thats just a dual core.

ION requires you to get nvidia hardware acceleration working - and that only works on legitimate blu ray disks. its part of a marketing scam really, as nettops often dont have blu ray drives...

The only way for you to get hardware acceleration of files, is to buy/install/configure MPC-HC to use CoreAVC

bpgt64 · Mar 12, 2010, 03:22 AM

What do you mean MPC-HC?

Mussels · Mar 12, 2010, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpgt64

http://img.techpowerup.org/100312/Untitled.jpg

What do you mean MPC-HC?

media player classic home cinema. the player that comes with CCCP.

also it seems i was wrong... i did not know the 330 had 4 threads. That should handle 1080p with no problems.

bpgt64 · Mar 12, 2010, 03:25 AM

Me either, till we booted up this 330 we were setting up as a pfsense box for our firewall at work using Linux mint and low and behold 4 threads.

Mussels · Mar 12, 2010, 03:27 AM

as for setting up coreAVC, see the DXVA thread in my sig - its mostly about DXVA, but the instructions will also show you how to setup coreAVC

Wile E · Mar 12, 2010, 03:29 AM

You have an ION. I'm pretty sure all you need for 1080p playback is to install CoreAVC Pro, and disable ffdshow for H.264 playback in the CCCP control panel, and enable CUDA in the CoreAVC control panel. It will give you hardware acceleration in ANY directshow capable player.

Mussels · Mar 12, 2010, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile E

You have an ION. I'm pretty sure all you need for 1080p playback is to install CoreAVC Pro, and disable ffdshow for H.264 playback in the CCCP control panel, and enable CUDA in the CoreAVC control panel. It will give you hardware acceleration in ANY directshow capable player.

thats what i just told him how to do :P

Wile E · Mar 12, 2010, 03:34 AM

Except you said he has to use MPC-HC. He doesn't. Any directshow player will do. (And I'm glad, too. I hate MPC-HC, personally)

And I misread your post and thought you meant he would have just plain old DXVA acceleration, not full blown CUDA acceleration.

bpgt64 · Mar 12, 2010, 03:48 AM

Added the filter, worked like a charm...I got a little choppy playback but I am also migrating in about 400gbs of media, and its bogging the system down a bit.

This thing is nuts, its the size of a PS3 Game Case...

Mussels · Mar 12, 2010, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile E

Except you said he has to use MPC-HC. He doesn't. Any directshow player will do. (And I'm glad, too. I hate MPC-HC, personally)

And I misread your post and thought you meant he would have just plain old DXVA acceleration, not full blown CUDA acceleration.

fair enough - but once he confirms it works in MPC-HC (the leanest player you can get) he can then work on the players of his choice.

Mar 11, 2010, 11:53 PM	#1
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Mar 12, 2010, 12:26 AM	#3
angelkiller Join Date: May 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,228 (0.67/day) Thanks: 446 Thanked 225 Times in 201 Posts	ION has enough power to play 1080p videos with no problems. I think the issue lies in software. What happens when you try to play the videos?

Mar 12, 2010, 01:46 AM	#5
bpgt64 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 1,219 (0.72/day) Thanks: 129 Thanked 165 Times in 115 Posts System Specs	Pretty sure its a chipset driver issue. There's a CoProcessor not installed in Device manager..checking Nvidia's site now.. __________________ NOCT-Gaming.org "Half Bouncey Castle/Half Business meeting" Focused on Guild Missions and Structured PvP/World PvP

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Mar 12, 2010, 02:30 AM	#7
angelkiller Join Date: May 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,228 (0.67/day) Thanks: 446 Thanked 225 Times in 201 Posts	Also, what program are you using to playback the files? Maybe it's not using the hardware for decoding. I think Mussles actually knows alot about that.

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bpgt64 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 1,219 (0.72/day) Thanks: 129 Thanked 165 Times in 115 Posts System Specs	720p is playing 100% now...if only I could get 1080p...lol...not that it matters, don't have that many movies that are that big. __________________ NOCT-Gaming.org "Half Bouncey Castle/Half Business meeting" Focused on Guild Missions and Structured PvP/World PvP

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bpgt64 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 1,219 (0.72/day) Thanks: 129 Thanked 165 Times in 115 Posts System Specs	For one think, Nvidia System Management(chipset drivers) weren't recognized properly in Device manager. I did exactly what Mussels said and workin like an ace now..and on only 2GBs of memory too!! Gonna return the 4GB stick tomorow and get my 170 bucks back. __________________ NOCT-Gaming.org "Half Bouncey Castle/Half Business meeting" Focused on Guild Missions and Structured PvP/World PvP

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bpgt64 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 1,219 (0.72/day) Thanks: 129 Thanked 165 Times in 115 Posts System Specs	Well its a Dual Core...plus HT so 4 threads....Just can't quiet handle 1080p...But it's supposed to as apart of the Ion platform... __________________ NOCT-Gaming.org "Half Bouncey Castle/Half Business meeting" Focused on Guild Missions and Structured PvP/World PvP

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Wile E Power User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Western PA (Pittsburgh suburbs) Posts: 18,129 (7.47/day) Thanks: 450 Thanked 3,826 Times in 3,124 Posts System Specs	Except you said he has to use MPC-HC. He doesn't. Any directshow player will do. (And I'm glad, too. I hate MPC-HC, personally) And I misread your post and thought you meant he would have just plain old DXVA acceleration, not full blown CUDA acceleration. __________________ Visit Ashentech “What the hell did you expect? Leave Vista under the pillow and the OS fairy would make it Win7?” -El Fiendo “And Bring Mailman back god damnit, he is the Eric Cartman of TPU” -MRCL

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bpgt64 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 1,219 (0.72/day) Thanks: 129 Thanked 165 Times in 115 Posts System Specs	Added the filter, worked like a charm...I got a little choppy playback but I am also migrating in about 400gbs of media, and its bogging the system down a bit. This thing is nuts, its the size of a PS3 Game Case... __________________ NOCT-Gaming.org "Half Bouncey Castle/Half Business meeting" Focused on Guild Missions and Structured PvP/World PvP

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