New Catalyst 10.3 Application Profile

caveman-jim · Mar 19, 2010, 10:07 PM

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We are happy to let Rage3D exclusively host the first Catalyst external profile update. This is fresh off the press and below is a list of what will improve when a user installs the profile.

* Heaven – Crossfire profile
* Dark Void – Crossfire profile
* Singularity – Crossfire profile
* Unigine Heaven Demo – Crossfire profile
* Just Cause 2 -> Single GPU and Crossfire profile
* Battlefield Bad Company 2 -> Crossfire profile
* AvP -> Single GPU and Crossfire profile

Thanks,

Terry Makedon

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33960976

EastCoasthandle · Mar 19, 2010, 11:03 PM

Can we get a mirror here? They are getting hammered by 9000!!!

erocker · Mar 19, 2010, 11:08 PM

Is there anything we are supposed to do after installing?

EastCoasthandle · Mar 19, 2010, 11:14 PM

Hope that it works. Last time I did this I had to uinstall and do a complete reinstall of the Cat excluding the profile. It made performance worst for me. This time I want to read people's opinions...

cadaveca · Mar 19, 2010, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by erocker

Is there anything we are supposed to do after installing?

Play Games! App profiles merely configure the driver ot run in the best manner possible for the app you launch.

Before, this was part of the driver. Now, they can simply toss out profiles for games, rather than a whole driver, or hotfix.

Loosenut · Mar 19, 2010, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

Play Games!

So that means profiles are automatically added to CCC depending on the game being played? You don't need to go into Profile Manager and set it manually?

cadaveca · Mar 19, 2010, 11:17 PM

No, Holger Grun(GDC 2010) said the app profiles are not user-selectable, as AMD/ATI feels confident that they know thier hardware best, and will configure it properly for you.

EastCoasthandle · Mar 19, 2010, 11:23 PM

You can check the date for: C:\Windows\System32\atiumdag.dll
and few other ATI*.* files to see if that was changed. The date for the 10.3a release is 3/14/2010

cadaveca · Mar 19, 2010, 11:28 PM

You mean atiumd6a.cap, atiumd6a.dll, and atiumd64.dll?

EastCoasthandle · Mar 19, 2010, 11:35 PM

Sure, what is your question then?

cadaveca · Mar 19, 2010, 11:36 PM

No question, just that the atiumdag.dll file name is different on x64, as seen above, for those that miss it, or did they rename?

EastCoasthandle · Mar 19, 2010, 11:39 PM

I'm sure they didn't as it was already mentioned "and few other ATI*.* files..." it wasn't implied to only look at one file.

cadaveca · Mar 19, 2010, 11:43 PM

Well, those are all the 10.3a and profile files. Might be nice to know exactly what files are to profiling files....

The file you mentioned does not exist on my HDD.

EDIT:
AHhh....it's in sysWOW64, not system32, in Win7x64.

ml2517 · Mar 19, 2010, 11:51 PM

I'll tell ya. I had the 10.3a installed from a few days ago (Did a complete uninstall with driver sweeper etc.) and installed the profile update today.

In BF2 I'm getting a few FPS less than I was before. So either A: I need to do something else/confirm something else or B: It isn't working.

I'm running 2560x1600 with all advanced settings on high + 8xMSAA + 16x AF + Vsync Off + HBAO ON.

For the hell of it I'm going to unisntall everything again (I heard that there is a new driver sweeper as of a few days ago, but I can't seem to find it.) and see if it matters.

EastCoasthandle · Mar 19, 2010, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Well, those are all the 10.3a and profile files. Might be nice to know exactly what files are to profiling files....

The file you mentioned does not exist on my HDD.

EDIT:
AHhh....it's in sysWOW64, not system32, in Win7x64.

Oh so you just figured out I was talking about 32-bit and wasn't implying anything else

. Making atiumd6a.cap, atiumd6a.dll, and atiumd64.dll in the wrong location earlier.

cadaveca · Mar 19, 2010, 11:54 PM

AH, yes, exactly. heh. You weren't specific enough. I blame you. heh. Both sets of files are there, one for X64, one for 32. The X86 files are labelled almost the exact same...both updated.

ml2517 · Mar 20, 2010, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ml2517

I'll tell ya. I had the 10.3a installed from a few days ago (Did a complete uninstall with driver sweeper etc.) and installed the profile update today.

In BF2 I'm getting a few FPS less than I was before. So either A: I need to do something else/confirm something else or B: It isn't working.

I'm running 2560x1600 with all advanced settings on high + 8xMSAA + 16x AF + Vsync Off + HBAO ON.

For the hell of it I'm going to unisntall everything again (I heard that there is a new driver sweeper as of a few days ago, but I can't seem to find it.) and see if it matters.

Well it made zero difference for my setup (lost a couple fps) after a completely fresh install between 10.3a and 10.3a + profile update.

Running 2 x 5970's

My full specs:
i7 975 EE @4.27GHZ / 2 x HD5970 @980MHZ/1300MHZ
eVGA X58 Classified 3 x SLI / 6GB Kingston DDR3 2000MHZ RAM
1500 Watt Silverstone Strider PS / 8X Bluray/DVD Burner
2 x 160GB Intel X25-M Gen2 SSDs / 2TB WD HD
Windows 7 64bit

Water Cooling - 1 Loop:
Swiftech Apogee XT / Koolance Mosfet+VReg / 2 x EK Nickel-Acetal 5970 in series
2 x Black Ice GTX360 / 1 x Black Ice GTX480 Radiators
2 x D5 Pumps + EK Dual Top
20 x Yate Loon 2200RPM Fans Push/Pull

DRDNA · Mar 20, 2010, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ml2517

Well it made zero difference for my setup (lost a couple fps) after a completely fresh install between 10.3a and 10.3a + profile update.

Running 2 x 5970's

My full specs:
i7 975 EE @4.27GHZ / 2 x HD5970 @980MHZ/1300MHZ
eVGA X58 Classified 3 x SLI / 6GB Kingston DDR3 2000MHZ RAM
1500 Watt Silverstone Strider PS / 8X Bluray/DVD Burner
2 x 160GB Intel X25-M Gen2 SSDs / 2TB WD HD
Windows 7 64bit

Water Cooling - 1 Loop:
Swiftech Apogee XT / Koolance Mosfet+VReg / 2 x EK Nickel-Acetal 5970 in series
2 x Black Ice GTX360 / 1 x Black Ice GTX480 Radiators
2 x D5 Pumps + EK Dual Top
20 x Yate Loon 2200RPM Fans Push/Pull

HOT DAMN thats a sweet rig !

....When them 5970's come down a lil I am grabing me some and maybe a six core too.

cadaveca · Mar 20, 2010, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ml2517

Well it made zero difference for my setup (lost a couple fps) after a completely fresh install between 10.3a and 10.3a + profile update.

Running 2 x 5970's

My full specs:
i7 975 EE @4.27GHZ / 2 x HD5970 @980MHZ/1300MHZ
eVGA X58 Classified 3 x SLI / 6GB Kingston DDR3 2000MHZ RAM
1500 Watt Silverstone Strider PS / 8X Bluray/DVD Burner
2 x 160GB Intel X25-M Gen2 SSDs / 2TB WD HD
Windows 7 64bit

Water Cooling - 1 Loop:
Swiftech Apogee XT / Koolance Mosfet+VReg / 2 x EK Nickel-Acetal 5970 in series
2 x Black Ice GTX360 / 1 x Black Ice GTX480 Radiators
2 x D5 Pumps + EK Dual Top
20 x Yate Loon 2200RPM Fans Push/Pull

Yeah, I'm not noticing the "up to 75% in BFBC2" that was claimed. Maybe it's a stability fix...I'm stil lgetting the odd crash.

It only adds profiles for those few apps listed, too; only those apps should be any different. All previous profiles are included with th 10.3a driver package.

DRDNA · Mar 20, 2010, 12:58 AM

profile or no profile you still have CoNtRoL with the CCC and you have the ability to mess around with your own profiles for some sweet 2D clocking and I am sure you can do some sweetness to 3D too but I have tested that.

ml2517 · Mar 20, 2010, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DRDNA

profile or no profile you still have CoNtRoL with the CCC and you have the ability to mess around with your own profiles for some sweet 2D clocking and I am sure you can do some sweetness to 3D too but I have tested that.

Certainly not complaining about the framerates I'm betting since 10.3 but I got my hopes up that it was going to be an insane increase and.. well.. it just about stayed the same.

DRDNA · Mar 20, 2010, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ml2517

Certainly not complaining about the framerates I'm betting since 10.3 but I got my hopes up that it was going to be an insane increase and.. well.. it just about stayed the same.

Ya man been there too many times!

AphexDreamer · Mar 20, 2010, 01:05 AM

Will this work with 9.12s? and whats the big deal with Crossfire Profiles?

cadaveca · Mar 20, 2010, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRDNA

profile or no profile you still have CoNtRoL with the CCC and you have the ability to mess around with your own profiles for some sweet 2D clocking and I am sure you can do some sweetness to 3D too but I have tested that.

The profiles that are in this file are not the same type of profile as what CCC sets. There is NO users interface to these profiles, as they typically dictate rendering modes for CROSSFIRE, while the CCC profiles are for CCC settings only.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AphexDreamer

Will this work with 9.12s? and whats the big deal with Crossfire Profiles?

The big deal is that we used to have to wait for a driver, when new games release, for proper Crossfire support. This way, there's no need to wait...ATI can hand out a new profile installer, just 500K, instead. Hopefully this means that in future, we get Corssfire fixes on day one of release, if not jsut after.

DRDNA · Mar 20, 2010, 01:07 AM

I thought setting the AI to advanced forced the performance rendering scheme. No?

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cadaveca My name is Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 10,771 (4.14/day) Thanks: 4,486 Thanked 5,205 Times in 3,203 Posts System Specs	You mean atiumd6a.cap, atiumd6a.dll, and atiumd64.dll? Attached Thumbnails __________________ Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp -Only real men play games THIS way. Last edited by cadaveca; Mar 19, 2010 at 11:34 PM.

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cadaveca My name is Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 10,771 (4.14/day) Thanks: 4,486 Thanked 5,205 Times in 3,203 Posts System Specs	No question, just that the atiumdag.dll file name is different on x64, as seen above, for those that miss it, or did they rename? __________________ Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp -Only real men play games THIS way.

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cadaveca My name is Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 10,771 (4.14/day) Thanks: 4,486 Thanked 5,205 Times in 3,203 Posts System Specs	Well, those are all the 10.3a and profile files. Might be nice to know exactly what files are to profiling files.... The file you mentioned does not exist on my HDD. EDIT: AHhh....it's in sysWOW64, not system32, in Win7x64. __________________ Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp -Only real men play games THIS way. Last edited by cadaveca; Mar 19, 2010 at 11:49 PM.

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ml2517 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 31 (0.03/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	I'll tell ya. I had the 10.3a installed from a few days ago (Did a complete uninstall with driver sweeper etc.) and installed the profile update today. In BF2 I'm getting a few FPS less than I was before. So either A: I need to do something else/confirm something else or B: It isn't working. I'm running 2560x1600 with all advanced settings on high + 8xMSAA + 16x AF + Vsync Off + HBAO ON. For the hell of it I'm going to unisntall everything again (I heard that there is a new driver sweeper as of a few days ago, but I can't seem to find it.) and see if it matters.

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