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JSampson · May 13, 2010, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BraveSoul

didn't you say you like racing games, im playing Need For Speed Shift right now, and ill tell u if the frames were any slower i would be very pissed, because the game looks amazing, and 5850 handles it well. it is worth every penny, man i would ditch the aftermarket cpu cooler and even borrow money to make sure gaming department is taken care of

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Sounds like a good plan. I will take your advice on that.

Here's the deal. I am borrowing my mother's credit card to do all of this. No, Im not spoiled or anything cause I have to pay her back by July. I just have to give my friends desktop back to him next week, but I need to continue looking for jobs and I need a computer to do that.

I just have a budget. If I dont, then she gets the computer, cause she needs a computer or she will just sell it to pay the card back off.

JSampson · May 13, 2010, 10:32 PM

Ok, so I am going to take ya'lls advice and go with the 5850 and drop the CPU Cooler. Would the Rosewill RCX-Z300 92mm Ball CPU Cooler be better than the stock CPU Cooler for $14.99? Rosewill RCX-Z300 92mm Ball CPU Cooler

Now which one? I really like the Saphire 5850. The cheapest I have found on the intenet stores is $339.99 on Tigerdirect.

I have found the following on Ebay:

ATI Brand ATI Radeon: $289 = Free Shipping
PowerColor ATI Radeon: $299 + Free Shipping This is already OC'd to 760Mhz. But Ill be OCing anyway so this shouldnt matter, right?
Sapphire ATI Radeon: $299 + Free Shipping
MSI ATI Radeon: $310 + $15 Shipping

Here are the following findings on newegg.com
Computer Hardware,Video Cards & Video Devices,Desk...

Let me know if the link above does not work.
Any brand better than the others? Any worse than the others? I remember when buying my Geforce 2, the Leadtek Geforce 2 GTS was the best one out of all of the Geforce 2's.

Thanks again guys. Im getting closer to making my purchases! I forgot how much fun this was.

BraveSoul · May 14, 2010, 12:10 AM

i like the Gigabyte one on newegg, its factory overclocked and runs cooler
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JSampson · May 14, 2010, 06:22 AM

After doing further research, it looks like Ill need to upgrade my Windows from XP to Windows 7 to get full potential of my setup, is this correct fellas?

Mussels · May 14, 2010, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JSampson

After doing further research, it looks like Ill need to upgrade my Windows from XP to Windows 7 to get full potential of my setup, is this correct fellas?

yeah... XP has been dead for years.

codyjansen · May 14, 2010, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JSampson

After doing further research, it looks like Ill need to upgrade my Windows from XP to Windows 7 to get full potential of my setup, is this correct fellas?

DX 11 FTW

JSampson · May 14, 2010, 06:29 AM

Dang... Are all prices for Windows 7 the same or are there cheaper places to buy? Maybe a combo of Windows 7 with any of the components I am building my system you have came across?

Mussels · May 14, 2010, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JSampson

Dang... Are all prices for Windows 7 the same or are there cheaper places to buy? Maybe a combo of Windows 7 with any of the components I am building my system you have came across?

look for OEM versions, they tend to be cheaper. Also, stick with home premium or pro (google for the differences)

Fourstaff · May 14, 2010, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mussels

look for OEM versions, they tend to be cheaper. Also, stick with home premium or pro (google for the differences)

Or if you are a student, they offer discounts the last time I checked. Dunno whether its still up.

JSampson · May 14, 2010, 06:39 AM

Regarding my HDD setup. I picked the Western Digital SATA 6Gb/sec 1TB Caviar Black ($104.99) but then found the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache.

I was given advice in this thread to find a lower storage HDD for running my windows. So hear is my other question. Should I get two 500's and Raid them? I have RAID capabilities on my old MSI board and was really enthused about it, but never utilized it. I am already over my budget so I gotta figure something out. I can deal with 1 500gb drive and then add on another. I have several regular ATA/133 HDD lying around.

Lastly, I stumbled on something I havent figured out the difference on. I am researching on the board in the Motherboard selection on this site, but whats the difference between the Asus Crosshair IV Formula and Crosshair IV Extreme? They look a little different but im frazzled.

Sorry for all of the questions, but I really appreciate ya'lls help. Like I said earlier in another reply, Im getting closer and closer to buying everything.

JSampson · May 14, 2010, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mussels

look for OEM versions, they tend to be cheaper. Also, stick with home premium or pro (google for the differences)

I actually just did that. Premium and Pro will allow me to run XP software which is something I will need.

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Originally Posted by Fourstaff

Or if you are a student, they offer discounts the last time I checked. Dunno whether its still up.

I am actually looking at taking some Supervisor and Manager classes in June. Thanks for the idea

lilkiduno · May 14, 2010, 06:53 AM

With Budget in mind I would suggest one of these two cases, Decent prices and Airflow. I personaly have used both of them. Although I don't know if they would fit a Sexy 5850 inside! haha
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Com...
Thermaltake V3 Black Edition VL80001W2Z Black SECC...
PSU:OCZ $70, free shipping, $25 dollar MIR and did i mention it's modular?
OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V S...

JSampson · May 14, 2010, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lilkiduno

With Budget in mind I would suggest one of these two cases, Decent prices and Airflow. I personaly have used both of them. Although I don't know if they would fit a Sexy 5850 inside! haha
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Com...
Thermaltake V3 Black Edition VL80001W2Z Black SECC...
PSU:OCZ $70, free shipping, $25 dollar MIR and did i mention it's modular?
OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V S...

Hey, thanks for all of that! Definately keeping my budget in mind. I am looking for a case that has some Plexi on the side to show my sexy set up, but those towers are nice. I really like the black painted internal casing of these towers. Plus the power supply on the bottom is something I have been looking for.

I may still have to go with a tower that my dad let me borrow in the mean time. Its a top mounted PSU, can that PSU be mounted upside down? (120mm top mounted fan on the PSU)
I know thats not a good idea cause that would just blow hot hair onto my CPU and internals and heat rises.

JSampson · May 14, 2010, 09:13 AM

So I just priced everything and I am a bit over my budget. Here is what I compiled

AMD Phenom X6 1055T: $190 from ewiz.com

Crosshair IV Formula: $225 from amazon.com @ buy.com

Sapphire Toxic: $349 from Ewiz

Bgears BG01183 b-Tarantula 550W SLI/CrossFire: $39.99 (w/ $10 mail in rebate) zipzoomfly.com

Corsair XMS PC12800 RAM - 4GB, (2x2GB), DDR3, 1600MHz: $99.99 tigerdirect.com

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb: 89.99 + Free Ship newegg.com -
I was really hoping for an SATA III Drive like the WD Caviar Black SATA III
Western Digital WD5001AALS Caviar Black 500Gb: $59.95
HELP?

Total
$993.97 with the Samsung F3

I need to be around the $800 mark.
This is without a new case, fans, and CPU Cooler
Is it REALLY worth the extra $ to go with the 5850 although I have now fell in love with the Sapphire Toxic 5850?
This also doesnt include Windows 7 Professional but I hope my dad (IT) with that.

I will be searching the classifieds for all of the above equipment.

JrRacinFan · May 14, 2010, 12:50 PM

If you can't get the video card there's always later once you get more spending budget. I HIGHLY suggest you not skimp on power supply, just think one day while your gaming it goes poof and take's all your hardware with it.

Oh and unless you're going to be into benching and heavy overclocking I really don't think you should get the CH4, the board and budget don't mix, and also drop down to a 5770.

Sorry I just don't see it happenning with that kind of budget. $1000 yes, $800 no.

This I do see happenning though. Overbudget by the cost of a dvd burner:

PSU+CPU (Getting psu almost half price)
Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...

Mobo+GPU
Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...

HDD+Case (Getting case half price)
Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...

Ram:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 ...

DVD Burner:
Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R D...

JSampson · May 14, 2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

If you can't get the video card there's always later once you get more spending budget. I HIGHLY suggest you not skimp on power supply, just think one day while your gaming it goes poof and take's all your hardware with it.

Oh and unless you're going to be into benching and heavy overclocking I really don't think you should get the CH4, the board and budget don't mix, and also drop down to a 5770.

Sorry I just don't see it happenning with that kind of budget. $1000 yes, $800 no.

This I do see happenning though. Overbudget by the cost of a dvd burner:

PSU+CPU (Getting psu almost half price)
Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...

Mobo+GPU
Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...

HDD+Case (Getting case half price)
Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...

Ram:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 ...

DVD Burner:
Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R D...

I already have a DVD Burner along with a CD RW 52x.

I will be overclocking my card, cpu, and memory so that is one reason why I picked the Crosshair IV.

Im not going to skimp on my PSU, but I found a great deal on a nice one that was recommended to me.

JSampson · May 20, 2010, 08:35 AM

Hey guys. One more question and Im ready to make my purchase. I am looking to buy a WiFi night vision CCVT camera to watch my driveway. $37k truck and a $12k motorcycle with a crazy ex gf who got back with her ex husband and guess what? He knows where I live now. So is there anything I need in order to record up 58 hours of surveillance onto my hard drive? I am ok with making it into a seperate drive from anything else. Exclusive surveillance drive only. Does the Crosshair IV come with the required hardware? I have read that I need a TV Capture Card. Could all of this be included on my Crosshair IV or my ATI 5850 or 5770? Thanks guys!

JrRacinFan · May 20, 2010, 10:21 AM

Any links to the camera? I beleive all you would need is a wireless G router.

EDIT:

Something like this?
http://bestgiftsaround.com/Skynet-On...n-P879774.aspx

I work in the security and alarm monitoring business, and that would be one of the cheap simple easy solutions rather than setting up a dedicated DVR.

Hellfire · May 20, 2010, 10:28 AM

If it is something your worried about I'd recommend a separate DVR recorder, If you use your current PC it means it will stop recording every time you turn it off or stop recording.

Something basic like a 4channel DVR recorder with a 500gig harddrive will offer days and days of recording. We use a 16channel with a 1TB drive at work and get 14days continuous loop out of 1TB (basically it keeps looping keeping 14days worth,

Any half decent coax cable will do, to view it all you need to do is log into the DVR (via IP Address) and you can even then have remote access IE if your at work you can view it via remote log on.

i3uu · May 20, 2010, 04:15 PM

I'm actually looking for something similar to you

But I have a few suggestions/comments:

Since you said you are out of a job, I personally would suggest NOT buying a higher end build because you will drain your bank(this is assuming that you will not have a job in the near future and that you do not have a high budget as of now).

I noticed that you said you mostly want to do normal stuff/gaming. Not really video encoding and other things that require multiple cores for performance. Since this is the case, I would highly suggest getting either a dual core OR this:
AMD Athlon II X3 435 Rana 2.9GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cach...

That amd x3 ^ (with the right motherboard) can actually be unlocked to allow it to have 4 cores instead of 3 which is an awesome amount of bang for your buck!

But if you insist on the powerful X6 and if you feel like you have the money for it, look at this combo: Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...
I'm looking at it right now and it seems pretty nice. ~$600+GPU+dvd drive+whatever else you want.

Or, i'm actually looking to sell my pc I built last year that is awesome for gaming. Check my system specs for information. I'd sell it all minus the 1tb hdd and the gfx card.

But in any case, good luck with your build and make sure you do all the research you need!

El_Mayo · May 20, 2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by i3uu

I'm actually looking for something similar to you

But I have a few suggestions/comments:

Since you said you are out of a job, I personally would suggest NOT buying a higher end build because you will drain your bank(this is assuming that you will not have a job in the near future and that you do not have a high budget as of now).

I noticed that you said you mostly want to do normal stuff/gaming. Not really video encoding and other things that require multiple cores for performance. Since this is the case, I would highly suggest getting either a dual core OR this:
AMD Athlon II X3 435 Rana 2.9GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cach...

That amd x3 ^ (with the right motherboard) can actually be unlocked to allow it to have 4 cores instead of 3 which is an awesome amount of bang for your buck!

But if you insist on the powerful X6 and if you feel like you have the money for it, look at this combo: Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...
I'm looking at it right now and it seems pretty nice. ~$600+GPU+dvd drive+whatever else you want.

Or, i'm actually looking to sell my pc I built last year that is awesome for gaming. Check my system specs for information. I'd sell it all minus the 1tb hdd and the gfx card.

But in any case, good luck with your build and make sure you do all the research you need!

I have the AMD X3 425

It's alright... but not really great for HIGH END gaming

I'd get AT LEAST a 720BE the unlock that

or a Phenom II X4 925

System Name:	Soon to be my new PC
Processor:	AMD Phenom X6 1055T
Motherboard:	Asus Crosshair IV Formula
Cooling:	Factory CPU Cooling and lots of case fans
Memory:	GSkil RipJaws DDR3 1600
Video Card:	ATI 5850
Hard Disk:	Western Digital Caviar or Samsung Spinpoint F3
Optical Drive:	DVD RW
CRT/LCD Model:	CRT :-(
Case:	Unsure
Sound Card:	Creative Supreme FX
PSU:	Unsure. 550-650 watt PSU should do right?
Software:	Windows XP, but dont I need to upgrade to Windows 7?

System Name:	Soon to be my new PC
Processor:	AMD Phenom X6 1055T
Motherboard:	Asus Crosshair IV Formula
Cooling:	Factory CPU Cooling and lots of case fans
Memory:	GSkil RipJaws DDR3 1600
Video Card:	ATI 5850
Hard Disk:	Western Digital Caviar or Samsung Spinpoint F3
Optical Drive:	DVD RW
CRT/LCD Model:	CRT :-(
Case:	Unsure
Sound Card:	Creative Supreme FX
PSU:	Unsure. 550-650 watt PSU should do right?
Software:	Windows XP, but dont I need to upgrade to Windows 7?

System Name:	Air Filtration Tower \| HTPC \|
Processor:	i5 2500k@4.2ghz \| Phenom2 x4@3.6ghz
Motherboard:	MSI Z68 GD80 \| Gigabyte790GP
Cooling:	Noctua14
Memory:	Mushkin 1600 4gbs
Video Card:	Gigabyte GTX670\| 5850
Hard Disk:	intel ssd 220gbs
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung 24" \| tv
Sound Card:	onboard
PSU:	500w
Benchmarks:	3dmark11 P5100 :CPU: i5 2500k@4.6ghz 5850@1027/1100

System Name:	Soon to be my new PC
Processor:	AMD Phenom X6 1055T
Motherboard:	Asus Crosshair IV Formula
Cooling:	Factory CPU Cooling and lots of case fans
Memory:	GSkil RipJaws DDR3 1600
Video Card:	ATI 5850
Hard Disk:	Western Digital Caviar or Samsung Spinpoint F3
Optical Drive:	DVD RW
CRT/LCD Model:	CRT :-(
Case:	Unsure
Sound Card:	Creative Supreme FX
PSU:	Unsure. 550-650 watt PSU should do right?
Software:	Windows XP, but dont I need to upgrade to Windows 7?

System Name:	Real Men use Real Cores!
Processor:	Phenom II x6 1090T: 3600Mhz undervolted (NB+HT at 2.6)
Motherboard:	Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5
Cooling:	Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme (Lapped + ducted)
Memory:	8GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 - 1600Mhz 7-7-7-20 1.65V
Video Card:	AMD Radeon 5870 1GB Crossfire
Hard Disk:	Intel 520 SSD (120GB), 500GB OS + 18TB of storage (mostly external)
Optical Drive:	Samsung Blu Ray drive (SH-B083A)
CRT/LCD Model:	23.6" Samsung 1080P / Samsung 40" HDTV - 1360x768P
Case:	Coolermaster CM 690 II Advanced (non window)
Sound Card:	Auzentech X-Mystique (Logitech Z5500D + sennheiser HD555 + RE2's)
PSU:	Corsair HX 1000W
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate x64 - kaspersky internet security 2013
Benchmarks:	Laptop: AMD A6 APU 1.4GHz @2.2GHz quad core + APU crossfire.Iphone 5, Samsung galaxy tab 2 7"

May 13, 2010, 10:32 PM	#27
JSampson Join Date: May 2010 Location: Irving, Texas Posts: 20 (0.02/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok, so I am going to take ya'lls advice and go with the 5850 and drop the CPU Cooler. Would the Rosewill RCX-Z300 92mm Ball CPU Cooler be better than the stock CPU Cooler for $14.99? Rosewill RCX-Z300 92mm Ball CPU Cooler Now which one? I really like the Saphire 5850. The cheapest I have found on the intenet stores is $339.99 on Tigerdirect. I have found the following on Ebay: ATI Brand ATI Radeon: $289 = Free Shipping PowerColor ATI Radeon: $299 + Free Shipping This is already OC'd to 760Mhz. But Ill be OCing anyway so this shouldnt matter, right? Sapphire ATI Radeon: $299 + Free Shipping MSI ATI Radeon: $310 + $15 Shipping Here are the following findings on newegg.com Computer Hardware,Video Cards & Video Devices,Desk... Let me know if the link above does not work. Any brand better than the others? Any worse than the others? I remember when buying my Geforce 2, the Leadtek Geforce 2 GTS was the best one out of all of the Geforce 2's. Thanks again guys. Im getting closer to making my purchases! I forgot how much fun this was.

May 14, 2010, 12:10 AM	#28
BraveSoul Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New York Posts: 954 (0.54/day) Thanks: 307 Thanked 166 Times in 144 Posts System Specs	i like the Gigabyte one on newegg, its factory overclocked and runs cooler _____________________________ Antec1200 filter project

May 14, 2010, 06:22 AM	#29
JSampson Join Date: May 2010 Location: Irving, Texas Posts: 20 (0.02/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	After doing further research, it looks like Ill need to upgrade my Windows from XP to Windows 7 to get full potential of my setup, is this correct fellas?

System Name:	First Build
Processor:	AMD Phenom II X4 810 @3.25 GHZ 1.4v
Motherboard:	ASUS M3N72-D
Cooling:	140mm Intake, 140mm Exhaust, 3x 120mm Intake, Corsair H50 Push/Pull Configuration
Memory:	4 GB (2x 2GB) Kingston HyperX DDR2 @1000 MHZ
Video Card:	XFX Radeon HD 6870 1 GB
Hard Disk:	WD Caviar Black 750 GB SATA, 2x WD 250 GB IDE, WD 1 TB Portable, WD 2TB Portable
Optical Drive:	Sony Optiarc Black SATA DVD/CD Rewritable Drive
CRT/LCD Model:	Asus VE248H / ViewSonic VA1912wb
Case:	Cooler Master Storm Scout
Sound Card:	Onboard
PSU:	Corsair TX550M
Software:	Dual Boot- 7 Ultimate 64/ XP Pro 32

May 14, 2010, 06:29 AM	#32
JSampson Join Date: May 2010 Location: Irving, Texas Posts: 20 (0.02/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dang... Are all prices for Windows 7 the same or are there cheaper places to buy? Maybe a combo of Windows 7 with any of the components I am building my system you have came across?

System Name:	Asus K50-X5DAB
Processor:	Athlon QL-65 2.2Ghz
Memory:	1x1GB + 1X2GB
Video Card:	Mobility Radeon HD4570 512mb
Hard Disk:	Samsung 840 250Gb
CRT/LCD Model:	15.6" 1366x768

May 14, 2010, 06:39 AM	#35
JSampson Join Date: May 2010 Location: Irving, Texas Posts: 20 (0.02/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Regarding my HDD setup. I picked the Western Digital SATA 6Gb/sec 1TB Caviar Black ($104.99) but then found the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache. I was given advice in this thread to find a lower storage HDD for running my windows. So hear is my other question. Should I get two 500's and Raid them? I have RAID capabilities on my old MSI board and was really enthused about it, but never utilized it. I am already over my budget so I gotta figure something out. I can deal with 1 500gb drive and then add on another. I have several regular ATA/133 HDD lying around. Lastly, I stumbled on something I havent figured out the difference on. I am researching on the board in the Motherboard selection on this site, but whats the difference between the Asus Crosshair IV Formula and Crosshair IV Extreme? They look a little different but im frazzled. Sorry for all of the questions, but I really appreciate ya'lls help. Like I said earlier in another reply, Im getting closer and closer to buying everything.

May 14, 2010, 06:53 AM	#37
lilkiduno Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kansas City, Ks Posts: 408 (0.22/day) Thanks: 99 Thanked 48 Times in 46 Posts System Specs	With Budget in mind I would suggest one of these two cases, Decent prices and Airflow. I personaly have used both of them. Although I don't know if they would fit a Sexy 5850 inside! haha Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Com... Thermaltake V3 Black Edition VL80001W2Z Black SECC... PSU:OCZ $70, free shipping, $25 dollar MIR and did i mention it's modular? OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V S... __________________ Signature is GREATLY done by SkyKast “try using everything you can. it doesn't lock you out ... If not google it, or call MS, I'm sure they have a backdoor fix all password or some sort of "hop on one leg, rub your stomach, pinch your left nipple all while screaming out BILL! BILL! BILL!"” -Gilletter “Minivans outsell Lambo's, does it make them better?” -1Kurgan1 Last edited by lilkiduno; May 14, 2010 at 06:56 AM. Reason: bad linking

System Name:	The "H3X" / beaut
Processor:	AMD X6 1090t /Intel Q6600
Motherboard:	GIGABYTE 990FX UD3 / eVGA 780i FTW
Cooling:	Corsair H70/ Stock Intel
Memory:	8GB Mushkin Silverline Enhanced 1333 / 4 Gigs Corsair Dominator ddr2 1066
Video Card:	XFX 5850 /eVGA 9800 GTX+ (dual SLI)
Hard Disk:	OCZ Vertex III 120 GB + Hatichi 1TB / WD Blue 640GB
Optical Drive:	LG Blu-Ray Burner / SATA DVD burner
CRT/LCD Model:	3x Acer S211H/ (buddies) Vizio 37" LCD HDTV
Case:	Corsair Obsidian 800D / Antec 900
PSU:	Corsair 850 Modular/ Corsair 750
Software:	Win 7 Ultimate /Windows Vista Ultimate

May 14, 2010, 09:13 AM	#39
JSampson Join Date: May 2010 Location: Irving, Texas Posts: 20 (0.02/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	So I just priced everything and I am a bit over my budget. Here is what I compiled AMD Phenom X6 1055T: $190 from ewiz.com Crosshair IV Formula: $225 from amazon.com @ buy.com Sapphire Toxic: $349 from Ewiz Bgears BG01183 b-Tarantula 550W SLI/CrossFire: $39.99 (w/ $10 mail in rebate) zipzoomfly.com Corsair XMS PC12800 RAM - 4GB, (2x2GB), DDR3, 1600MHz: $99.99 tigerdirect.com SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb: 89.99 + Free Ship newegg.com - I was really hoping for an SATA III Drive like the WD Caviar Black SATA III Western Digital WD5001AALS Caviar Black 500Gb: $59.95 HELP? Total $993.97 with the Samsung F3 I need to be around the $800 mark. This is without a new case, fans, and CPU Cooler Is it REALLY worth the extra $ to go with the 5850 although I have now fell in love with the Sapphire Toxic 5850? This also doesnt include Windows 7 Professional but I hope my dad (IT) with that. I will be searching the classifieds for all of the above equipment.

May 14, 2010, 12:50 PM	#40
JrRacinFan Served 5k and counting ... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Youngstown, OH Posts: 16,121 (7.13/day) Thanks: 4,149 Thanked 4,552 Times in 4,027 Posts System Specs	If you can't get the video card there's always later once you get more spending budget. I HIGHLY suggest you not skimp on power supply, just think one day while your gaming it goes poof and take's all your hardware with it. Oh and unless you're going to be into benching and heavy overclocking I really don't think you should get the CH4, the board and budget don't mix, and also drop down to a 5770. Sorry I just don't see it happenning with that kind of budget. $1000 yes, $800 no. This I do see happenning though. Overbudget by the cost of a dvd burner: PSU+CPU (Getting psu almost half price) Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L... Mobo+GPU Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L... HDD+Case (Getting case half price) Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L... Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 ... DVD Burner: Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R D... __________________ Graphics Artists United™ Request Thread Low Cache CPU Club Solaris Utility DVD 3.0 DanishDevil's Logitech Soundroom TPU Video Gallery Sciencemark Revisited

System Name:	Mine; Hers; Our HTPC; NAS Box
Processor:	i7 2600k : i3 2120 : Celeron G440 : P4 2.6Ghz Nwood
Motherboard:	Asrock Z68 Extreme4 : Asus P8P67 Pro : Asrock H61M/U3S3 : Dell
Cooling:	CM 212+ w/ scythe jyuni : Stock : Stock :Stock
Memory:	2x4GB Ripjawx 1866 cl9 : 2x2GB Corsair 1600 cl9 : 2x2GB Ridgebacks 1066 cl5 : 768MB PC3200
Video Card:	Palit GTX560Ti 2Gb : XFX HD5770 : Integrated : Integrated
Hard Disk:	2x 750GB Raid 0 + Maxtor 500GB : WD Black 1TB+Corsair Nova 2 64GB : Toshiba 750GB : Leftover ATA133
Optical Drive:	Lite-On DVD-RW : Samsung DVD-RW : None : None
CRT/LCD Model:	AOC 21" : AOC 20" : Philips 42" HDTV : Headless
Case:	Rocketfish : CM HAF 912 : Bgears Cube Style case : Dell
Sound Card:	X-Fi Xtremegamer : Onboard : Onboard : Onboard
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May 20, 2010, 08:35 AM	#42
JSampson Join Date: May 2010 Location: Irving, Texas Posts: 20 (0.02/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey guys. One more question and Im ready to make my purchase. I am looking to buy a WiFi night vision CCVT camera to watch my driveway. $37k truck and a $12k motorcycle with a crazy ex gf who got back with her ex husband and guess what? He knows where I live now. So is there anything I need in order to record up 58 hours of surveillance onto my hard drive? I am ok with making it into a seperate drive from anything else. Exclusive surveillance drive only. Does the Crosshair IV come with the required hardware? I have read that I need a TV Capture Card. Could all of this be included on my Crosshair IV or my ATI 5850 or 5770? Thanks guys!

May 20, 2010, 10:21 AM	#43
JrRacinFan Served 5k and counting ... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Youngstown, OH Posts: 16,121 (7.13/day) Thanks: 4,149 Thanked 4,552 Times in 4,027 Posts System Specs	Any links to the camera? I beleive all you would need is a wireless G router. EDIT: Something like this? http://bestgiftsaround.com/Skynet-On...n-P879774.aspx I work in the security and alarm monitoring business, and that would be one of the cheap simple easy solutions rather than setting up a dedicated DVR. __________________ Graphics Artists United™ Request Thread Low Cache CPU Club Solaris Utility DVD 3.0 DanishDevil's Logitech Soundroom TPU Video Gallery Sciencemark Revisited

May 20, 2010, 10:28 AM	#44
Hellfire Join Date: May 2010 Location: Essex, England Posts: 286 (0.26/day) Thanks: 75 Thanked 30 Times in 21 Posts System Specs	If it is something your worried about I'd recommend a separate DVR recorder, If you use your current PC it means it will stop recording every time you turn it off or stop recording. Something basic like a 4channel DVR recorder with a 500gig harddrive will offer days and days of recording. We use a 16channel with a 1TB drive at work and get 14days continuous loop out of 1TB (basically it keeps looping keeping 14days worth, Any half decent coax cable will do, to view it all you need to do is log into the DVR (via IP Address) and you can even then have remote access IE if your at work you can view it via remote log on.

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May 20, 2010, 04:15 PM	#45
i3uu Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 117 (0.08/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts System Specs	I'm actually looking for something similar to you But I have a few suggestions/comments: Since you said you are out of a job, I personally would suggest NOT buying a higher end build because you will drain your bank(this is assuming that you will not have a job in the near future and that you do not have a high budget as of now). I noticed that you said you mostly want to do normal stuff/gaming. Not really video encoding and other things that require multiple cores for performance. Since this is the case, I would highly suggest getting either a dual core OR this: AMD Athlon II X3 435 Rana 2.9GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cach... That amd x3 ^ (with the right motherboard) can actually be unlocked to allow it to have 4 cores instead of 3 which is an awesome amount of bang for your buck! But if you insist on the powerful X6 and if you feel like you have the money for it, look at this combo: Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L... I'm looking at it right now and it seems pretty nice. ~$600+GPU+dvd drive+whatever else you want. Or, i'm actually looking to sell my pc I built last year that is awesome for gaming. Check my system specs for information. I'd sell it all minus the 1tb hdd and the gfx card. But in any case, good luck with your build and make sure you do all the research you need! __________________

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