Mitsubishi Electric Releases New Diamondcrysta WIDE 23-inch Monitor

btarunr · May 17, 2010, 06:54 AM

Mitsubishi Electric released the Diamondcrysta WIDE RDT232WX. This 23-inch LCD display comes in two variants, that with glossy screen, and that with a matte (anti-glare) screen. The panel has a resolution of 1920 x 1080 pixels with 3.8 ms of response time (GTG), 1000:1 contrast ratio (5000:1 dynamic), 300 cd/m², and 3W stereo speakers. Inputs include DVI, D-Sub, and HDMI. The variant with the glossy screen will be priced at US $464 and that with the matte screen at $484, when the two release later this month in Japan.

Source: TechConnect Magazine

Wile E · May 17, 2010, 07:21 AM

What panels do these have? If it's anything less than IPS, it's a ripoff.

RejZoR · May 17, 2010, 08:37 AM

Considering it's 3,8ms with GTG rating, i'd say it's IPS. Most of TN's have 2ms GTG or even less.
Besides, TN for over 400 bucks is not really realistic...

Wile E · May 17, 2010, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RejZoR

Considering it's 3,8ms with GTG rating, i'd say it's IPS. Most of TN's have 2ms GTG or even less.
Besides, TN for over 400 bucks is not really realistic...

Most TN are listed as 5ms, most IPS are listed as 6ms. I haven't seen a single IPS panel rated this low.

I think they are either Tn film, and Mitsu is charging a really exorbitant price for them, or it's IPS, and Mitsu is severely overstating their response times.

Either way, it's a poor choice on their part.

Marineborn · May 17, 2010, 10:12 AM

whats up with all these new "COMPUTER MONITORS" coming out with high Ms's Its rediculous i was buying monitors 8-9 years ago with faster MS's, *sigh*

rpsgc · May 17, 2010, 10:42 AM

Apparently they are indeed IPS

http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/win...w-142082.shtml

Take it as you will

Mussels · May 17, 2010, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marineborn

whats up with all these new "COMPUTER MONITORS" coming out with high Ms's Its rediculous i was buying monitors 8-9 years ago with faster MS's, *sigh*

because they were lying about it back then.

not too bad a price for IPS, but i wouldnt buy a new screen without display port.

Delta6326 · May 17, 2010, 01:39 PM

Whats the diff from Tn and IPS?

Mussels · May 17, 2010, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta6326

Whats the diff from Tn and IPS?

google. marry it.

Black Hades · May 17, 2010, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta6326

Whats the diff from Tn and IPS?

Here this should help clarify all your questions : http://tinyurl.com/37dcpzq

Delta6326 · May 17, 2010, 05:14 PM

all i was wandering is tn look nicer? which it does sound like it

naoan · May 17, 2010, 06:14 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_fi..._display#Types

tl;dr IPS looks better

steelkane · May 17, 2010, 09:18 PM

Once a pond a time Mitsubishi had the best crt & tv's, from that I would try one & do think this new product does what's stated.

Wile E · May 17, 2010, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta6326

all i was wandering is tn look nicer? which it does sound like it

No, IPS looks better. Tn is just cheaper.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marineborn

whats up with all these new "COMPUTER MONITORS" coming out with high Ms's Its rediculous i was buying monitors 8-9 years ago with faster MS's, *sigh*

If you actually believe the ms and contrast ratings any manufacturer gives you, you have bigger problems than a slow panel. None of them actually do 2ms, or even 5ms. That is only a best case scenario that they pick to give them better numbers, and that is only between 2 different shades of grey. Problem is, there is no industry standard for what shades of grey to use. The real ms ratings are black to white to black, and are much, much higher than what they want you to see.

They use overdrive to achieve these ratings, and overdrive can cause more problems than it solves when it comes to image quality. Negative ghosting, sparkle artifacts, etc., etc. To get 3.8 out of an IPS panel, they are overdriving it to hell and back, possibly defeating the purpose of buying an IPS panel in the first place, which is image quality.

lemonadesoda · May 17, 2010, 09:50 PM

Nasty. Notice how the matte screen is more expensive for the same spec. THAT IS WHY the manufacturers have been pawning glossy screens onto gullible consumers; they are cheaper to make!

Ok, which one of you whippersnappers fell for the "glossy gives blacker Apple blacks" marketing spin?

Welcome back matte screens. Let's hope 2010 brings back 1200 or 1440 or 1600 in the "y".

Ok, which one of you whippersnappers fell for the "widescreen but less y gives you bigger FOV" marketing spin?

Wile E · May 17, 2010, 09:51 PM

Glossy just looks like crap.

steelkane · May 17, 2010, 10:10 PM

Hey glossy is great for ppl who need to watch there back

Wile E · May 17, 2010, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steelkane

Hey glossy is great for ppl who need to watch there back

I have a security cam on the second monitor for that.

Mussels · May 18, 2010, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile E

Glossy just looks like crap.

hear hear.

Quote:

Originally Posted by steelkane

Hey glossy is great for ppl who need to watch there back

actually, you watch your front.

Meizuman · May 19, 2010, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta6326

Whats the diff from Tn and IPS?

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/viewing_angle.php

Try that on both and you have the answer.

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