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Old May 25, 2010, 07:13 AM   #1
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MSI Readies Twin Frozr II Based GeForce GTX 400 Series Graphics Cards

MSI is readying three new non-reference design graphics cards based on the entire series of GeForce GTX 400 series GPUs, including the upcoming GeForce GTX 465. The new cards will make use of the company's tried and tested Twin-Frozr II GPU cooler to keep the scorching GF100 GPU running. Unlike Twin Frozr II coolers used on ATI Radeon HD 5800 series GPUs, which have bases with heat pipes making direct contact with the GPU, in its GF100 implementation, the cooler will have large copper bases to quickly transfer heat from the GPU to the cooler. Perhaps MSI's mention of "high density" could also indicate that it would have more aluminum fins. The 8 mm thick heat pipes, which MSI refers to as SuperPipes, stay on. The SKUs will likely be called the MSI N480/N470/N465 Twin Frozr II, for models with the GeForce GTX 480, GTX 470, and GTX 465, respectively.



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Old May 25, 2010, 07:43 AM   #2
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Dam I want them to make a lighting version, like the 5870 and GTX 275 ones. That clocks super high. Making a ref. card with a new cooler is a waste imo.
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Old May 25, 2010, 08:24 AM   #3
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not sure if the lack of heat pipes is a good idea,
HIS put a cooler without heat pipes on a 5870, didn't went well
I think u didnt read it through....
It uses 8mm heat pipes, aka Superpipes (in MSI lingo).

Twin Frozr has never been as good as say the Vapor-X series and the one used on 5850/5870 struggles to keep up with overclocked loads... lets see what a Fermi does to it
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Old May 25, 2010, 10:02 AM   #4
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I think u didnt read it through....
It uses 8mm heat pipes, aka Superpipes (in MSI lingo).

Twin Frozr has never been as good as say the Vapor-X series and the one used on 5850/5870 struggles to keep up with overclocked loads... lets see what a Fermi does to it
gah, reading fail
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Old May 25, 2010, 11:58 AM   #5
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twin frozr is only good as its looking.
dunno why this cooler can't compete with other heatpipe-based coolers like, say xigmatek battle axe.

I prefer the old looking twinfrozr like this:

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Old May 25, 2010, 12:41 PM   #6
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No Idea what your talking about but the Frozr is known to push R5870 over 1GHz- Topic can be found here. The only other cards known to push is the Powercolor PCS+ 5870 and I also believe the Sapphire Toxic 5850.
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that is because those chips are high-quality-binning chips. try mount twinfrozr on a stock cooled gpu and see how many mhz you can achieve.

I think it is the fans which limits the cooler. The cooler is great, but the fans is not so good and too loud for a custom cooler.
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i think noise production is subjective, I have to hear it for myself to make a determination, also case acoustics can actually make a card sound louder or softer. Trust Me i had a 60 MM CPU cooling fan that produced High CFM but it was so loud you could hear it up stairs in the house.
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little fan usually produce more noise than bigger fans. and they have to crank up the rpm to produce high flow air.

I had Palit HD4870 sonic with dual fans setups (8cm and 9cm fans) like twinfrozr but with less heatpipe (3 heatpipe, more like MSI's GTS250 twinfrozr),and it sounds loud beyond 70%.

and yes, I also had 6cm fans which move air a lot, and produce noise a lot too
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that is because those chips are high-quality-binning chips. try mount twinfrozr on a stock cooled gpu and see how many mhz you can achieve.

I think it is the fans which limits the cooler. The cooler is great, but the fans is not so good and too loud for a custom cooler.
There are others, my last card was a Toxic which I loved, this cooler is better IMO, just as quiet, will keep the card at under 70C at 1.3V @ 1045mhz on 65% fan speed..... Ohhh and it's cheaper than the Toxic/VaporX. Added bonus is this is a non reference design but with Voltage adjustment.

http://uk.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID...3Fm&templete=2
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Did i see one of these cards flying around in the Futuremark 3dMark 11 Tech Demo ?
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