Windows 7 Recovery help needed.

richjordan255 · Jun 11, 2010, 05:04 PM

My PC as in specs keeps booting to the windows System recovery options, but will not complete repairs.

I use the disc and it says its "recovered" my Win 7, but i cant fix it, tries fixmbr and fix boot, when i do bootrec /scanos it finds no installations, help i wont wanna have to format

any help appreciated

EDIT - i have made no changes to anything my PC been running fine for months, and i had felt like i had found the sweet spotfor how it was running, how wrong i was

PVTCaboose1337 · Jun 11, 2010, 05:06 PM

Nice thread title...

Need a little more background here, so is this a new install of Windows 7 or an old one?

richjordan255 · Jun 11, 2010, 05:11 PM

sorry caboose i have just edited it, realised i missed that out i can normally fix this myself but this has me stumped

PVTCaboose1337 · Jun 11, 2010, 05:16 PM

Because you have been running 7 for a while, I would suspect a corrupted recovery.dat file.

Are you doing F8 for advanced boot options, choosing repair your computer and then doing a startup repair?

richjordan255 · Jun 11, 2010, 05:18 PM

no dude its booting to it automatically, as if its stuckm in a loop

richjordan255 · Jun 11, 2010, 05:21 PM

just ran it again and checked the problem details and got "missing OS loader"

PVTCaboose1337 · Jun 11, 2010, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richjordan255

just ran it again and checked the problem details and got "missing OS loader"

This is an extremely common issue I have seen on computers at my university. In most cases, I never actually got any data off the drive, I just went back to a relatively new image on the drive. By that, I mean I went back to when Windows was JUST installed.

95Viper · Jun 11, 2010, 05:31 PM

Just wondering?

Is the hard disk with the boot partition the first boot device in your bios?
Have you left a usb stick plugged in or cd\dvd in one of the drives?

richjordan255 · Jun 11, 2010, 05:32 PM

start from scratch then ?

richjordan255 · Jun 11, 2010, 05:38 PM

sorry Viper missed u there, the raid array is the first boot device

Goodman · Jun 11, 2010, 05:42 PM

Sometimes it is easier & faster to just format & reinstall then to just try to repair/fix a windows/software problem... but in your case i am not sure what would be best?

Can you backup everything on that drive & reinstall windows?
If so then that is what i would do & that is why i always run my pc with at least 2 HDD's got 3 at the moment i never keep the good stuff on my windows drive

richjordan255 · Jun 11, 2010, 05:43 PM

i normally do i normally back up on a saturday lol

slyfox2151 · Jun 11, 2010, 06:01 PM

ok here is your problem.

some how your boot manager has either become corrupt or moved edited/deleted, windows cant always fix this.

the easiest way to fix this?

download Fedora 13 (i use'd KDE version). install it to a tiny partition at the end of the drive, grub will be installed as your boot loader and all should be fixed with out the need to format or reinstall windows.

side note, with windows repair, did you run DISKPART and check your drive was marked as ACTIVE? it should have a * symbal. also did you run BOOTREC.exe? make sure u /Fixboot /FixMBR /Rebuildbcd (i think thats the commands.)

PVTCaboose1337 · Jun 11, 2010, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slyfox2151

ok here is your problem.

some how your boot manager has either become corrupt or moved edited/deleted, windows cant always fix this.

the easiest way to fix this?

download Fedora 13 (i use'd KDE version). install it to a tiny partition at the end of the drive, grub will be installed as your boot loader and all should be fixed with out the need to format or reinstall windows.

Or you could just install GRUB.

http://packages.debian.org/source/lenny/grub-installer

I am unsure however, if this would fix your problem.

slyfox2151 · Jun 11, 2010, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

Or you could just install GRUB.

http://packages.debian.org/source/lenny/grub-installer

I am unsure however, if this would fix your problem.

good point however i have never had a flawless install of grub itself

.

iv had this problem(the OP problem) many times, (well it sounds the same as he is describing it) it may be different but my system behaved exacly the same way as he described.

EDIT:
since it cant find your windows install its likely a partition error, double check your partitions with DISKPART. (grub would not have this problem)

erocker · Jun 11, 2010, 06:11 PM

If it's just the MBR that's messed up, put the Windows disc in, boot from it, choose "Repair your Computer", then choose "command prompt"

Since it's RAID, at the command prompt run: bootsect /nt60 ALL

richjordan255 · Jun 11, 2010, 06:14 PM

ill look into the diskpart fox good thinkin

richjordan255 · Jun 11, 2010, 06:15 PM

erocker u r awesome :P

slyfox2151 · Jun 11, 2010, 06:16 PM

nice catch erocker, dint notice it was in a raid :P

jmcslob · Jun 11, 2010, 06:16 PM

Ive had this happen a few times Erocker is correct
other than what he suggested I also had to do a "Return to an earlier save point"

richjordan255 · Jun 11, 2010, 06:26 PM

erocker you my friend are a chuffin genius i owe you

jmcslob · Jun 11, 2010, 06:31 PM

Now go to the start menu and Type
"Create a system repair disc"
and make one it's easier than using the Win7 installation disc

Jun 11, 2010, 05:04 PM	#1
richjordan255 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 364 (0.20/day) Thanks: 46 Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts System Specs	Windows 7 Recovery help needed. My PC as in specs keeps booting to the windows System recovery options, but will not complete repairs. I use the disc and it says its "recovered" my Win 7, but i cant fix it, tries fixmbr and fix boot, when i do bootrec /scanos it finds no installations, help i wont wanna have to format any help appreciated EDIT - i have made no changes to anything my PC been running fine for months, and i had felt like i had found the sweet spotfor how it was running, how wrong i was __________________ It's the truth, whats right is right Last edited by richjordan255; Jun 11, 2010 at 05:10 PM.

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PVTCaboose1337 Graphical Hacker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 7,478 (2.81/day) Thanks: 798 Thanked 1,174 Times in 834 Posts System Specs	Nice thread title... Need a little more background here, so is this a new install of Windows 7 or an old one? __________________ CPU-Z validation sig pics temporarily blocked

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Jun 11, 2010, 05:11 PM	#3
richjordan255 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 364 (0.20/day) Thanks: 46 Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts System Specs	sorry caboose i have just edited it, realised i missed that out i can normally fix this myself but this has me stumped __________________ It's the truth, whats right is right

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PVTCaboose1337 Graphical Hacker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 7,478 (2.81/day) Thanks: 798 Thanked 1,174 Times in 834 Posts System Specs	Because you have been running 7 for a while, I would suspect a corrupted recovery.dat file. Are you doing F8 for advanced boot options, choosing repair your computer and then doing a startup repair? __________________ CPU-Z validation sig pics temporarily blocked

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richjordan255 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 364 (0.20/day) Thanks: 46 Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts System Specs	no dude its booting to it automatically, as if its stuckm in a loop __________________ It's the truth, whats right is right

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richjordan255 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 364 (0.20/day) Thanks: 46 Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts System Specs	just ran it again and checked the problem details and got "missing OS loader" __________________ It's the truth, whats right is right

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95Viper Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: στο άλφα έως ωμέγα Posts: 3,839 (2.28/day) Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 1,416 Times in 1,115 Posts System Specs	Just wondering? Is the hard disk with the boot partition the first boot device in your bios? Have you left a usb stick plugged in or cd\dvd in one of the drives?

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richjordan255 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 364 (0.20/day) Thanks: 46 Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts System Specs	start from scratch then ? __________________ It's the truth, whats right is right

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richjordan255 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 364 (0.20/day) Thanks: 46 Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts System Specs	sorry Viper missed u there, the raid array is the first boot device __________________ It's the truth, whats right is right

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richjordan255 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 364 (0.20/day) Thanks: 46 Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts System Specs	i normally do i normally back up on a saturday lol __________________ It's the truth, whats right is right

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richjordan255 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 364 (0.20/day) Thanks: 46 Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts System Specs	ill look into the diskpart fox good thinkin __________________ It's the truth, whats right is right

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richjordan255 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 364 (0.20/day) Thanks: 46 Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts System Specs	erocker u r awesome :P __________________ It's the truth, whats right is right

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slyfox2151 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 2,515 (1.58/day) Thanks: 57 Thanked 528 Times in 470 Posts System Specs	nice catch erocker, dint notice it was in a raid :P __________________ “it's still EA.. they will F* it up. F*ing up games is the only thing they do consistently.” -TRIPTEX_MTL

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jmcslob Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Internet Heaven Posts: 2,703 (1.77/day) Thanks: 782 Thanked 420 Times in 324 Posts System Specs	Ive had this happen a few times Erocker is correct other than what he suggested I also had to do a "Return to an earlier save point"

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richjordan255 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 364 (0.20/day) Thanks: 46 Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts System Specs	erocker you my friend are a chuffin genius i owe you __________________ It's the truth, whats right is right

Jun 11, 2010, 06:31 PM	#22
jmcslob Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Internet Heaven Posts: 2,703 (1.77/day) Thanks: 782 Thanked 420 Times in 324 Posts System Specs	Now go to the start menu and Type "Create a system repair disc" and make one it's easier than using the Win7 installation disc

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