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Old Jun 17, 2010, 07:24 PM   #76
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The cursor thing...happens on both the DP and the standard connectors. If you move the cursor to another screen, it will be fine, but go back to the one that showed the corrupt cursor in the first place, and it will still be corrupt.

Before the "fix", the cursor would be screwed on that monitor until reboot, and now, it goes away as randomly as it appears...so while they've partially fixed it, it;s realyl annoying in-game...it;'s not something that is confined to 2D rendering.

Monitor flicker, for the most part, was fixed with bios editing, so this crap about the higher clock speeds being a fix for that issue is not true at all. It also has NO EFFECT in how the card here clock...so I have no idea why Terry would even say that, except to shut people up.

Mine are high 24/7. The only thing here that causes it is multi-monitor, as I do not clock using software...I will edit the bios to prevent such issues from occuring.
Interesting. I thought I was the only one that was seeing this issue on a dual-monitor setup. The odd thing is that, from what I remember, the issue only seems to affect Vista or Windows 7 systems and appears to be fixed on those running XP. After getting tired of it I put an NVIDIA card in my workstation in the Lab *shudder* which I hated to do but had no other choice. That and I was doing some troubleshooting for a Mechwarrior 3 issue for another forum related to NVIDIA cards going to a black screen when using newer drivers.

Honestly, I'm not sure what the heck is going on with all of these odd display-related issues on the 5-series cards. I've been a die-hard ATI/AMD user ever since the early Pentium days but when this gets to a point where even I have to put an NVIDIA GPU in my system to work normally something is seriously rotten in Denmark.
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Old Jun 17, 2010, 07:38 PM   #77
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Yeah, I don't get it either, other than Dell may have very well been right about the card not outputing a strong enough display signal. At this point, it's the only reasonable answer to the problem I've heard, and AMD and thier board partners are denying there is even a problem at all, and that it must be the monitors.

I'm going to actually test the output signals this weekend...both for signal strength and waveform.

I ogt a new card from XFX on monday, with Black Edition specs...but isn't a Black Edition, and I am going to pick up a couple of non-reference cards to compare iwth the reference, to see if there is any change.

I'm just stubborn, and refuse to give up on them, even though hey seem to have given up on me.

I can now consistently make the cursor bug out...but it will take more testing before I can confirm what I think is happening.
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Yeah, make sure you install the 10.6 application profiles and reboot after installing the drivers. My performance in BC2 tanked hard after installing 10.6 but I missed the application profiles because I was in a rush. I'm back on 10.5 for now but I will try again tonight.
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Huge thanks I forgot about this :-)
Actually I just had the chance to try it again and BC2 is still broken for me on 10.6. Reinstalled-> used Crossfire profiles -> rebooted. When BC2 loads the map I CTD around the time I finish loading. No error message or anything.. just CTD.

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Installed these today and my 2D clocks are nonexistant. Whether Overdrive is enabled or not both GPUs are at 725/1000. If I OC via Afterburner 2D clocks of both GPU's drop to 400/1000. 3D does kick back up to proper clocks, or my OCed clocks if selected.
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Actually I just had the chance to try it again and BC2 is still broken for me on 10.6. Reinstalled-> used Crossfire profiles -> rebooted. When BC2 loads the map I CTD around the time I finish loading. No error message or anything.. just CTD.

Back to 10.5 indefinitely.
10.5! you serious? That has gotta be the worst driver and one that will mess things up big time!
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Installed these today and my 2D clocks are nonexistant. Whether Overdrive is enabled or not both GPUs are at 725/1000. If I OC via Afterburner 2D clocks of both GPU's drop to 400/1000. 3D does kick back up to proper clocks, or my OCed clocks if selected.
you guys must be leaving some driver stragler's behinde when installing the 10.6cat's

Im having no issues at all with this driver... 2d clocks run nice and low and switch to 3d clocks nice and smooth...
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Only if Driver Sweepr is missing something.
you go into the registry and delete ati files? driver sweeper for me has left entries behind for me.
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you go into the registry and delete ati files?
Manually? No. I set DS to clean it. I've looked afterwards and never found anything, but haven't checked for a while.
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Manually? No. I set DS to clean it. I've looked afterwards and never found anything, but haven't checked for a while.
If you had 10.5 ccc installed before I pretty much betcha there are stragglers left behind
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Then do you have to take any action if you buy a brand new ATI HD5000 card, put it into your system, and download the latest driver (Catalyst 10.6)?
I take it that before you download an update, you must go through and remove the drivers in control panel, delete ATI stuff in registry, and use Driver Sweeper in order to ensure stability?
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If you had 10.5 ccc installed before I pretty much betcha there are stragglers left behind
I updated from 10.4a's (I think). Something before 10.5's though and I get 400/1000 for 2d clocks now.


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Then do you have to take any action if you buy a brand new ATI HD5000 card, put it into your system, and download the latest driver (Catalyst 10.6)?
I take it that before you download an update, you must go through and remove the drivers in control panel, delete ATI stuff in registry, and use Driver Sweeper in order to ensure stability?
Yes, I made this little guide for it. http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=52502
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I updated from 10.4a's (I think). Something before 10.5's though and I get 400/1000 for 2d clocks now.




Yes, I made this little guide for it. http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=52502
your using a 5870 - 50 thou are you not?

the others are using 5970's and I was pointing out that sence im using the beast Im not having any problems with 2d clocks...

also your how to remove ccc thread is my golden bible to do a clean install of ati's drivers
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I'm sticking with 10.2 (I think) until the super idle downclocks come back or at least become an option again.
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Yeah, the Eyefinity 6 card is still listed separately. I'll have to try my memory (2d clocks) at 300. I've been doing 300/575 and it's worked well.
but they still didnt support 5x1 potrait mode,
i wonder what driver they used on their booth at computex 2010
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I updated from 10.4a's (I think). Something before 10.5's though and I get 400/1000 for 2d clocks now.

Same with mine. From 10.5 to 10.6 and now my 2D clock in XP is 400/1000
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Same with mine. From 10.5 to 10.6 and now my 2D clock in XP is 400/1000
Old driver stragglers are present man, XP ? common and get with the times!!
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Was 10.3 the last driver to have performance improvements for the ATI 48xx series?
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it should be noted that i still have had no trouble with idle clocks being above normal.

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Specs as shown, card completely stock, connected only to my tv, downloaded and installed last night following erocker's installation guide. I haven't unlocked the Overdrive section in CCC, but the clocks are displaying as 157/300, can I assume that I have escaped the dreaded 2D clock issue, or do I have to enable Overdrive before I can tell?

I did notice corrupted text on the ATI registration window that pops up at the start (don't know why I haven't permanently closed that yet), so I may revert back to 10.4. It seems that ATI's priorty was to coincide with Nvidia's release and increase synthetic benchmark scores, rather than ensuring that the driver was properly tested before becoming available to the public.

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10.5! you serious? That has gotta be the worst driver and one that will mess things up big time!

you guys must be leaving some driver stragler's behinde when installing the 10.6cat's

Im having no issues at all with this driver... 2d clocks run nice and low and switch to 3d clocks nice and smooth...
10.5 works great for me. Solid consistent performance in the games I play. Stable OCs and no 2D/3D issue.

10.6 just breaks BC2 performance. (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=124736) not much else to say about it.
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Specs as shown, card completely stock, connected only to my tv, downloaded and installed last night following erocker's installation guide. I haven't unlocked the Overdrive section in CCC, but the clocks are displaying as 157/300, can I assume that I have escaped the dreaded 2D clock issue, or do I have to enable Overdrive before I can tell?

I did notice corrupted text on the ATI registration window that pops up at the start (don't know why I haven't permanently closed that yet), so I may revert back to 10.4. It seems that ATI's priorty was to coincide with Nvidia's release and increase synthetic benchmark scores, rather than ensuring that the driver was properly tested before becoming available to the public.
you've escaped the bug as well.

i think the 'feature' is present only when you OC, or run dual monitors. Its a bug when it happens to crossfire users.
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The idle clock thing is better for Crossfire multi-mon...10.5, secondary card would get same idle clocks, 10.6, secondary gpu will go down to 157/300, while the main card sits @ 400/12xx.


However, it doesn't fix any issues they claim it does. I'd rather have my lower idle clocks back.

Big testing this weekend...gonna have to install fresh OS and start everything new again...
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No issues, no real performance increases thus far, checked APB and Splinter Cell Conviction.
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