AMD-ATI Merger Looks Likely

[malware]

It sounds nonsense, but here's what Forbes has to say about possible AMD-ATI Corp. Advanced Micro Devices may be looking to buy graphics company ATI Technologies, a move that would benefit the overall graphics industry, according to RBC Capital Markets.

The synergies of this seem consistent with the recent announcements by AMD to significantly increase capacity over the next few-years...We believe ATI is a rare-buy in the semiconductor space right now given the near-term tie-up dynamics.

wrote analyst Apjit Walia.

However, this AMD-ATI tie-up would obviously be a clear-positive for the graphics space.

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Source: Forbes.com

[ChaoticBlankness]

Wow.. I mean.. wow. That would be so strange.

[tofu]

This seems to be a new way to look at things, but I seriously doubt that this is going to happen anytime soon. Think of it, Intel puts ATI chipsets into their own motherboard, now, wouldn't Intel merge with ATI rather than AMD with ATI?

Besides, this is all a bunch of BS that Forbes made up just to get our attention, David Orton isn't as stupid as this, selling off one of the few Canadian stocks found in NASDAQ.

If this does happen, it will be very big indeed, indeed.

[Solaris17]

this would be sooo unbelivably sick so long as amd just owned them and could use their chip making skills and vice versa and ati could still make their own cards without amd's intervention.

[tofu]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

this would be sooo unbelivably sick so long as amd just owned them and could use their chip making skills and vice versa and ati could still make their own cards without amd's intervention.

It would be sikkk if it were this way, but I am not sure how AMD would take in ATI. Either extremeties aren't good.

Extremety 1: The merger is similar to the dell-alienware one. Everything stays the way it was before.

Extremety 2: ATI is eliminated and sold as AMD products.

I go for the inbetween if this happens, ATI making AMD chipsets hehe, NVidia losing market share.

[Solaris17]

^ @ ToFu glad you agree it would be cool i hope they (if it happens) like buy "buy" them out buying an AMD vid card would be kinda F@#$% up.

[pt]

If this happens does socket AMD board still have Nforce chipsets?

[Azn Tr14dZ]

^I was wondering that too.... And will Intel's motherboards like the 975X chipsets still support CrossFire?

[Dippyskoodlez]

Originally Posted by Azn Tr14dZ

^I was wondering that too.... And will Intel's motherboards like the 975X chipsets still support CrossFire?

Hmm.. this would be interesting if AMD did...

AMD would finally be able to produce their own chipsets. and Darn good ones at that.

assuming they keps the graphics cards pumping out, it could be very positive for the video competition...

but chipsets is where the problem could lay..

But this would also further AMD's plans of integrating the pcie bus into the cpu, even possibly the GPU O_O

[bikr692002]

AMD is probally buying ATi because of the 65nm process afaik ati has begun develpoing and AMD needs that to combat the conroe

[Dippyskoodlez]

Originally Posted by bikr692002

AMD is probally buying ATi because of the 65nm process afaik ati has begun develpoing and AMD needs that to combat the conroe

Last I checked, AMD was doing quite well on the 65nm stuff(unlike 90nm). you mean a process further ahead?

[ChaoticBlankness]

I think it will be the dellianware type merger, the ATI name is too strong a market presence.

However, a product line called the AMD Radeon X2k would make me laugh non stop.

[Jimmy 2004]

Well I doubt this will be bad news... two companies that have come into control over the last few years but are now worried they could be toppled by their opposition. This could be great financially. What do you think the name will be? AMD or AMI or ATD?

[DBH]

Also another thing I doubt they would stop supporting Intel mobos with crossfire if they purchased ATI because it wouldn't be profitable for them at all as they miss out on those particular sales which would incidentally go to Intel where there was previously a ATI and Intel partnership.

[bcracer220]

i hate to say it but sum of u guys are not thinking this through... if this merger occurs so much optimization can be done so that all amd proc's work awesome with ati gfx cards. who cares whether or not ati still has its name on the stuff. Together they will also be able to create kick-ass chipsets as well.

[OOTay]

they wouldnt rename ATi, becuase AMD is directed as a "Gamer's" type processor and AMD knows gamers ... they know if the eliminate the name ATi everyone will be pissed off at AMD and that is a very very bad thing for business. thats just my oppinion on it.

[tofu]

Originally Posted by OOTay

they wouldnt rename ATi, becuase AMD is directed as a "Gamer's" type processor and AMD knows gamers ... they know if the eliminate the name ATi everyone will be pissed off at AMD and that is a very very bad thing for business. thats just my oppinion on it.

Yes, I'd have to agree with this. ATI's presence in the market will be too great to sacrifice for the sake of it.

@ ChaoticBlankness, I'm sure this would be a dellianware-type merger, not that great, but I would like to see those RD580 chipsets amd-edition heh heh

EDIT: and yes, AMD may integrate graphic cores and pcie lanes into their cpus soon

[Steevo]

Harrr.

Scenerios


1) AMD buys ATI for the arcitecture (sp) tech, leading to better CPU-GPU hand in hand co-processsing and better gaming machines.

2) AMD falls behind in the CPU division while they are at the forefront due to a trip and fall.



Really if it does happen it isn't suprising. The new series of GPU's have lightyears of reasearch more than their CPU bretheren. Imagine a CPU with a ringbus, DDR3 or 2 or just DDR, it doesn't care. Latentcy overcome by more high speed links and better prefetch logic. FLOPS out the ass.


ATI is on to something big, and AMD is 2 years away from another profitable one. What better time to get a new look at things.

[KennyT772]

what ati and amd should do is just the partnership type deal. that way pci-e can be furthered in design along with better busses on cpus and more bandwidth to the gpu.

[wickerman]

I'll believe this when dell starts selling opterons

I really dont have any fealings one way or another, however it was a bit of a shocker when I first read it. Intel did well with their ATI deal for the lower end chipsets, and AMD have paired well with Nvidia through their Nforce chipsets. Maybe green and red goes better than green and green
But then again, if I knew anything about economics I'd prolly have a bigger income

[Dippyskoodlez]

Originally Posted by wickerman

I'll believe this when dell starts selling opterons

I do hope you know dell IS selling opterons now

[ChaoticBlankness]

I'm pretty sure he knows...

[eefrit]

why ATI? why not NVIDIA?

i think NVIDIA is more identic to AMD...
see..where there are nFORCE there are AMD..

well..maybe its about that 65nm thing

[EastCoasthandle]

Wow, just wow, none of you are really thinking this through. This looks to me a cut throat move to stop AMD bleeding with Conroe right now. So many AMD folks have jump boat to Conroe its not even funny. What I see as a possibility of all ATI products exclusive to AMD. For those that like Conroe & DX10 could be put to halt. Vista BETTER YET, Vienna sells could be affected by this merger as most know AM2 will not cope with those new OS (until shown different, not assumed different).

We all are anticipating Vienna's new OS implementation which will take us to new heights...better then XP did to win95. If this merger goes through it will put the AMD/Intel war to the fore front and us as consumers on the front line. I don't like the idea of being told " I must buy this and this only" if I want DX10 or proper implementation of Vienna graphics. I am sure you don't either. But truth be told the possibility of this happening exists. If I want to be told that I will buy a console like Wii, PS3 or 360.

Nvidia on the other hand will be hurting way to much to help Intel and they may need to step in and help out. From Am folk, joy at the misery of others who prefer an CPU other then AMD for this is good news for them. And, they get what they want anyway...a way for AMD to retaliate against Intel.

The real issues we will face are, but not limited to:
-the obvious exclusive rights to ATI video cards
-consumer's lack of choices that drove the industry to reduce price point on their products

That's right, I said it...what’s the likelihood that prices will drop if this merger takes place. If your sick head thinks it will, remain sick. With this exclusive right to ATI, AMD can charge anything they want, and they will. Do you see any AMD cpus as "economically friendly" recently? No, gee I wonder why they changed their minds?

[Polaris573]

I have to agree with eastcoast. History has proven that whenever choices diminish the consumer suffers.

However, I completely disagree with how he went about presenting his idea. Using words like "AMDiots" to imply that AMD users are fools, only shows your own ignorance not the other way around.