random freezes wile playing 3d apps

[DR.Death]

Hi my computer is randomly freezing I know it is a hardware problem because I re formatted my computer just last weekend. It locks solid and the sound repeats its self and nothing moves it is not a heat problem because my computer runs around 36 idle and about 47 under load

[pt]

it happens in every 3d apps?

[trog100]

its what i would describe as simple instability probem.. the classic type thing u look for after tweaking.. something dosnt like the speed it running at..

trog

[DR.Death]

The thing is that every thing is still at stock I have not overclocked anything and it is in everything even windows when I try to do too much it will freeze

[Shens]

hello

if you are running a nvidia card there is a problem which does this - it's a malfunction of the drivers, the problem being nv4_disp.dll - this brings the card into an infinite loop which it can't get itself out of and locks the pc up, along with repeating the sound over and over.

i recommend you uninstall your graphics card drivers and install the new ones.

i hope this helps

[DR.Death]

i am using a 9250 by ati . i also have replaced the wires to my hard drive and cd drive next i am going to take out my sound card and then my video card and then try my ram just to rual all that out

[trog100]

if its all at stock.. the classic symtom of instabilty still fts.. i have seen it many times but usually after some tweaking..

u are on the right path.. something isnt quite right.. one part dosnt like another part or something equally silly..

is everthing showing okay in device mangler.. ????

trog

[Yin]

Originally Posted by Shens

hello

if you are running a nvidia card there is a problem which does this - it's a malfunction of the drivers, the problem being nv4_disp.dll - this brings the card into an infinite loop which it can't get itself out of and locks the pc up, along with repeating the sound over and over.

i recommend you uninstall your graphics card drivers and install the new ones.

i hope this helps

I got the same problem but i have an nvidia card and I have tried downloading new drivers and everything still doesnt help any ideas??

I get the blue screen error saying nv4_disp.dll

[DR.Death]

I have tried every thing I can think of and still no luck I am thinking it is a major problem now like my hard drive or motherboard or my Processor

[trog100]

still leaves u the problem of finding out what part is causing the problem.. swopping out and slowing each piece down below default speeds is the only thing u can do..

i dont think its your hardrive.. but u need to check for file corruption.. which isnt easy to do.. but data corruption usually shows up during game loads not while its actually running..

trog

[DR.Death]

it is to do with my software i ran prime 95 and it has pased . now the fun begians is to find the file or peace of software

[gR3iF]

how long has it passed?

and did you try to let ati tool run on scab for artifacts settings see what is happening??

[DR.Death]

it is not anny hardware like my video card and floppy and ram and soundcard .. almost every thing i have replaced and tested and it still was the same. the only things that are left are my harddrive and motherboard. i know my cpu is not doing it because i ran prime 95 and it showed no erors. when it hapens i cant do anthing but restart thats all i can do

[trog100]

"i know my cpu is not doing it because i ran prime 95"

thats a mistake many people make.. u cannot guarantee it isnt your cpu just cos it runs prime..

the only real guarantee it isnt your cpu would be to replace it and still have the same problem.. and even that isnt 100% he he

if it is your cpu.. just for arguements sake.. running it faster or on a lower core volatge should make the problem worse.. running slower.. even well below default speed and possibly raising the core voltage should make it better..

if u play this kinda game with all the individual components some kind of worse/better signs should show up..

if whatever u do with an individual component dosnt make the slightest difference.. its a sign to look elsewhere..

if its piece of hardware u cant speed up or slow down.. well u cant play this sort of game.. but messing with speeds with a problem component.. will definitely make things better or worse.. some kinda change will happen..

with components u cant speed or voltage change.. swopping out is the only answer..

i aint talking overclock problems here.. just a way of finding the dodgy component when it isnt easy just to swop out..

messing with speeds and voltages will alter things one way or another.. if u can..

even if u make it worse.. u at least know u are on the right track..

trog

[gR3iF]

psu?
that might be, because of load due to the 3d ap

[DR.Death]

I have done every thing the only thing that is left in software and I think I know what is doing it now it is the only thing that is the same scence it has been reformatted and that is my copy of xp I have a non legitimate copy and I think that’s what is doing it is just like it is not compatible with this computer so I am thinking on trying to reinstall xp and just crack it and don’t put my version on and see if that fixes it and it is not my psu because it is stable on it voltages

[trog100]

yes.. i have spent countless hours trying to fix PCs that aint behaving themselves..

the fix usually turns out to be simple.. finding the probem is the hard part.. i dont go for the dodgy windows theory but then again i have tried many possible fixes i havnt gone for when everthing else has failed.. he he he

when u fix it let us know..

trog

[Yin]

Originally Posted by gR3iF

psu?
that might be, because of load due to the 3d ap

Yeh check your psu,
does it work when u put it on a loop test in 3dmark?

[DR.Death]

it is not my harddrive or windows or anny other software thire are 3 things left to try but i cant try them because they are my cpu and ram and mother board and no it is not my psu. i have run out of ideas so some help would be gratly helpfull

[DR.Death]

I am thinking it is my motherboard because I had an old psu go not to long ago and it has gotten worse so that’s my thoughts for now

[DR.Death]

Another update it is the motherboard I am phoning the point of purchase 2morrow to find out what I can do if I can return it if not then amd here I come. Here is what I would be buying this if I cant return my asus board Sapphire Radeon X1800GTO 256MB DVI+VIVO PCI-E AMD S939 3700+ L1 128k L2 1024k ASUS A8N5X S939 nF4 PCIe ALC850 LAN

[toenzchiey]

hey DR.Death! got same prob here! im also using ati radeon 9250 128mb.. and got the same prob.. my 3D games also hangs.. but when i used my friends ati Radeon 9200se 64mb, they worked fine.. i also put my video card to his system and installed some of my games, they worked fine too! its kinda wierd! i dont know what to do..any advise? for now.. we swapped our cards..

[DR.Death]

i dont know if i have the same problem because i tryed it with a nvida card and i still did the same