AMD's Fusion ''Ontario'' APU Chip Pictured

[btarunr]

At the ongoing IFA event in Berlin, AMD displayed one of the first derivatives of its Bobcat low-power x86 processor architecture, codenamed "Ontario". This Fusion APU (accelerated processing unit), which is a combination of an x86 CPU and a DirectX 11 compliant GPU is built for low-power devices such as netbooks, handhelds, and tablets. AMD also showed off the chip package itself, which is roughly the size of a 1 Euro coin. The package, like AMD's mobile Athlon/Phenom processors, has no integrated heatspreader (IHS), but like the Intel Atom, uses a ball-grid array (BGA) to permanently fix itself to the system board.

AMD claims that the chip offers "mainstream performance" at less than half the die area (in this case, below 100 mm²), and a fraction of the power. Speaking of which, the "Ontario" Fusion APU has a TDP of 9W, while a higher-performance APU codenamed "Zacate", which is probably competitive with Intel's CULV processors, and is built for ultra-thin notebooks, nettops and slim all-in-one PCs, has a TDP of 18W. AMD claims that the two will ship (to OEMs, because these are not end-user products) in Q4 2010. For the desktop, AMD is developing the "Llano" Fusion APUs that are of a different form-factor and package altogether.



Source: Computerbase.de

[MrAlex]

8W TDP? Very nice! I expect to see a 1W TDP in the future AMD

[newtekie1]

I hope this gives Atom a nice kick in the ass.

[Sasqui]

Very cool. Wonder if/how they will be able to scale with these in parallel.

OT: "Ontario"? Why not name the other chip "Erie" or "Quebec"?

[INSTG8R]

Originally Posted by Sasqui

Very cool. Wonder if/how they will be able to scale with these in parallel.

OT: "Ontario"? Why not name the other chip "Erie" or "Quebec"?

What I was thinking and why are they shown next to a Loonie or a Toonie

[HalfAHertz]

OMG it's so tiny! Any guesses on the GPU power? Must be in the ballpark of a hd4200 with that miniscule size.

[Frogger]

Originally Posted by Sasqui

Very cool. Wonder if/how they will be able to scale with these in parallel.

OT: "Ontario"? Why not name the other chip "Erie" or "Quebec"?

It's either a small tribute or a b## slap ...... with the lost of the ATI banner ther might be a few staff here with ???? about the future... how many who knows? From the # of locations {att pic} that # could be large

[a_ump]

Never know, redwood is quite small but packs 400SPU's, maybe this'll manage like 240-320 or something. That wouldn't be bad at all, and hella efficient, esp compared to Ion.

I compare it to ion since ion is the only netbook config that has acceptable performance. But it's not gonna surprise me one bit if this new "ontario" by AMD sets the bar a decent bit higher.

[suraswami]

nice.

is this a single or dual-core chip?

[Hayder_Master]

bye bye atom

[Sasqui]

Originally Posted by Frogger

It's either a small tribute or a b## slap ...... with the lost of the ATI banner ther might be a few staff here with ???? about the future... how many who knows? From the # of locations {att pic} that # could be large

I totaly forgot ATI was from Canada! At least originally...

[Static~Charge]

Originally Posted by suraswami

is this a single or dual-core chip?

The Ontario is a dual-core chip:

AMD itself recently confirmed that Ontario -- which features two x86 cores based on Bobcat micro-architecture, integrated DirectX 11-class graphics core and DDR3 memory controller -- is actually a single-chip system-on-chip (SoC) device.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...n_Process.html

Preliminary performance numbers look good compared to the Atom D510.

[suraswami]

Originally Posted by Static~Charge

The Ontario is a dual-core chip:

AMD itself recently confirmed that Ontario -- which features two x86 cores based on Bobcat micro-architecture, integrated DirectX 11-class graphics core and DDR3 memory controller -- is actually a single-chip system-on-chip (SoC) device.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...n_Process.html

Preliminary performance numbers look good compared to the Atom D510.

Seems perfect for a low power sucking server

[mastrdrver]

I about shat myself when I noticed the die size between the two in relation to the transistor count and process node.

die shot comparison of Bobcat vs Atom

More information in the thread

Best part of the Hardware-Info article:

......The TDP of the "Zacate" module is specified by AMD as 18 Watts, and the used aluminum heatspreader (ca. 4 x 4 x 2 cm + fan) dif not even get hand-warm, after several minutes of 3-D applications and video-acceleration.....................We could bring AMD to make a statement about the performance: the Zacate APU should be appreciably faster than an Intel Core-based Pentium dual core.......

[wolf]

I'm very interested to see how much GPU power this packs... 80sp's worth in ATi terms is barely viable for gaming, 320 odd or more and were really talking.

the Mobility Radeon HD 5430 which as 80sp's @ 550MHz is rated around 7 watt... so really I'm not sure whether they will be able to pull a rabbit out of the hat on this one. having said that I believe 7w does include it's onboard memory .

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by wolf

I'm very interested to see how much GPU power this packs... 80sp's worth in ATi terms is barely viable for gaming, 320 odd or more and were really talking.

the Mobility Radeon HD 5430 which as 80sp's @ 550MHz is rated around 7 watt... so really I'm not sure whether they will be able to pull a rabbit out of the hat on this one. having said that I believe 7w does include it's onboard memory .

even if its no good for gaming, you're still gunna get hardware accelerated H264, bluray, and flash playback - at levels far above what intels best can offer.

[mastrdrver]

Originally Posted by wolf

I'm very interested to see how much GPU power this packs... 80sp's worth in ATi terms is barely viable for gaming, 320 odd or more and were really talking.

the Mobility Radeon HD 5430 which as 80sp's @ 550MHz is rated around 7 watt... so really I'm not sure whether they will be able to pull a rabbit out of the hat on this one. having said that I believe 7w does include it's onboard memory .

320 SP!? This is Bobcat not Llano.

This is for netbook/ultra portable and some very entry level desktop. Basically where ever Atom is at Bobcat is going to be AMD's offer.

This is like taking a dual core Wolfdale with a 5350 and putting it in a netbook and only having 18W for both parts max. It has the possibility of being so bad that it is rumored that Intel is getting a Sandy Bridge variant ready just in case. That alone should give a clear sign of what Intel thinks of not only Bobcat but also Atom. Problem with that is the SB part will be expensive, Bobcat shouldn't.

[a_ump]

Originally Posted by mastrdrver

I about shat myself when I noticed the die size between the two in relation to the transistor count and process node.

die shot comparison of Bobcat vs Atom

More information in the thread

Best part of the Hardware-Info article:

wow, did you see how small ontario's bobcat cpu's are compared intel's atoms? dam its gonna rock, imagine if they had just those and no GPU, much smaller die. That'd make a great netbook cpu imo for the cheaper ones.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Mussels

even if its no good for gaming, you're still gunna get hardware accelerated H264, bluray, and flash playback - at levels far above what intels best can offer.

let's hope that Intel stops resting on its laurels in terms of Atom and gets back into gear, IMO Atom has not made much progress since the first netbooks.

[Tartaros]

Originally Posted by Mussels

even if its no good for gaming, you're still gunna get hardware accelerated H264, bluray, and flash playback - at levels far above what intels best can offer.

Even if we quit the high end 3d games, there are casual and light games that will get a nice upgrade, for example torchlight.

At the screen resolution the netbooks usually have, this gpu fairly good.

[Faith[ROG].Anarchy]

Goodbye Atom
Ontario, welcome

[Techtu]

Originally Posted by MrAlex

8W TDP? Very nice! I expect to see a 1W TDP in the future AMD

I agree... there is no competition against Intel in this market!! or IF there is I'm struggling to hear of who?

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by Tech2

I agree... there is no competition against Intel in this market!! or IF there is I'm struggling to hear of who?

Via is a player in the ITX/compact market, but they dont have enough to go around, so they're not in many products.

[WarEagleAU]

Very very cool and I Would love to see some of them smart phones get some of these APUs in them. Give the Snapdragon a run for its money.

[AsphyxiA]

Originally Posted by WarEagleAU

Very very cool and I Would love to see some of them smart phones get some of these APUs in them. Give the Snapdragon a run for its money.

exactly what I was thinking. More for the AMD (cough::ATI::cough) GPU built in.