Phenom II X4 970 BE 3.50 GHz

Omega · Sep 20, 2010, 06:28 PM

To read this review go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...nom_II_X4_970/

(FIH) The Don · Sep 21, 2010, 04:23 AM

meh....but why AMD

but good review

wolf · Sep 21, 2010, 04:51 AM

good that it displaces old models from their pricepoints, but 3.6ghz would have been better to see.

(FIH) The Don · Sep 21, 2010, 04:53 AM

if they really wanted something nice then 4ghz, from 3.4 to 3.5 is just M-E-H

Kitkat · Sep 21, 2010, 05:30 AM

bleh .. should have been 975 @ 125. Do you guys have a 95w 955 yet?? i was looking forward to that too and i think it would have been great too bad its like... 4 months late tho. I hope u review that good review tho thanx

Quote:

Originally Posted by (FIH) The Don

if they really wanted something nice then 4ghz, from 3.4 to 3.5 is just M-E-H

yeah should have started out at 3.8 or so, but its a good treat for those JUST buying or those who always buy at the end of a GEN and i know ppl like that. I dont see much more from this, but obviously not worth the upgrade. This should have been like to OEM only or vendors only i duno. oddball chip

Wyverex · Sep 21, 2010, 07:10 AM

What I'd like to see is a bump in Northbridge speed, as it's been reported that it increases performance in many cases, especially in applications that are not optimized for many cores.
Had this CPU been 3.5 GHz CPU freq / 2.2 GHz Northbridge freq, it would've been an ever better CPU performance-wise and it would've been more competitive with Intel's offerings.

This way, I'll have to agree with "meh"

MrMilli · Sep 21, 2010, 12:43 PM

Comparing to the i5 750 seems a bit useless to me since that CPU has been replaced by the i5 760.

afw · Sep 21, 2010, 01:36 PM

Good review

....

(I can hold on to my C2Q system a liitle longer I guess

)

hat · Sep 21, 2010, 01:50 PM

Looks like the 6-core 1055t is lagging behind... wtf?

brandonwh64 · Sep 21, 2010, 01:59 PM

IMO this CPU isnt worth it. A 6-core would be around the same price range with better OCing ability. This release of this older CPU was kinda a waist and should have focused more of bulldozer

Mindweaver · Sep 21, 2010, 02:11 PM

Not bad, but i would spend the extra cash and get a 1055T... I want bulldozer now please!... hehehe

Edit: Or get a 1075T Black and Great Review!

Omega · Sep 21, 2010, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMilli

Comparing to the i5 750 seems a bit useless to me since that CPU has been replaced by the i5 760.

Don't have the i5 760 at hand, sorry

Major_A · Sep 21, 2010, 03:33 PM

Have you looked at LAMEXP? It's GUI audio encoder that is core aware. If you have 2 cores it will use 2 cores. If you have 12 threads it will use 12 threads. You can also specify to use only one core/thread if you want to test CPUs.

http://mulder.dummwiedeutsch.de/home...rojects#lamexp

newtekie1 · Sep 21, 2010, 03:44 PM

Good review, and the 760's performance isn't that much different than the 750, so it isn't a big deal that it isn't included.

demonkevy666 · Sep 21, 2010, 04:06 PM

970 BE can't be 258 mm², because it's a thuban chip with disabled cores
it should be 346 mm²
aslo should have included Nb overclock as E0 do better on NB then C2 & C3 chips.

claylomax · Sep 21, 2010, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonkevy666

970 BE can't be 258 mm², because it's a thuban chip with disabled cores
it should be 346 mm²
aslo should have included Nb overclock as E0 do better on NB then C2 & C3 chips.

What?

cadaveca · Sep 21, 2010, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonkevy666

970 BE can't be 258 mm², because it's a thuban chip with disabled cores
it should be 346 mm²
aslo should have included Nb overclock as E0 do better on NB then C2 & C3 chips.

I guess you didn't read the review...cpu-z shows this is a C3 chip. Makes your request of NB clocking un-necessary.

newtekie1 · Sep 21, 2010, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

I guess you didn't read the review...cpu-z shows this is a C3 chip. Makes your request of NB clocking un-necessary.

Why read when there are all those fancy colored pictures about.

Wait, the pictures tell you this information too...

jmcslob · Sep 21, 2010, 06:53 PM

Nice review Omega...

Actually a nice chip too..just seems a little late to be out

Poisonsnak · Sep 21, 2010, 10:55 PM

Great review, pretty much slots right in where you would expect it to.

Too bad they didn't stick with their old numbering scheme (ends in 0 = AM2+ no DDR3 e.g. 920, 940, ends in 5 = AM3 DDR3 e.g. 945, 965) but I guess they already broke it with the 1090T anyway.

alexsubri · Sep 22, 2010, 12:53 AM

glad to see my 965 was a great investment

xtremesv · Sep 22, 2010, 02:08 AM

Then I have a Phenom X4 975 BE (undervolt a little bit btw)

I'm very happy with it

WarEagleAU · Sep 22, 2010, 04:27 AM

Awesome review and a nice speed bump for AMD to offer. I cant wait to see more Hexacores come out personally.

Bjorn_Of_Iceland · Sep 22, 2010, 06:14 AM

1.47 volts for a 3.9ghz wth

crazyeyesreaper · Sep 22, 2010, 06:20 AM

yea that last jump always takes volt 3.8 - 1.425 4ghz = 1.525 volt jump is crazy on PII when it comes to eeking out that last bit of performance

Sep 20, 2010, 06:28 PM	#1
Omega Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sibenik - Croatia Posts: 144 (0.11/day) Thanks: 17 Thanked 145 Times in 47 Posts	Phenom II X4 970 BE 3.50 GHz To read this review go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...nom_II_X4_970/ Last edited by Omega; Sep 21, 2010 at 07:33 AM.

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Sep 21, 2010, 06:53 PM	#19
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Sep 22, 2010, 04:27 AM	#23
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