Performance degradation

ivicagmc · Sep 23, 2010, 03:10 PM

What could cause graphics performance to reduce in windows 7. First I notice that FPS in starcraft 2 and borderlands has split in half. Since my system was quite old (around 5 months)and full of crap, I reinstalled it. Now borderlands is working better but not like before, Far Cry 2 likewise, and most interesting thing is that windows performance index for my 5770 has reduced from 7.4 to 7.3, both in gaming and aero. Everything else is the same as was before. Now, I tried putting old drivers, and some other things, but last big thing I did before everything started was putting new MB BIOS (asus M3A). I tried to put old one back but asus flash wont let me to put older version.
My question is how to return to older BIOS and is there some settings in bios that might cause all this?

hat · Sep 23, 2010, 05:20 PM

You could make a bootable USB flash drive and throw DOS on it, then copy the BIOS files over and flash it that way.

ivicagmc · Sep 23, 2010, 06:30 PM

OK, This is rely strange. I removed graphics card, clean it a little bit, reinserted and now everything is as it should be. It was'n dirty, I cleaned it 2 days ago.... What could possibly be that I did before, to cause all this?????

hat · Sep 23, 2010, 09:04 PM

Maybe the PCI-E lanes are dirty.

erixx · Sep 23, 2010, 09:10 PM

Now seriously: Maybe your GPU fan was not spinning!

sneekypeet · Sep 24, 2010, 12:05 AM

I see issues where the card doesnt get seated exactly correct all the time. Its completely feasable the dirt or just not getting the card in the slot all the way could easily bring performance down.

jasper1605 · Sep 24, 2010, 12:07 AM

this is interesting. I'm going to have to give my system a thorough cleaning if I ever notice some degradation. Thanks for bringing this up!

Techtu · Sep 24, 2010, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jasper1605

this is interesting. I'm going to have to give my system a thorough cleaning if I ever notice some degradation. Thanks for bringing this up!

I personally can't see the dust/dirt getting caught in the PCI lanes & etc. Once fitted the components should be a snug fitting... hence the stability

As the OP said 2 days ago he cleaned out his rig and then noticed the degradation, this was probably the result of some dust getting caught when he/she was fitting the components back together.

jasper1605 · Sep 24, 2010, 12:16 AM

A good point as well lol. My system could still use a good cleaning as it hasn't gotten pampered in a few months since I changed the PSU out lol.

Techtu · Sep 24, 2010, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasper1605

A good point as well lol. My system could still use a good cleaning as it hasn't gotten pampered in a few months since I changed the PSU out lol.

Canned air is the best thing for the job

EastCoasthandle · Sep 24, 2010, 12:27 AM

More then likely the several reboots is what did it. Not something that is needed often.

Raovac · Sep 24, 2010, 12:27 AM

Since when is a 5 month old rig concidered OLD????

Techtu · Sep 24, 2010, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raovac

Since when is a 5 month old rig concidered OLD????

I suppose it depends on how often it is used and how good/bad the user is at keeping it clean/virus free.

Sep 23, 2010, 03:10 PM	#1
ivicagmc Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 166 (0.14/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 31 Times in 25 Posts System Specs	Performance degradation What could cause graphics performance to reduce in windows 7. First I notice that FPS in starcraft 2 and borderlands has split in half. Since my system was quite old (around 5 months)and full of crap, I reinstalled it. Now borderlands is working better but not like before, Far Cry 2 likewise, and most interesting thing is that windows performance index for my 5770 has reduced from 7.4 to 7.3, both in gaming and aero. Everything else is the same as was before. Now, I tried putting old drivers, and some other things, but last big thing I did before everything started was putting new MB BIOS (asus M3A). I tried to put old one back but asus flash wont let me to put older version. My question is how to return to older BIOS and is there some settings in bios that might cause all this?

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Sep 23, 2010, 05:20 PM	#2
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,247 (5.10/day) Thanks: 2,056 Thanked 2,045 Times in 1,555 Posts System Specs	You could make a bootable USB flash drive and throw DOS on it, then copy the BIOS files over and flash it that way. __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

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Motherboard:	Gigabyte GA-870A-USB3L AM3+
Cooling:	OCZ Vanquisher
Memory:	2x4 GB Patriot 1600MHz CR1
Video Card:	Sapphire 5770 900/1300MHz
Hard Disk:	WD 3200AAKS, WD 1002FAEX
Optical Drive:	ASUS DRW-24B1ST
CRT/LCD Model:	Dell U2312HM eIPS
Case:	Chieftec BX-02B-B-SL
PSU:	Chieftec CFT-600-14CS 600W MODULAR
Software:	Windows 7 Pro

Sep 23, 2010, 06:30 PM	#3
ivicagmc Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 166 (0.14/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 31 Times in 25 Posts System Specs	OK, This is rely strange. I removed graphics card, clean it a little bit, reinserted and now everything is as it should be. It was'n dirty, I cleaned it 2 days ago.... What could possibly be that I did before, to cause all this?????

Sep 23, 2010, 09:04 PM	#4
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,247 (5.10/day) Thanks: 2,056 Thanked 2,045 Times in 1,555 Posts System Specs	Maybe the PCI-E lanes are dirty. __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

Sep 23, 2010, 09:10 PM	#5
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Sep 24, 2010, 12:07 AM	#7
jasper1605 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,178 (0.89/day) Thanks: 356 Thanked 228 Times in 191 Posts System Specs	this is interesting. I'm going to have to give my system a thorough cleaning if I ever notice some degradation. Thanks for bringing this up! __________________ 1 in 8 people in the world do not have access to clean water. 20 Liters is trying to do something to change 750,000,000 people's lives. Click to help - Love life and live a life of love - If you would like prayer for anything going on in your life or someone else's send me a PM My Heat 11-0-0 My Sig Rig Pics -Updated 11/1/10 TPU Eyefinity Club

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Sep 24, 2010, 12:16 AM	#9
jasper1605 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,178 (0.89/day) Thanks: 356 Thanked 228 Times in 191 Posts System Specs	A good point as well lol. My system could still use a good cleaning as it hasn't gotten pampered in a few months since I changed the PSU out lol. __________________ 1 in 8 people in the world do not have access to clean water. 20 Liters is trying to do something to change 750,000,000 people's lives. Click to help - Love life and live a life of love - If you would like prayer for anything going on in your life or someone else's send me a PM My Heat 11-0-0 My Sig Rig Pics -Updated 11/1/10 TPU Eyefinity Club

Sep 24, 2010, 12:27 AM	#11
EastCoasthandle Eligible for custom title Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 6,244 (2.09/day) Thanks: 382 Thanked 1,528 Times in 865 Posts System Specs	More then likely the several reboots is what did it. Not something that is needed often. __________________ Windows 7 Club!, Online Gaming Lag and You GPU/CPU Water Cooling Club, Q9650 OC'd vs 2600K Stock PC Air Cooling Club, Game Performance Tips

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