GeForce GTX 580 Expected to be 20% Faster than GeForce GTX 480

[btarunr]

NVIDIA's next enthusiast-grade graphics processor, the GeForce GTX 580, based on the new GF110 silicon, is poised for at least a paper-launch by end of November, or early December, 2010. Sources in the video card industry told DigiTimes that the GTX 580 is expected to be 20% faster than the existing GeForce GTX 480. The new GPU is built on the existing 40 nm process, NVIDIA's 28 nm GPUs based on the Kepler architecture are expected to take shape only towards the end of 2011. Later this week, AMD is launching the Radeon HD 6800 series performance graphics cards, and will market-launch its next high-end GPU, codenamed "Cayman" in November.

Source: DigiTimes

[FordGT90Concept]

20% hotter and more power draw too? XD

[assaulter_99]

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

BTW, the "to" doesn't sound right in the title.

GeForce GTX 580 Expected to be 20% Faster than GeForce GTX 480

Is that ok?

Ok, so you owe me one BTA!

[wahdangun]

maybe what they mean was the "wooden" version will be launching at December

[HXL492]

This is interesting, wonder how the cayman would fare.

[983264]

Before NV says that, they must beat the 5970 in dual gpu segment...

[motasim]

... and exactly how many nuclear power stations are required to power it ...

... but look at the bright side; you won't need any gas cooker after you get this GPU ...

[Atom_Anti]

Haha, the new GrillForce is coming! Chefs going to like it.

[Fourstaff]

Hmmm, If you would consider GTX480 with 10% higher clock speed and all 512 cores.....

[entropy13]

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

Hmmm, If you would consider GTX480 with 10% higher clock speed and all 512 cores.....

And it's an entirely new generation!

[Red_Machine]

Originally Posted by btarunr

poised for at least a paper-launch by end of November, or early December, 2010.

What? THAT soon?

[20mmrain]

So let me get this straight Nvidia is going to launch a Architecture early that wasn't supposed to be launched until 2011 and they couldn't get Fermi out on time.... yeah right!

[HardSide]

Originally Posted by Red_Machine

What? THAT soon?

It's just a paper launch, they need to counter ATI new card that they announced. Been a nvidia fan boy for a while now, but if they dont fix the problems that were in the 400 series, they going to lose a lot of fan base.

[wahdangun]

Originally Posted by Red_Machine

What? THAT soon?

yeah just like fermi, they just paper dragon until six month later

[DanTheMan]

And as the story goes ... After the 580 series, 1 month later AMD will answer back with a 15% increase, then NVidia will promise a 680 series (another 10% gain) then AMD .........

Same story .... over and over ..... It never ends folks!

[derwin75]

This is good but it's only words. Action speaks louder than words. All I can do is wait and see when it comes out.

[Bjorn_Of_Iceland]

Originally Posted by DanTheMan

And as the story goes ... After the 580 series, 1 month later AMD will answer back with a 15% increase, then NVidia will promise a 680 series (another 10% gain) then AMD .........

Same story .... over and over ..... It never ends folks!

Its a half empty / half full conundrum

[Sasqui]

End of 2011? meh.

[Benetanegia]

GF104 = 384 SP = 2 x GPC

GF110 = 3 x GPC = 576 SP

576/480 = 1.2 = +20%

Power consumption on Furmark

GTX460 = 155 W = 336 SP

GF110 = (155 W x 576 SP) / 336 SP = 265 W



iGame GTX460 = 141 W
GF110(?) = (141 x 576) / 336 = 241 W

[SNICK]

oh my god only 20% faster than gtx 480!
there were also speculation about doubled gf100

now there is no way nvidia can steal AMD's thunder

[SNICK]

Originally Posted by benetanegia

gf104 = 384 sp = 2 x gpc

gf110 = 3 x gpc = 576 sp

576/480 = 1.2 = +20%

power consumption on furmark

gtx460 = 155 w = 336 sp

gf110 = (155 w x 576 sp) / 336 sp = 265 w

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/colorful/i...er_maximum.gif

igame gtx460 = 141 w
gf110(?) = (141 x 576) / 336 = 241 w

fyi . Tdp is dependent on several factors other than ONLY shaders count

[CharlO]

Wait, 20% faster than a 480 is like a 5870 oc'd (well something more) but it is definetly slower than a promised 6870... They are not even getting even on paper now?

[SNICK]

Originally Posted by charlo

wait, 20% faster than a 480 is like a 5870 oc'd (well something more) but it is definetly slower than a promised 6870... They are not even getting even on paper now?

i think you mean 6970

[Benetanegia]

Originally Posted by SNICK

fyi . Tdp is dependent on several factors other than ONLY shaders count

FYI, Fermi cards are based only on 2 type of clusters, GPC and ROP partitions, every card is just a conbination of the two. .

GPC = SPs + TMUs + rasterizers + setup engines + tesselators (Polymorph) + L1 cache

ROP partition = ROPs + memory controllers + L2 cache

When something increases everything increases by the same amount as long as the GPC is equal. GF100 and GF104 GPCs are different.

You want me to speculate power consumption based on ROP partitions?

GF104 = 2 ROP partitions = 155 W
GF110 = 3 ROP partitions = (155 x3) / 2 = 232 W

Other than silicon increase the only thing that affects power consumption is clock speed which I speculated is going to be the same more or less, and that it won't affect too much: as can be seen on the chart I provided @820 Mhz (quite an OC) the power is 176 W.

[Ghost]

Originally Posted by CharlO

Wait, 20% faster than a 480 is like a 5870 oc'd (well something more) but it is definetly slower than a promised 6870... They are not even getting even on paper now?

20% faster than a 480 is like a 480 oc'd

So it should be somewhat faster than 5970 http://tpucdn.com/reviews/MSI/N480GT...es/perfrel.gif