NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 SLI - Page 2

newtekie1 · Nov 9, 2010, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PopcornMachine

My mistake. 27fps is playable. Have fun with that.

I get pretty steady 60FPS, but you just keep up those ignorant posts.

PopcornMachine · Nov 9, 2010, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by newtekie1

I get pretty steady 60FPS, but you just keep up those ignorant posts.

Sure you do.

Hey look, it's a unicorn!

ShogoXT · Nov 9, 2010, 09:26 PM

I had crossfire 4850s and 4890s. Not doing it anymore considering microstutter and min fps. Single powerful GPU is where its at.

Black Panther · Nov 9, 2010, 09:27 PM

OK guys let's remember the title of this thread now?

Sadasius · Nov 9, 2010, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ShogoXT

I had crossfire 4850s and 4890s. Not doing it anymore considering microstutter and min fps. Single powerful GPU is where its at.

I also prefer the single powerful GPU. You always have to rely that Sli or CrossFire profiles are being updated and many of the times it has errors. I had it both ways and I prefer it the single powerful GPU to be the best and much more smooth in game play and system stability.

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Originally Posted by Black Panther

OK guys let's remember the title of this thread now?

"NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 SLI " K now what?!?

Oh crap you did not say 'Simon says'!

newtekie1 · Nov 9, 2010, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PopcornMachine

Sure you do.

Hey look, it's a unicorn!

I guess you missed my point about being able to turn down setting in the game, didn't you.

Guess what, when you turn down the settings the game actually gets pretty good performance. I know, amazing, right!

ShogoXT · Nov 9, 2010, 09:30 PM

I agree though you cant compare 5970 because its 2 GPUs. So people saying its faster, is mostly irrelevant and debatable.

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Originally Posted by newtekie1

I guess you missed my point about being able to turn down setting in the game, didn't you.

Lies! But seriously though I guess when you upgrade your rig enough you start raising your standards on quality and performance. When I first started PC gaming. When my old computer got to playing diablo 2 (pentium 166 2mb integrated 2d graphics, 24MB ram), I thought 28k modem and freezing every minute was playable.

The scaling chart is invaluable for this reviews so thanks for putting those up. Maybe il reconsider if I get a 30inch.

Sorry for going off topic.

newtekie1 · Nov 9, 2010, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ShogoXT

But seriously though I guess when you upgrade your rig enough you start raising your standards on quality and performance.

And I would agree with you. However, when you lower the settings on Metro it still looks just as good as the other games that I play with their settings maxed out, sometimes even better still. That was my point from the beginning. Just because the option is there doesn't mean you have to use it. Everyone doesn't have to play every game maxed out. And every game that doesn't run on mid-range hardware maxed out isn't poorly coded. Anyway, enough about Metro, back on topic.

jmcslob · Nov 10, 2010, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by newtekie1

And I would agree with you. However, when you lower the settings on Metro it still looks just as good as the other games that I play with their settings maxed out, sometimes even better still. That was my point from the beginning. Just because the option is there doesn't mean you have to use it. Everyone doesn't have to play every game maxed out. And every game that doesn't run on mid-range hardware maxed out isn't poorly coded. Anyway, enough about Metro, back on topic.

Good point! I can still game on a 4830 at certain settings that I'm quite ok with....

But I sure would like a card like this...but not at $500...This is a card for Fits
I sure would like to play with one though

mlee49 · Nov 10, 2010, 12:24 AM

Wonder if Evga will release an SLI Profile update soon.

Nice review W1z, but some of these games/benches are too much. I'd like to see removed:

UT3
3DMark(all of them)
WoW(even thought I'm sure it actually does bring in search results)
and any other game/bench with over 200fps

It seems like a waste of time to run 5 resolution runs of 20 some games where you're just murdering the frame rate. Maybe clear up the review by some 10 pages of benches I just skip over anyways.

Not sure if you agree.

AlienIsGOD · Nov 10, 2010, 12:44 AM

I agree on the WoW, if you want to look at an MMO for DX sake; then LOTRO is a more accurate representation of DX10/11 graphics. WoW is too cartoony overall, a few bosses may look pretty but overall it still has that "I was made in 2004" look to it. LOTRO at least makes use of DX10/11 to a more noticable visual degree IMO.

W1zzard · Nov 10, 2010, 05:36 AM

wow is one of the few directx 11 titles out there, it gets an expansion and graphics update next month anyway. ut3 engine is used for lots and lots of current and upcoming games.

crazyeyesreaper · Nov 10, 2010, 06:34 AM

true UT3 is used alot but just about every game on UT3 engine will run fine on an 8800gt for the most part its like running say Aquamark theres no point really another example of bad games to bench with

Splinter Cell conviction, Cryostasis, World In Conflict, etc

good games to use are well already used in the TPU reviews

Bad Company 2
CoD 4 probably should be updated to a new CoD game to better reflect performance but overall not needed to replace
Far Cry 2 is still relevant
Stalker should be changed over to Call of Pripyt
most of the rest is fine for the most part but WoW is pretty much useless to bench at this point. but then again it brings traffic to the site i suppose.

3dmark is just garbage its great for who wants to measure epeen with scores but there not really worth looking at a gain of 30% in 3dmark ends up being 5% in general or so it seems.

Metro is the new crysis so its going to stay for a long time to come.

but overall i dont really give a dam w1zz does all the work so im just thankfull i get reviews of new hardware that dosent scream said company paid for good lip service. that and the numerous games and benches tested put most review sites to shame these days

DrunkenMafia · Nov 10, 2010, 07:40 AM

630W!!!! holy crappo, at least nvidia is keeping all the 1kw psu's

selling..

Wile E · Nov 10, 2010, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Panther

Can't agree with that really:

580 SLI = 2 GPU's
5970 CF = 4 GPU's

Number of GPUs don't matter. All that matters is how many slots it takes. Both occupy a 16x slot, and are a single card. As consumers, we don't buy a gpu at a time like we do cpus, we buy an entire package.

5970 is a single package, therefore a single card, therefore it is completely ok to compare 2 of them vs 2 580's

heky · Nov 10, 2010, 01:15 PM

+1 on that. 100% agree with Wile E.

HalfAHertz · Nov 10, 2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Wile E

Number of GPUs don't matter. All that matters is how many slots it takes. Both occupy a 16x slot, and are a single card. As consumers, we don't buy a gpu at a time like we do cpus, we buy an entire package.

5970 is a single package, therefore a single card, therefore it is completely ok to compare 2 of them vs 2 580's

I think the point here was more that there may always be underlying problems with scaling and new titles, micro-stuttering, etc.

Anyway, as always great job W1z! Keep up the good work!

Blacklash · Nov 10, 2010, 01:26 PM

Meh if 6870 Crossfire were in the article few would be bothering with 580 SLi. Costs less than a single 580 and doesn't trail 580 SLi enough to warrant the obscene price difference.

Easy Rhino · Nov 10, 2010, 01:27 PM

i don't remember the last time any new top of the line card, let alone an nvidia card, was also the best performance per dollar.

Andrew · Nov 10, 2010, 02:09 PM

Nice review
Please when the time comes do a review of 4-WAY 580 VS 5970 CrossFire Black Edition
Thanks

Bjorn_Of_Iceland · Nov 10, 2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by W1zzard

wow is one of the few directx 11 titles out there, it gets an expansion and graphics update next month anyway. ut3 engine is used for lots and lots of current and upcoming games.

A wise decision imo

Frick · Nov 10, 2010, 02:35 PM

I missed a comparision to 480 SLI, but otherwise it's all good.

entropy13 · Nov 10, 2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

i don't remember the last time any new top of the line card, let alone an nvidia card, was also the best performance per dollar.

It would seem any new top of the line card was never the best p/$, although I'm only basing it since 3870X2...

mdsx1950 · Nov 10, 2010, 02:56 PM

Impressive. Quad SLi GTX 580 reviews anyone?

Nov 11, 2010, 04:55 PM

Not pleased. Where are the CrossFire comparisons??????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????

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Nov 10, 2010, 01:15 PM	#41
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Nov 10, 2010, 01:26 PM	#43
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Nov 10, 2010, 02:09 PM	#45
Andrew Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nice review Nice review Please when the time comes do a review of 4-WAY 580 VS 5970 CrossFire Black Edition Thanks

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Nov 10, 2010, 02:35 PM	#47
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Case:	Arctic Cooling Silentium T11
Sound Card:	Creative Audigy 2 ZS with front panel
PSU:	FSP400-60APN
Software:	Windows 7 Pro

Processor:	Intel Core i7 3930K\|Intel Core i7 2600K
Motherboard:	Asus Rampage IV Extreme\|Asus Z68 Maximus IV Extreme-Z
Cooling:	Corsair H100\|Corsair H80
Memory:	G.Skill RipjawsZ 32GB (8x4GB) DDR3-1866 RAM\|G.Skill RipjawsX (4x4GB) DDR3-1600 RAM
Video Card:	3x MSI GTX 580 Lightning Xtreme Edition\|2x Palit GTX 580 + Inno3D GTX 580
Hard Disk:	OCZ Vertex 3 240GB, 4x 2TB\|Corsair Force GT 120GB, 2x 1TB, 500GB
Optical Drive:	LG 24x DVD-RW+/- with Lightscribe\|Lite-on 24x DVD-RW+/-
CRT/LCD Model:	3x 23" Chimei CMV-23LH LED\|LG 27" E2750V, LG 23" E2360V
Case:	Corsair Obsidian Series 800D\|Thermaltake Chaser MK-I
Sound Card:	onboard
PSU:	Thermaltake Toughpower 1350W 80PLUS SILVER\|Corsair AX1200 1200W 80PLUS GOLD
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit w/ Service Pack 1

Nov 10, 2010, 02:56 PM	#49
mdsx1950 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: In a gaming world :D Posts: 1,900 (1.48/day) Thanks: 263 Thanked 418 Times in 305 Posts System Specs	Impressive. Quad SLi GTX 580 reviews anyone? __________________ mdsx1950's Upcoming Games Thread(13th July)==[[Original\|Simplified]]== Laptop - Alienware M15X - i7 940XM\|8GB DDR3 1333MHz\|15.6" WideFHD 1080p WLED\|HD5850M 1GB\|640GB SATAII\|BluRay Burner\|9-cell Lithium-Ion Battery Thanks to PVTCaboose1337 for the sig

System Name:	Knight-X
Processor:	Intel Core i7-980X [4.2Ghz]
Motherboard:	ASUS P6T7 WS
Cooling:	CORSAIR Hydro H70 + 2x CM 2000RPM 120mm LED Fans
Memory:	Corsair DOMINATOR-GT 12GB (6 x 2GB) DDR3 2000MHz
Video Card:	AMD Radeon HD6970 2GB CrossFire [PhysX - EVGA GTX260(216SP) 896MB]
Hard Disk:	2x Corsair Perf. 512GB \| OCZ Colossus 1TB \| 2xOCZ Agilities 120GB SSDs
Optical Drive:	Pioneer BDR-2205 Blu-ray Burner
CRT/LCD Model:	Dell UltraSharp™ 3008WFP [2560x1600]
Case:	Cooler Master HAF-X + NZXT Temp LCD
Sound Card:	ASUS Xonar D2X \| ONKYO HTS9100THX 7.1
PSU:	Silverstone ST1500 1500W [80 PLUS Silver]
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate X64 (Build 7600)
Benchmarks:	Heaven 2.0 with Extreme Tessellation at 1080p - 96FPS

Nov 11, 2010, 04:55 PM	#50
TAViX Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	Not pleased. Where are the CrossFire comparisons??????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????

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