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Old Nov 17, 2010, 10:29 AM   #26
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My MoBo wont allow me to edit any multiplier settings to lower cpu speed. when i enable this function it automaticaly disables C&Q and wont let me boot. Even if i leave it disabled and only disable C&Q it freaks aswell. ill have to find a 500+ PSU to mess around with. this CPU has turned into a nightmare. i think ill just put my old trusty Athlon x2 back in and call it a day.
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Old Nov 17, 2010, 10:50 AM   #27
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thats kinda strange, but look at ur psu, it could b start from that, thats kinda lower for system so its like making the processor run on lower speed (i assume) try to check how much power the system needs u can use psu calculator, i forgot the link, just google it. If u can use higher its better so ur psu wont sweat much on heavy load =)
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thats kinda strange, but look at ur psu, it could b start from that, thats kinda lower for system so its like making the processor run on lower speed (i assume) try to check how much power the system needs u can use psu calculator, i forgot the link, just google it. If u can use higher its better so ur psu wont sweat much on heavy load =)
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But I think we all know (including the OP himself) that his PSU is not sufficient, Something around the 380 - 400w PSU would be enough - not taking overclocking into account though.
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Old Nov 17, 2010, 05:18 PM   #29
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I got 281. Recommends 331. So ill have to get a 500+ to be able to expand in the future

The PSU is an ALLIED AL-c300atx (max 300 watt) http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?inv...X-BULK&cat=PWR
IF your wondering y i have this thing in my computer....my old PSU blew up so i went to my local computer store for an in-expensive PSU and he gave me this one for free. (keep in mind it was only running a 95 watt Athlon 64 x2 till 2 days ago. PSU Calc- said 271)

And yes i have a 6 pin converter on a regular 4 pin power cable for the video card. this PSU didnt have a 6 pin.




So it would seem after every'1 input i need a New PSU and MoBo cause there is no way to unlock that 1st core to go past 4x200 (800 mhz)

i got it to 840mhz 4x210 (upped the NB FSB) saw a slight increase in Everest benchmarks. not much though.

I'd like to Thank every1 that kept at it with me.

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Old Nov 17, 2010, 05:42 PM   #30
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News----After doing some digging i found out that the MoBo supports 95 watt CPU "ONLY" so it may only be drawing 95 watt and choaking the CPU. the Phenom 2 x4 is a 125 watt CPU "sadface"
If ECS says that board will support only upto 95W CPU then don't put in a 125W CPU. I thought just like others to undervolt and use a 125W 9850 Black on my ECS 8200 black edition board which doesn't support more than 95W CPUs. The board behaved erratically, mosfets and chokes ran too hot and I finally swapped to a 95W CPU and its been running solid for more than 2 yrs as one of my Servers.

And oh I had the 770 board u have and that thing runs hot even with a 95W Phenom 9550. The PCI-E X 16 slot will over volt the GPU and make the GPU run hot, which translates to hot CASE, which triggers higher CPU temps, and oh the memory sticks were running burning hot. So I dumped that board and got the newer generation 8200 board and happy now.

So my advice, get a newer generation board (ECS brand is still good, just make sure you got the newer generation board where they have fixed the power circuit issues).

Also get a decent PSU (80+ certified is my recomendation).

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Old Nov 17, 2010, 05:50 PM   #31
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Actually, if the throttling is being caused by PWM circuits then a bad PSU could be the culprit. Just saying. Oh, and read my sig. You should have never bought a 5770 to run on that pile of crap PSU. You are just asking to destroy you entire system.
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Old Nov 17, 2010, 06:10 PM   #32
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If ECS says that board will support only upto 95W CPU then don't put in a 125W CPU. I thought just like others to undervolt and use a 125W 9850 Black on my ECS 8200 black edition board which doesn't support more than 95W CPUs. The board behaved erratically, mosfets and chokes ran too hot and I finally swapped to a 95W CPU and its been running solid for more than 2 yrs as one of my Servers.



Nothing runs hot when u have an Air conditoner pointed at your computer. LOL (look at my cooling specs)

But yes i see your point. New MoBO it is!...and PSU
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There`s a small chance of defective cpu...
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There`s a small chance of defective cpu...
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First replace the PSU & update your board to the latest BIOS or at least a version of the BIOS that is compatible with that processor if not done so already? then once those 2 thing's are done if no change I'd suspect the CPU for sure.
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Old Nov 17, 2010, 07:09 PM   #35
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is shows up as the correct processor in the Bios. so if it wasent gonna work i dont think it would have booted at all. id bet money its the MoBo. cause it does have the latest Bios. it just doesnt support a 125 watt CPU. its throttling it. i would bet money on it
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First replace the PSU & update your board to the latest BIOS or at least a version of the BIOS that is compatible with that processor if not done so already? then once those 2 thing's are done if no change I'd suspect the CPU for sure.


It ran correctly on an AM3 MoBO (all cores 3.2 16x200). the CPU is on loan from a friend. if it works i was gonna buy it. if not...well u get the idea
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be aware that once you enable this area, the vcore defaults to 1.55v which is way to high. so be sure to lower it.
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Yup i set is down to 1.25 if i enable it. it doesn't show the multiplier lower then 16x. 4x is not even an option.
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It ran correctly on an AM3 MoBO (all cores 3.2 16x200). the CPU is on loan from a friend. if it works i was gonna buy it. if not...well u get the idea
Ah well then. Have you tried fooling around with amd overdrive ?
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Yup i set is down to 1.25 if i enable it. it doesn't show the multiplier lower then 16x. 4x is not even an option.
W1zzard did a review on this board, it seems that there is no control over the multiplier at all, unless they added the option in a future BIOS update.
I'm voting you get a PSU before a new mobo and stick with your Athlon for now. You don't want to blow the Phenom before you've paid for it...
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