Big price difference between two cards that look the same.

columboid · Dec 4, 2010, 11:15 AM

Hi all,

Can anyone explain the difference between these 2 othere than the price and the part number?
(prices from Dabs in the UK)

Sapphire Technology ATI Radeon 5870 HD 1GB PCI-Express HDMI (VaporX)
Mfr#: 11161-05-40R £368.73

Sapphire Technology ATI Radeon 5870 HD 1GB PCI-Express HDMI Vapor-X
Mfr#: 11161-03-40R £289.99

I'm tempted to go cheap of course but I must be missing out on something good with £70 of price difference.

Thanks.
C

NdMk2o1o · Dec 4, 2010, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by columboid

Hi all,

Can anyone explain the difference between these 2 othere than the price and the part number?
(prices from Scan in the UK)

Sapphire Technology ATI Radeon 5870 HD 1GB PCI-Express HDMI (VaporX)
Mfr#: 11161-05-40R £368.73

Sapphire Technology ATI Radeon 5870 HD 1GB PCI-Express HDMI Vapor-X
Mfr#: 11161-03-40R £289.99

I'm tempted to go cheap of course but I must be missing out on something good with £70 of price difference.

Thanks.
C

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...source=froogle

5870 £179.99 don't pay more!

scaminatrix · Dec 4, 2010, 04:29 PM

*Might* be that the one that is more expensive comes with the better Hynix chips instead of the Samsung ones? Or one of them comes with a game?
Your answer might lie here:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...php?p=16308346

cadaveca · Dec 4, 2010, 04:42 PM

The pricce difference is in hte components used. AFAIK, the cheaper version does not support voltage control(although this should really not be an issue).

columboid · Dec 4, 2010, 09:06 PM

Thanks, for the info.
Still not sure of the difference but I did find this excel sheet of Sapphires products:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/archive/...ga-1_4_033.xls

No mention of the 05 though.
In fact did a 'site:www.sapphiretech.com 11161-05' Google search and it returned nothing, weird.

columboid · Dec 4, 2010, 10:06 PM

Looking arround the only differnce I see is this.
11161-03-50R is at Core: 875MHz, Memory: 1024MB 5000MHz GDDR5
11161-05-40R is at Core: 850MHz, Memory: 1024MB 4800MHz GDDR5

The more expensive one seems to have a slower clock and memory, is that an advantage?

heky · Dec 4, 2010, 10:20 PM

If you are planing to overclock, go with a model that you can be sure will allow voltage tweaking, if not go with the cheapest model you can find. NdMk2010 gave you the best option imo.

columboid · Dec 5, 2010, 07:55 AM

Thanks, I won't be overclocking, but fan noise is a very important factor in my selection.
The vapor reviews as very quiet, that's why I'm interested in it.

Mussels · Dec 5, 2010, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by columboid

Thanks, I won't be overclocking, but fan noise is a very important factor in my selection.
The vapor reviews as very quiet, that's why I'm interested in it.

you really want a reference design with 58x0 cards, the non reference ones tend to have a lot of problems.

Most problems with 58x0 cards can be fixed with a quick BIOS update (if you get a problematic card), but non reference ones are often quite hard to find BIOS updates for - let alone replacing the cooler.

If you want a silent one, do what i did. get a reference card, attach an accelero S1 rev 2 with an 80 or 120mm fan (i went 140mm for the hell of it) and enjoy a silent, cool running card.

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columboid Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 27 (0.03/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Big price difference between two cards that look the same. Hi all, Can anyone explain the difference between these 2 othere than the price and the part number? (prices from Dabs in the UK) Sapphire Technology ATI Radeon 5870 HD 1GB PCI-Express HDMI (VaporX) Mfr#: 11161-05-40R £368.73 Sapphire Technology ATI Radeon 5870 HD 1GB PCI-Express HDMI Vapor-X Mfr#: 11161-03-40R £289.99 I'm tempted to go cheap of course but I must be missing out on something good with £70 of price difference. Thanks. C Last edited by columboid; Dec 4, 2010 at 11:16 AM. Reason: wrong supplier stated

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columboid Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 27 (0.03/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks, for the info. Still not sure of the difference but I did find this excel sheet of Sapphires products: http://www.sapphiretech.com/archive/...ga-1_4_033.xls No mention of the 05 though. In fact did a 'site:www.sapphiretech.com 11161-05' Google search and it returned nothing, weird.

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columboid Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 27 (0.03/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Looking arround the only differnce I see is this. 11161-03-50R is at Core: 875MHz, Memory: 1024MB 5000MHz GDDR5 11161-05-40R is at Core: 850MHz, Memory: 1024MB 4800MHz GDDR5 The more expensive one seems to have a slower clock and memory, is that an advantage?

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