AMD Mobility Radeon HD 7000 Series Reality by Q4-2011

btarunr · Dec 31, 2010, 05:37 AM

Shortly after finishing off the top-order of its Radeon HD 6000 series desktop discrete graphics processors (GPUs), AMD is letting out information about its first line of GPUs built on the 28 nanometer fabrication process. The first products carrying the Mobility Radeon HD 7000 series brand identifiers are notebook GPUs in the MXM 3.0 form-factor. AMD is planning an entire lineup top-to-bottom to address almost all mobile computing market segments. At the very low end of course would be its Fusion accelerated processing units with GPUs embedded. On top of that is what follows.

The lineup begins with "Wimbledon", an ultra high-end mGPU. It has a 256-bit wide high-speed GDDR5 memory interface, 2-4 GB of dedicated memory, and 65W TDP. The DirectX 11 GPU will be about 25% faster than "Blackcomb", the Mobility HD 6000 series flagship. This is slated for Q2-2012. Next up is the high-end "Heathrow" mGPU, which has a 192-bit or 128-bit (selectable between variants) GDDR5 memory interface, 1-3 GB of dedicated memory, up to 45W TDP, and 30% higher performance compared to "Chelsea". This is slated for Q4-2011 (this should tell you that Radeon HD 7000 series will be in existence towards the end of 2011).

Going down, there's "Chelsea" itself, with its 128-bit GDDR5 memory interface, 1-2 GB memory, 20-30W TDP, performance 30% higher than "Whistler", production starting in Q4-2011. Lastly, there's "Thames". This mainstream mGPU will have 128-bit GDDR5 with option of GDDR3, 1 GB memory, 15-20W TDP, and 100% higher performance than "Seymour", Radeon HD 6000 series' mainstream mGPU. Production for this starts in Q4-2011, as well.

Source: DonanimHaber

thunderising · Dec 31, 2010, 05:40 AM

Gosh, they have info on mobility series before desktop series?

wolf · Dec 31, 2010, 05:40 AM

I havent even heard or seen anything about new Mobilty 6000 series chips, and were already hearing how select 7000 series GPU's will be X amount faster? faster than something that doesnt exist yet?

am I the only one confised, maybe I missed a news report about the Mobility 6000's...

entropy13 · Dec 31, 2010, 05:50 AM

If you know your football (not handegg, or "American" football), Wimbledon being better than Chelsea...LOL (although that's not really impossible considering Chel$ki's form atm).

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf

I havent even heard or seen anything about new Mobilty 6000 series chips, and were already hearing how select 7000 series GPU's will be X amount faster? faster than something that doesnt exist yet?

am I the only one confised, maybe I missed a news report about the Mobility 6000's...

6000 series (Blackcomb) is 1Q 2011. They've been reported (or "rumored" about) already as early as September.

Steevo · Dec 31, 2010, 05:53 AM

If any of you believe that AMD/ATi does not have samples of 7000 series by now your newb is showing.

It takes 2 years to plan, design, simulate, test, order samples, take delivery of samples, test more, refine, reorder, etc... for a GPU or CPU architecture change. Look how long we have been waiting on bulldozer.

wolf · Dec 31, 2010, 05:54 AM

holy cripes my noob is showing

largon · Dec 31, 2010, 06:25 AM

I don't think they have samples of 7000 series yet. Late 2Q11 to early 3Q11 would be my estimate.

MrAlex · Dec 31, 2010, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steevo

If any of you believe that AMD/ATi does not have samples of 7000 series by now your newb is showing.

It takes 2 years to plan, design, simulate, test, order samples, take delivery of samples, test more, refine, reorder, etc... for a GPU or CPU architecture change. Look how long we have been waiting on bulldozer.

Erm they don't. They'll begin sampling in about end of 1H 2011 / beginning of 2H 2011. And Bulldozer is a CPU, not a GPU. And it was delayed on purpose. It was meant to be released in 2009 on the 45nm fab process, but then got delayed to 2011 to be on 32nm fab process because AMD believe that that would be the best time for it to be released. The same with Fusion. AMD were too late to the 45nm party, and they made the better choice moving on to 32nm.

pantherx12 · Dec 31, 2010, 08:16 AM

I think they have samples considering their desktop 28nm parts come out next year at the end of q2/ start of q3.

(basically when ever they actually get bulldozer out the door)

jpierce55 · Dec 31, 2010, 09:27 AM

I don't believe that can start mfg within 3 months of designing the final product. That would be fast to work out mfg bugs, get the lines setup, all the components stocked. I fully imagine they have the samples several months ahead.

Hayder_Master · Dec 31, 2010, 10:53 AM

WTF another damn 256 bit wide memory

wahdangun · Dec 31, 2010, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hayder.master

WTF another damn 256 bit wide memory

its non issue, because its laptop so it need to be as efficient as it can be

Red_Machine · Dec 31, 2010, 11:50 AM

Wow, the Radeon 7000 series again. XD

bear jesus · Dec 31, 2010, 11:56 AM

I can't wait to see what AMD and Nvidia will be doing with the 28nm fabrication process

Quote:

Originally Posted by hayder.master

WTF another damn 256 bit wide memory

If it uses 6GHz effective GDDR5 would you really expect that to be a bottleneck on a mobile part?

I'm not sure how to do the math but I'm sure that's around/over 200gb/s but also Hynix has made GDDR5 chips that can run at 7GHz effective speed, how many hundreds of gb/s bandwidth is enough?

Dec 31, 2010, 12:35 PM

MXM 3.0 form factor?!?!? Is it me, or currently there are only very few laptops that use that interface?
And besided MXM SUCKS!! It can only provide a max of 75W to the interface....They should make revision C asap.

majestic12 · Dec 31, 2010, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_Machine

Wow, the Radeon 7000 series again. XD

I can't believe they're already cycling over -it seems like only a little while ago I was using a Radeon 7500.

KainXS · Dec 31, 2010, 02:31 PM

there are actually a couple that use the MXM3.0 form factor its just that most companies, like asus and their GTX460M cards etc are using proprietary versions of it with pins changed or upside down PCB's etc so you can't swap with a normal MXM 3 card

cdawall · Dec 31, 2010, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hayder.master

WTF another damn 256 bit wide memory

man its terrible 256 bit GDDR5 is so slow in comparison to what 512 bit GDDR3? oh w2ait no those are the same. current cards are not having bandwidth issues esp on the notebook side of things...

_JP_ · Dec 31, 2010, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAViX

MXM 3.0 form factor?!?!? Is it me, or currently there are only very few laptops that use that interface?

Acer and Cevo (you know them as Eurocoms) laptops mostly...

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAViX

And besided MXM SUCKS!! It can only provide a max of 75W to the interface....They should make revision C asap.

Yeah, it sucks. It sucks because companies are more interested in launching a new laptop every year with little improvement over the last one and with no room for upgrade. Why is that...oh right, PROFIT!
If companies saw the MXM form factor as a way of making profit out of laptops, don't you think it would be more evolved than it is now?
I got a pseudo-MXM card on my toshiba and I'm very upset about not being able to replace it with something better.

OneCool · Dec 31, 2010, 06:16 PM

It makes some since to me.

Test the waters with low power samples before they go with the higher clocked and power hungry desktop series.... why not

Rexter · Jan 1, 2011, 01:32 AM

Hey guys! I have exclusive new photos of the 7000 series!

entropy13 · Jan 1, 2011, 04:21 AM

No "HD" though. That's why they thought of that new prefix first starting with the 2xxx series, for this inevitability.

largon · Jan 1, 2011, 05:18 AM

I wonder what will they do after HD9000...

Zubasa · Jan 1, 2011, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by largon

I wonder what will they do after HD9000...

Something like HD X800?

bmwm3gtr · Jan 1, 2011, 06:07 AM

Why AMD doesn't increase their bus width on gpu???
they always stick to 256-bit~
at least use like they produce in 2900XT which has 512-bit bus witdh~
with the incriment of the bus witdh i think ATI can beat nvidia gpu's~

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OneCool Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Look behind you!! Posts: 796 (0.29/day) Thanks: 71 Thanked 58 Times in 39 Posts	It makes some since to me. Test the waters with low power samples before they go with the higher clocked and power hungry desktop series.... why not

Jan 1, 2011, 01:32 AM	#21
Rexter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 194 (0.11/day) Thanks: 14 Thanked 16 Times in 13 Posts System Specs	Hey guys! I have exclusive new photos of the 7000 series! __________________

Processor:	Core2Duo E8400 @ 3,6Ghz
Motherboard:	Asus P5Q Deluxe
Cooling:	Intel Stock + Antec TriCool fan over ram
Memory:	4x1gb Corsair Dominator DDR2-1066 @ 800Mhz 1:1 Ratio
Video Card:	Sapphire Radeon 4870 512mb
Hard Disk:	Western Digital Caviar GP 5000AACS 500gb
Optical Drive:	Sony/NEC Opticarc AD-7203S SATA
CRT/LCD Model:	LG Flatron L246WH
Case:	Thermaltake ArmorJr.
Sound Card:	Integrated SoundMax
PSU:	Antec Earthwatts 650w.
Software:	OS: Windows 7 Pro x64.
Benchmarks:	Windows Experience Index: 5.6

Jan 1, 2011, 04:21 AM	#22
entropy13 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 3,423 (2.22/day) Thanks: 42 Thanked 1,132 Times in 713 Posts System Specs	No "HD" though. That's why they thought of that new prefix first starting with the 2xxx series, for this inevitability. __________________ MSI P67A-GD65 (B3), Intel Core i5 2500K, Corsair H60, 2x MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr II/OC, G.Skill RipjawsX (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 RAM, OCZ Agility 3 120GB + 2TB, Corsair AX1200, Corsair Carbide 400R MSI Z68MA-ED55, i5 2500K, Noctua NH-U9B SE2, Inno3D GTX 570, Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB, OCZ Agility 3 120GB + 1TB, Seasonic X660, Lian Li PC-V600FB The Big Useful List of Free Useful Programs To Use Usually For Free Last edited by entropy13; Jan 1, 2011 at 04:30 AM.

Jan 1, 2011, 05:18 AM	#23
largon Join Date: May 2005 Location: Tre, Suomi Finland Posts: 2,696 (0.92/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 437 Times in 335 Posts System Specs	I wonder what will they do after HD9000... __________________ You were not supposed to see this. ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Suum cuique pulchrum est.

Processor:	AMD FX-8150
Motherboard:	MSI 990FXA-GD80
Cooling:	Noctua NH-D14
Memory:	Team Xtreeem Dark 1600 @1866 4GBx2
Video Card:	PowerColor HD7970 3GB V3
Hard Disk:	OCZ Vertex 3 120G + Max IOPS 120G + Seagate 7200.12 250GB 2 Raid 0 + Samsung HD103UJ 1TB 2 RAID 0
Optical Drive:	HP 1260i 24x Multi-Drive
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung SyncMaster S24B370
Case:	SilverStone Raven RV01
PSU:	Corsair TX850W
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

Jan 1, 2011, 06:07 AM	#25
bmwm3gtr Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Malaysia Posts: 2 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Why AMD doesn't increase their bus width on gpu??? they always stick to 256-bit~ at least use like they produce in 2900XT which has 512-bit bus witdh~ with the incriment of the bus witdh i think ATI can beat nvidia gpu's~