Mom wants a Wii

BarbaricSoul · Dec 18, 2010, 08:26 PM

So my mom wants a Wii for christmas. Her main reason for wanting it is for downloading and watching movies so she doesn't have to go to red box anymore. I'm also gonna try to get her to play some games on it(she likes games like bejeweled). So tell me, exactly what equipment do I need to get her?

Solaris17 · Dec 18, 2010, 08:47 PM

if no wireless

http://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CEoQ8wIwBA#

FordGT90Concept · Dec 18, 2010, 08:54 PM

Just the Wii (includes RCA cable, power, sensor bar, one remote, and one nunchuck. If you have an HD TV, you should really get a component video cable. If you want more remotes and nunchucks, you'll have to buy those. Of course games. And if you intend to do anything except NES games on virtual console, a classic controller for each player.

Soylent Joe · Dec 18, 2010, 11:53 PM

The system kit itself comes with everything you need. I think they even come with the Motion+ attachments now.

Is she going to be instant streaming through Netflix on there? I heard it was kind of slow through the Wii. Also, streaming from a computer to it isn't really possible.

ShiBDiB · Dec 19, 2010, 12:04 AM

ya i dont think the wii is the best choice for streaming movies.. It cant stream HD (i think) but it is cheaper and more old people friendly

freaksavior · Dec 19, 2010, 01:00 AM

If she wants it for movies, get a wd tv live +

ShiBDiB · Dec 19, 2010, 01:03 AM

or hell just get her time warner with movies on demand

FordGT90Concept · Dec 19, 2010, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ShiBDiB

ya i dont think the wii is the best choice for streaming movies.. It cant stream HD (i think) but it is cheaper and more old people friendly

I think the most the Wii can handle, for anything, is 480p (854x480). I wouldn't call that "HD" but HD is a marketing gimmic in the first place so, meh.

I completely agree that if strictly movies are the goal, Wii isn't the best option. It is a gaming platform above everything else.

JrRacinFan · Dec 19, 2010, 01:24 AM

Imo along with the wii you will need a netflix sub. Why don't you build her a lower end htpc? Wii can handle up to 720p just fine.

FordGT90Concept · Dec 19, 2010, 02:07 AM

Here's a source on the 480p limit:
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3154939

Personally, I've never seen my TV detect the Wii go higher than 720x480i on component video cable. That is basically the same as widescreen Digital TV (DTV).

Arciks · Dec 19, 2010, 08:40 AM

surprise her and buy red wii(if its available only in EU,than you cant buy it)
http://www.google.co.uk/products/cat...CAcQ8wIwADgA#p

BarbaricSoul · Dec 21, 2010, 10:40 AM

ok, so if a Wii isn't the best choice, what exactly would you suggest I get her? Please give me some links.

Also, what kind of bandwith is she gonna need for streaming movies. I believe she's on a 3000/768 DSL connection.

@JRRacinFan- Yes, she plans on getting the netflix subscription. As for the HTPC, that would be considerably more expensive than a Wii. I can get a used Wii for $100-125.

BTW, I'm making my purchase in the next day or two

Mussels · Dec 21, 2010, 10:53 AM

just get her a media playback box

something like this

im sure one model somewhere will support netflix, and the outputs you require.

They obviously wont support games, but as i'm sure someones already said: the wii has F all media playback features.

Red_Machine · Dec 21, 2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Here's a source on the 480p limit:
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3154939

Personally, I've never seen my TV detect the Wii go higher than 720x480i on component video cable. That is basically the same as widescreen Digital TV (DTV).

You need to set it to 480p mode in the Screeen options. It's listed as "Enhanced Definition TV" (enhanced my ass...).

BarbaricSoul · Dec 21, 2010, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mussels

just get her a media playback box

something like this

im sure one model somewhere will support netflix, and the outputs you require.

They obviously wont support games, but as i'm sure someones already said: the wii has F all media playback features.

what you think about this?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Western+...945474&st=Full HD 1080p Home Media Center&contract_desc=null

Mussels · Dec 21, 2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Red_Machine

You need to set it to 480p mode in the Screeen options. It's listed as "Enhanced Definition TV" (enhanced my ass...).

yeah the wii does 480i, 576i, and 480p.

im sad at no 576p.

composite does the two i's, component does the 480p.

edit: i dislike the WD ones because often they dont support MKV, or at least the models that do cost a ton more than other brands. that link doesnt work anyway.

BarbaricSoul · Dec 21, 2010, 11:00 AM

MKV?

I have to be leaving for work soon, so I may not be able to reply soon. But I will be checking back thoughout the day from my phone, so please give your suggestions.

Mussels · Dec 21, 2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BarbaricSoul

MKV?

I have to be leaving for work soon, so I may not be able to reply soon. But I will be checking back thoughout the day from my phone, so please give your suggestions.

MKV is the filetype all modern HD movie files are in.

think .avi, except over 9000 times better.

if it doesnt support MKV as a container and H264 as a codec dont touch it, because that means many modern movie files wont play on it.

FordGT90Concept · Dec 21, 2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Red_Machine

You need to set it to 480p mode in the Screeen options. It's listed as "Enhanced Definition TV" (enhanced my ass...).

I checked on my Wii (US, component video cable) and it is under: Settings -> Screen -> TV Resolution with the options:
EDTV or HDTV (480p)
Standard TV (480i)

It already had the 480p option selected. I never noticed that my TV gives reslutions without the "i" if they are persistent and with the "i" if they are interlaced. For example:
480p = "720x480 @60 Hz"
480i = "720x480i @60 Hz"

480p has always been selected on my setup, I just never was certain (don't remember selecting "EDTV or HDTV"). Maybe the Wii automatically selects "EDTV or HDTV" if a component video cable is used and it uses "Standard TV" when composite video cable is used.

In any event, as Mussels said, there are only three resolutions available:
480i
576i
480p

And two ratios:
4:3 (576i really is 5:4)
16:9 (480i/p really is 3:2)

That gives the following (Bandwidth in bytes/second):

Mode	FPS	4:3 Resolution	16:9 Resolution	4:3 Pixels	16:9 Pixels	4:3 Bandwidth	16:9 Bandwidth
480i	30	640x480	720x480	307200	345600	27648000	31104000
576i	25	720x576		414720		31104000
480p	60	640x480	720x480	307200	345600	55296000	62208000

Red_Machine · Dec 21, 2010, 11:32 AM

Yeah, the Wii sucks when it comes to resolutions. But not as much as the original Xbox. If you have a US version, with a component cable you can go all the way up to 1080i. If you have a European version, you're stuck at 567i. No progressive modes AT ALL. What the HELL were they thinking?

FordGT90Concept · Dec 21, 2010, 11:45 AM

They were thinking ATSC/NTSC is t3h awesome and PAL/SECAM is not. XD

BumbleBee · Dec 21, 2010, 11:55 AM

why not a media player? I have a Patriot Box Office. I chose it over Asus and Western Digital for a couple reasons. it can stream media, you can open the unit to mount a 2.5" HD or SSD, connect a portable hard drive via USB or connect it directly to your PC via USB. it supports a lot of file extensions and has firmware support.

HookeyStreet · Dec 21, 2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BarbaricSoul

So my mom wants a Wii for christmas. Her main reason for wanting it is for downloading and watching movies so she doesn't have to go to red box anymore. I'm also gonna try to get her to play some games on it(she likes games like bejeweled). So tell me, exactly what equipment do I need to get her?

If you want to get her a console for movies, you really shouldnt consider the Wii. The PS3 or XBOX 360 is the way to go. Both have far superior online movie rental services and media playback. TBH, the edge goes to the PS3. But if you mum was thinking about playing a few games. She may enjoy Kinect....controller free gaming is good for the old'uns lol

Bjorn_Of_Iceland · Dec 22, 2010, 11:55 AM

you sure you dont want to give your mom playstation move?

he he he

boise49ers · Dec 22, 2010, 12:08 PM

I just got a Blu-Ray at Best buy that has built in wireless and netflix. It was $90 and the streamed movies are Great quality. I was really impressed. I expected a lot worse then I got.
Just another option if movies is all she is interested in.

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BarbaricSoul Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southeastern Virginia Posts: 3,731 (1.95/day) Thanks: 367 Thanked 1,079 Times in 795 Posts System Specs	ok, so if a Wii isn't the best choice, what exactly would you suggest I get her? Please give me some links. Also, what kind of bandwith is she gonna need for streaming movies. I believe she's on a 3000/768 DSL connection. @JRRacinFan- Yes, she plans on getting the netflix subscription. As for the HTPC, that would be considerably more expensive than a Wii. I can get a used Wii for $100-125. BTW, I'm making my purchase in the next day or two __________________ “Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.” “Amd....definitely a blond female.....not much on the cpu side, but always strutting about showing off her gpus......wow that was bad. I apologize.” -ensabrenoir

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Dec 22, 2010, 11:55 AM	#24
Bjorn_Of_Iceland Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Húsið mitt Posts: 2,606 (1.33/day) Thanks: 479 Thanked 356 Times in 265 Posts System Specs	you sure you dont want to give your mom playstation move? he he he

System Name:	Main Rig: Specs Below \| Download Rig: HP DM1Z AMD E350
Processor:	2500k @ 4.8Ghz
Motherboard:	MSi Z77 GD55
Cooling:	Raystorm > MCP655 > XSPC 240 Rad etc
Memory:	Corsair Vengeance 1600 c8
Video Card:	GTX 680 +120mhz core / +500mhz
Hard Disk:	Corsair Force GT 120GB SSD / 2TB WD Black
Optical Drive:	Whats that?
CRT/LCD Model:	Asus VG236H 120hz 3dvision
Case:	Scythe Fenris Wolf
Sound Card:	SB X-Fi Titanium + ATH-M50 / Creative Gigaworks T40
PSU:	Seasonic X Series X850
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Dec 22, 2010, 12:08 PM	#25
boise49ers Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 890 (0.45/day) Thanks: 93 Thanked 314 Times in 269 Posts System Specs	Blu-ray I just got a Blu-Ray at Best buy that has built in wireless and netflix. It was $90 and the streamed movies are Great quality. I was really impressed. I expected a lot worse then I got. Just another option if movies is all she is interested in. __________________ TOSHIBA Satellite Notebook A-Series A8-3520M Quadcore APU (1.6GHz 2.0 oc standard 2.5GHz 3.0 oc Turbo) 8GB GSkill DDR3 1333/ 640GB HDD DVD SuperMulti/Window's 7 HP 15.6" AMD Radeon HD 6620g

System Name:	Gizzard's Gamer / Gamer 2
Processor:	Phenom II x 6 1090T@ 3.8 GHz / Intel E8200 @ 2.8
Motherboard:	Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H AM3 / Foxconn G31
Cooling:	Thermaltake Frio / Intel Stock
Memory:	G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 8GB 1600 / OZC Platinum DDR2 4GB 1066
Video Card:	MSI OC GTX 670 2GB DDR5 Keplar / Saphirre 7770HD 1GB DDR5
Hard Disk:	Western Digital 1 TB Caviar Black /1 TB
Optical Drive:	Liteon Blu-Ray + DVDRW / Liteon DVD Rom
CRT/LCD Model:	LG 27" 1080p Flatron HDTV:LCD / 55" Sony Grand Wega 720p
Case:	Coolermaster Elite 430 / Raidmax Tornado
Sound Card:	Realtek HD Audio: 5.1 Technics DD/ Rocketfish : 5.1 RCA DD
PSU:	Ultra LSP750 750-Watt / Rosewill 400 watt
Software:	Windows 7 HP 64-bit / Windows 7 HP 64-bit

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