Monitors: LED vs slightly higher resolution?

n-ster · Jan 7, 2011, 01:12 AM

I'm thinkng about changing my monitor. Currently I have an acer 23" 2048x1152. I love it, but am wondering if I am missing out on something better (ie: LED monitor?). The monitor change wouldn't really cost me money as I can probably sell my monitor at the same price as a 23" 1080p LED monitor

Many people talk about this TV have better Image Quality than that one etc, but shouldn't this be true for PC monitors also? (I'm talking about at the same price range). So I'm looking for the best 23" 1080p LED monitor around 180~240$, and wondering if it is any better than my current monitor?

micropage7 · Jan 7, 2011, 02:56 AM

personally if the resolution is just little bit higher i prefer take LED

n-ster · Jan 7, 2011, 02:59 AM

13.8% more pixels

Brilford Wimley · Jan 7, 2011, 03:01 AM

If your Acer works fine, keep it. Spending money on a monitor just for "LED" doesn't make sense. If you NEED a new one, go with LED.

n-ster · Jan 7, 2011, 03:07 AM

As a said, I won't be spending money really as I can basically switch monitors. I already have a potential buyer that would pay ~200 for my screen

Goodman · Jan 7, 2011, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by n-ster

I'm thinkng about changing my monitor. Currently I have an acer 23" 2048x1152. I love it, but am wondering if I am missing out on something better (ie: LED monitor?). The monitor change wouldn't really cost me money as I can probably sell my monitor at the same price as a 23" 1080p LED monitor

Many people talk about this TV have better Image Quality than that one etc, but shouldn't this be true for PC monitors also? (I'm talking about at the same price range). So I'm looking for the best 23" 1080p LED monitor around 180~240$, and wondering if it is any better than my current monitor?

LCD monitors are best at their native resolution & in your case it's 2048x1152... how many games support that resolution... none , i think?

That is why i didn't buy a monitor with that resolution & bought 1920x1080 much better imo...

Yes! LED are a bit better quality last longer & they also got better colors , that is what i will go for on my next monitor

Wile E · Jan 7, 2011, 03:31 AM

LED doesn't make much difference. Panel type makes the biggest difference.

Screw what type of backlight it has, go IPS, or keep what you have. Otherwise it isn't worth it.

Goodman · Jan 7, 2011, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Wile E

LED doesn't make much difference. Panel type makes the biggest difference.

Screw what type of backlight it has, go IPS, or keep what you have. Otherwise it isn't worth it.

Not only the Black light...

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ADVANTAGE: 1st Local dimming LED TV technology has an advantage in both contrast and black levels. 2nd Some recent LCD TVs. 3rd Edge Lit LED TVs

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COLOR ACCURACY

With white LED backlights the difference between the two technologies isn't very significant, but with RGB colored lights or a color wheel to affect the backlight color the LED TVs have an advantage in displaying realistic color.

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ADVANTAGE: White backlight LED TVs and LCD TVs with flourescent backlight are nearly equal in color accuracy. Colored backlight LED TVs trump both.

http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/hdtv/led-vs-lcd.html

HossHuge · Jan 7, 2011, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Goodman

LCD monitors are best at their native resolution & in your case it's 2048x1152... how many games support that resolution... none , i think?

That is why i didn't buy a monitor with that resolution & bought 1920x1080 much better imo...

I have a Samsung with the same resolution and every game I have played supports that resolution.

So I guess you think wrong....

n-ster · Jan 7, 2011, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Wile E

LED doesn't make much difference. Panel type makes the biggest difference.

Screw what type of backlight it has, go IPS, or keep what you have. Otherwise it isn't worth it.

Am I correct to assume there are no IPS monitors at under 250~300$?

and every game supports that resolution... quite well I might add

HossHuge · Jan 7, 2011, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by n-ster

Am I correct to assume there are no IPS monitors at under 250~300$?

and every game supports that resolution... quite well I might add

See here.... NEC Display Solutions Improves 23-inch MultiSync ...

n-ster · Jan 7, 2011, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by HossHuge

See here.... NEC Display Solutions Improves 23-inch MultiSync ...

not out yet though

and 299$ USD MSRP = sells for 350+$ in Canada

MxPhenom 216 · Jan 7, 2011, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Brilford Wimley

If your Acer works fine, keep it. Spending money on a monitor just for "LED" doesn't make sense. If you NEED a new one, go with LED.

why? LED is still TN panels. Why not just get a Dell IPS panel that offers way better colors and picture quality

Wile E · Jan 7, 2011, 04:04 AM

http://accessories.dell.com/sna/prod...entPopular,rk:

Do it NOW!!

n-ster · Jan 7, 2011, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Wile E

http://accessories.dell.com/sna/prod...entPopular,rk:

Do it NOW!!

WOW awesome deal,but the special ends in less than 24 hours and I don't have the money right now... Here we get 14% tax so it ends up 275$

Goodman · Jan 7, 2011, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by nvidiaintelftw

why? LED is still TN panels. Why not just get a Dell IPS panel that offers way better colors and picture quality

Higher price & slower response time not best for games...unless you pay big $$ for it

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They are well suited for graphics design and other applications which require accurate and consistent color reproduction. S-IPS panels offer the best viewing angles of any current LCD technology, with wide viewing angles up to 178 degress. The response time of S-IPS is adequate, ranging from 6ms to 16ms with current panels. This is only slightly slower than TN panels. However, gamers should take this into consideration

http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides...anel-types.php

BTW: 178 degree vs 170 not much of a difference anyway , considering you sit right in center/front of the monitor all the time

Wile E · Jan 7, 2011, 04:28 AM

Viewing angles are vastly superior on IPS, even right in front of your face. Just adjusting in your chair slightly up or down can change the viewed contrast of a tn-film monitor. 170 is a flat out lie. It's more like 30 verticle before the image changes. IPS does not have that problem.

And IPS is plenty fast for all but pro gamers.

The image of an IPS is so vastly superior, it's worth the extra loot.

Mussels · Jan 7, 2011, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Goodman

Higher price & slower response time not best for games...unless you pay big $$ for it

http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides...anel-types.php

BTW: 178 degree vs 170 not much of a difference anyway , considering you sit right in center/front of the monitor all the time

its a massive difference. you get no distortion of colors or changes in brightness moving a little to the side, or leaning back in your awesome office chair.

n-ster · Jan 7, 2011, 05:08 AM

IPS panels are nice, but atm, I don't think I can afford it.

Do you guys think the ML238H would be better than my current monitor? (Asus ML238H 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Full HD Swivel an...)

It would be a direct swap... He gives me the exact mount for it through paypal, I buy it from bestdirect.ca, and when I receive it, I give him my monitor.

P.S:I think my glasses are distorting what I see lol (not only the monitor). perhaps they are a little bent

Anything else in the sub 200$ price range at http://www.bestdirect.ca/category/?m...id=3&tab=Price is fine

Wile E · Jan 7, 2011, 05:18 AM

No. If you don't go IPS, keep your higher res monitor. Tn-Film 1080p is a downgrade for you.

n-ster · Jan 7, 2011, 05:21 AM

Seems logical.

Then is the ML238H a nice monitor overall? He still wants a monitor lol

Wile E · Jan 7, 2011, 05:24 AM

Can't help you. I'm an elitist monitor snob and ignore anything that has a Tn-Film panel. lol.

n-ster · Jan 7, 2011, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile E

Can't help you. I'm an elitist monitor snob and ignore anything that has a Tn-Film panel. lol.

expensive lifestyle there

I know, I do that with lotsa stuff...

CBRworm · Jan 7, 2011, 07:31 PM

Used IPS is an option. I also like PVA.

Good CCFL looks better (and brighter) than not great white LED. Good RGB LED is another story and another price.

I have not seen any white LED monitors for computers that offer localized dimming.

Steevo · Jan 7, 2011, 08:23 PM

Even in TN panels the cheap ones look like shit, and there is only so much you can do to adjust them.

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