Comp keeps shutting down! Should I RMA?

Azn Tr14dZ · Jul 1, 2006, 02:00 AM

My comp(see signature and sys. specs), only one week old, keeps shutting down, a blue screen with the text saying "if this is the first time this happened, restart ect...) shows up for less than a secon, the the comp boots up again. But if I am on Windows long enough, I can't shut it down, and have to manually do it! Should I RMA to newegg? And if I do, what's wrong with my comp? Motherboard? Memory? I don't think it's the hard drives, or video card, or power supply. What do you guys think it is?

Azn Tr14dZ · Jul 1, 2006, 02:10 AM

Please guys, I need to know!
BTW, if I don't reply right away, it's because it keeps shutting down right now.

SlipSlice · Jul 1, 2006, 02:14 AM

ur screwed.

Azn Tr14dZ · Jul 1, 2006, 02:19 AM

I'm serious, please help.
Slip Slice, if something is messed up, I can RMA, and not spend money. You, on the other hand, need to get a new video card, and that can cost $1xx to $2xx. How much will I spend on this fixing my comp? Barely any at all, only shipping and waiting. So STFU!

SlipSlice · Jul 1, 2006, 02:22 AM

lol, im just joking lol, and plus yes I can fix it buddy, found out how just need the walk through....I have to reset bios on the card. Will find out soon enough..

to bad, thought u knew it all.

Azn Tr14dZ · Jul 1, 2006, 02:24 AM

If I did flash my card, I would flash it with the right BIOS! And are you sure your graphics card is ok? That why you need a new everything on your signature? You need a new graphics for sure(Lol, 9550!)

Anyways, can anyone help me please? if not, I'm just gonna RMA my memory, my processor, and my motherboard, since those are the only thing affecting it. Maybe hard drive, probably not.

SlipSlice · Jul 1, 2006, 02:27 AM

im sry Azn, not everybody is rich like u. We don't all have red geeky hair, and bigazz glasses, and get w/e the fk we want. Some of us wait until prices go down, or work for it. And I see nothing wrong with my 9550 right at the moment, other than what i did to it.. But if I do get it fixed , I can play BF2 all all medium settings no lag. Aint no trouble to me.

Azn Tr14dZ · Jul 1, 2006, 02:34 AM

Rich like me? Is an X800XL the most expensive card? NO! I barely spent money on it! You think I have red hair and glasses? Don't think so. I'm not even gonna bother with you.

SlipSlice · Jul 1, 2006, 02:35 AM

Gr8!

NamesDontMatter · Jul 1, 2006, 04:10 AM

Ok piece of cake usually this results from a few things, no big deal.

Two Most likely Problems
Motherboard Issues (Sometimes you get a bad motherboard)
Power Issues

Your motherboard has amazing reviews according to newegg, which leads me to believe its a power issue, you simply can not OC a CPU on a bad PSU it just dosen't work. Check your voltages with some software, also tell us what your PSU is. I'm betting if you remove the OC on your CPU you will not get the bluescreen problem

What is your PSU? You only wrote 450 Watt, is it some generic POS PSU? Your system dosen't have a heavy load so you could easily get a good psu under say 60$ that will fix you up.

In my experience after working on tons of computers blue screen is usually caused by PSU or Motherboard. Tell us what your PSU is.

Azn Tr14dZ · Jul 1, 2006, 04:59 AM

Well, namesdontmatter, it doesn't shut down randomly anymore. I just did a clean install of XP Pro and RAID 0. It fixed all the problems but one, it won't shutdown at all. Everything loads fast, just like how RAID 0 should be. Good performance in games(tried CoD2 really quick), CoD2 loads faster too. But, when I press Start/Shut Down, it won't shut down. It'll say Saving Settings, then Logging Off, then Shutting Down, but it doesn't shut down. Is it possible a bad power supply can affect this? It's a POS power supply that came with my case. Since my Antec broke, I've been using this one. So, is it the power supply?

Azn Tr14dZ · Jul 1, 2006, 05:20 AM

The current temporary POS PSU I'm using right now has 18A on 12V Rail. Yeah, I know

. Should I keep it at stock settings until I get a new power supply? Can you reccomend me one under $60, oreven better, one of those $80-90 PSU with a mail-in-rebate?

Thanks,
Azn

Azn Tr14dZ · Jul 1, 2006, 06:00 AM

NamesDontMatter, I found 2 power supplies that would fit in my $60 price range and lower. Is it good? I don't know too much about PSU.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817192008
And
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817152022

Are these two good? Which one is better? Can you recommend a better one for under $60?

Jul 1, 2006, 06:15 AM

Now I have been pretty quiet till now but no more.

I TOLD YOU TO CHANGE THE CHIPSET FAN!!!!!!

Its junk. Nf4 chipsets run hot anyways so they need a good cooler. You may have fried it.

Also there are 3 VERY good PS's (best in their classes)
If money is a object and ur not SLI than the PS I used in RedChrome is EXCELLENT.
I had 4 hdds, OC CPU, OC X800GTO, 7 Fans, H2O and lights.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817163030
(Newegg is wrong it is a dual rail)

If you have money this is one of the BEST
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817185002

And if ur insane and using Quad SLI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817256006

Azn Tr14dZ · Jul 1, 2006, 06:17 AM

Should I get that a chipset fan for the nForce 4 chipset? How can I tell that it's still not fried?

Jul 1, 2006, 06:25 AM

It costs more but cause ur video card is on top of the cooler this is very good.
http://www.subzeropcs.com/force_chipset_cooler.html

Bad (cheap) Ps cause more probs than anything. Its important to sit down first and figure what you want to do with ur comp (OC, H2O, Lights, Multiple HDDs or SLI) than pick the right PS first. Its the backbone to your comp.

Its fun to go crazy OCing but if you dont have a good setup it will fry....

Azn Tr14dZ · Jul 1, 2006, 06:26 AM

Do you think my NB is fried. Will it be fine for a month or two before I get that Chipset Fan?
Would this fit on my JetWay:
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/produc...4/cl-c0034.asp

And what about the 2 PSU I listed earlier?

Azn Tr14dZ · Jul 1, 2006, 06:33 AM

Mark, you see that previous post?

Jul 1, 2006, 06:35 AM

http://www.bigbruin.com/reviews05/re...ingting&file=1

No its prob not fried(you hope) and the 2 PS are JUNK. And the thermatake wont fit at all.

Quote:
Keeping a motherboard's chipset cool is one of the keys to a solid overclock, so this cooler would definitely be an asset to an overclocker using an nForce4 based motherboard!

Azn Tr14dZ · Jul 1, 2006, 06:41 AM

I need a good PSU, over 500 Watts, and under $60-$70. Can you find one? I hate looking for PSUs.

Jul 1, 2006, 06:41 AM

y 500 watts? Is that a number you just made up?

Azn Tr14dZ · Jul 1, 2006, 06:47 AM

I'm planning on going SLI later on, when DX10 and Vista comes out. So, 500 and over would be nice.
BTw, they don't have and chipset coolers on newegg do they?

Azn Tr14dZ · Jul 1, 2006, 06:51 AM

So...

Jul 1, 2006, 06:56 AM

SLI what cards?

this is the cheapest SLI PS thats good.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817256001

Azn Tr14dZ · Jul 1, 2006, 07:08 AM

Come on...wow, I guess I'm gonna have to wait.

Jul 1, 2006, 02:00 AM	#1
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.67/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	Comp keeps shutting down! Should I RMA? My comp(see signature and sys. specs), only one week old, keeps shutting down, a blue screen with the text saying "if this is the first time this happened, restart ect...) shows up for less than a secon, the the comp boots up again. But if I am on Windows long enough, I can't shut it down, and have to manually do it! Should I RMA to newegg? And if I do, what's wrong with my comp? Motherboard? Memory? I don't think it's the hard drives, or video card, or power supply. What do you guys think it is?

Processor:	AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Motherboard:	DFI LanParty nf4 Ultra-D
Cooling:	Thermaltake Big Typhoon
Memory:	2x512MB GeIL
Video Card:	ATI Radeon X800XL
Hard Disk:	2x80GB Western Digital
Optical Drive:	DVD +/- RW
CRT/LCD Model:	HP vs17
Case:	SuperTalent
Sound Card:	Soundblaster
PSU:	Ultra X-Finity 500 Watt

Processor:	AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Motherboard:	DFI LanParty nf4 Ultra-D
Cooling:	Thermaltake Big Typhoon
Memory:	2x512MB GeIL
Video Card:	ATI Radeon X800XL
Hard Disk:	2x80GB Western Digital
Optical Drive:	DVD +/- RW
CRT/LCD Model:	HP vs17
Case:	SuperTalent
Sound Card:	Soundblaster
PSU:	Ultra X-Finity 500 Watt

Jul 1, 2006, 02:14 AM	#3
SlipSlice Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 738 (0.29/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	ur screwed. __________________ 3DMARK05:8024 @ STOCK EVERYTHING 3DMARK03:16800 @ STOCK EVERYTHING I LOVE MY BABY!

Processor:	AMD ATHLON 64 SAN DIEGO 3700@2.42GHZ
Motherboard:	ASUS A8N5X
Cooling:	1X80MM CASE FAN, 1X80MM CPU FAN, 2X120MM FANS(ONE TAKING AIR OUT..OTHER FOR HARDDRIVE
Memory:	1.5 GIG, DDR400 CORSAIR
Video Card:	eVGA 7900GS KO
Hard Disk:	160GIG WESTERN DIGITAL 7200RPM
Optical Drive:	NEC BURNER: CD/DVD DRIVE/BURNER
CRT/LCD Model:	Acer 22' Widescreen
Case:	ROSEWILL CASE 5600 SERIES..2 BLUE LED CASE FANS
Sound Card:	SOUND BLASTER LIVE 24 BIT!
PSU:	SPARKLE 400 WATT
Software:	WINDOWS XP HOME EDITION..its gr8/LOTS OF GAMES

Jul 1, 2006, 02:10 AM	#2
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.67/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	Please guys, I need to know! BTW, if I don't reply right away, it's because it keeps shutting down right now.

Jul 1, 2006, 02:19 AM	#4
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.67/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	I'm serious, please help. Slip Slice, if something is messed up, I can RMA, and not spend money. You, on the other hand, need to get a new video card, and that can cost $1xx to $2xx. How much will I spend on this fixing my comp? Barely any at all, only shipping and waiting. So STFU!

Jul 1, 2006, 02:22 AM	#5
SlipSlice Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 738 (0.29/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	lol, im just joking lol, and plus yes I can fix it buddy, found out how just need the walk through....I have to reset bios on the card. Will find out soon enough.. to bad, thought u knew it all. __________________ 3DMARK05:8024 @ STOCK EVERYTHING 3DMARK03:16800 @ STOCK EVERYTHING I LOVE MY BABY!

Jul 1, 2006, 02:24 AM	#6
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.67/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	If I did flash my card, I would flash it with the right BIOS! And are you sure your graphics card is ok? That why you need a new everything on your signature? You need a new graphics for sure(Lol, 9550!) Anyways, can anyone help me please? if not, I'm just gonna RMA my memory, my processor, and my motherboard, since those are the only thing affecting it. Maybe hard drive, probably not.

Jul 1, 2006, 02:27 AM	#7
SlipSlice Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 738 (0.29/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	im sry Azn, not everybody is rich like u. We don't all have red geeky hair, and bigazz glasses, and get w/e the fk we want. Some of us wait until prices go down, or work for it. And I see nothing wrong with my 9550 right at the moment, other than what i did to it.. But if I do get it fixed , I can play BF2 all all medium settings no lag. Aint no trouble to me. __________________ 3DMARK05:8024 @ STOCK EVERYTHING 3DMARK03:16800 @ STOCK EVERYTHING I LOVE MY BABY!

Jul 1, 2006, 02:34 AM	#8
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.67/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	Rich like me? Is an X800XL the most expensive card? NO! I barely spent money on it! You think I have red hair and glasses? Don't think so. I'm not even gonna bother with you.

Jul 1, 2006, 02:35 AM	#9
SlipSlice Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 738 (0.29/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	Gr8! __________________ 3DMARK05:8024 @ STOCK EVERYTHING 3DMARK03:16800 @ STOCK EVERYTHING I LOVE MY BABY!

Jul 1, 2006, 04:10 AM	#10
NamesDontMatter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Connecticut, United States Posts: 758 (0.27/day) Thanks: 12 Thanked 27 Times in 19 Posts System Specs	Ok piece of cake usually this results from a few things, no big deal. Two Most likely Problems Motherboard Issues (Sometimes you get a bad motherboard) Power Issues Your motherboard has amazing reviews according to newegg, which leads me to believe its a power issue, you simply can not OC a CPU on a bad PSU it just dosen't work. Check your voltages with some software, also tell us what your PSU is. I'm betting if you remove the OC on your CPU you will not get the bluescreen problem What is your PSU? You only wrote 450 Watt, is it some generic POS PSU? Your system dosen't have a heavy load so you could easily get a good psu under say 60$ that will fix you up. In my experience after working on tons of computers blue screen is usually caused by PSU or Motherboard. Tell us what your PSU is.

System Name:	Lenovo T61
Processor:	T9300 2.53Ghz
Motherboard:	?
Cooling:	Laptop cooling . . . .
Memory:	4GB DDR2 Mushkin
Video Card:	NVS 140m
Hard Disk:	1 320gb 7,200rpm (that fedex has lost in the mail), 1 100gb 7,200rpm and 1 500gb external.
Optical Drive:	1 DVD/RW
CRT/LCD Model:	Viewsonic 22" @ 1680x1050 & an onboard 14" @ 1280x800
Case:	Lenovo
Sound Card:	Onboard
PSU:	?
Software:	Vista Ultimate x64
Benchmarks:	3K 3dmark06

Jul 1, 2006, 04:59 AM	#11
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.67/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	Well, namesdontmatter, it doesn't shut down randomly anymore. I just did a clean install of XP Pro and RAID 0. It fixed all the problems but one, it won't shutdown at all. Everything loads fast, just like how RAID 0 should be. Good performance in games(tried CoD2 really quick), CoD2 loads faster too. But, when I press Start/Shut Down, it won't shut down. It'll say Saving Settings, then Logging Off, then Shutting Down, but it doesn't shut down. Is it possible a bad power supply can affect this? It's a POS power supply that came with my case. Since my Antec broke, I've been using this one. So, is it the power supply?

Jul 1, 2006, 05:20 AM	#12
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.67/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	The current temporary POS PSU I'm using right now has 18A on 12V Rail. Yeah, I know . Should I keep it at stock settings until I get a new power supply? Can you reccomend me one under $60, oreven better, one of those $80-90 PSU with a mail-in-rebate? Thanks, Azn

Jul 1, 2006, 06:00 AM	#13
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.67/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	NamesDontMatter, I found 2 power supplies that would fit in my $60 price range and lower. Is it good? I don't know too much about PSU. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817192008 And http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817152022 Are these two good? Which one is better? Can you recommend a better one for under $60?

Jul 1, 2006, 06:15 AM	#14
markkleb Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	Now I have been pretty quiet till now but no more. I TOLD YOU TO CHANGE THE CHIPSET FAN!!!!!! Its junk. Nf4 chipsets run hot anyways so they need a good cooler. You may have fried it. Also there are 3 VERY good PS's (best in their classes) If money is a object and ur not SLI than the PS I used in RedChrome is EXCELLENT. I had 4 hdds, OC CPU, OC X800GTO, 7 Fans, H2O and lights. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817163030 (Newegg is wrong it is a dual rail) If you have money this is one of the BEST http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817185002 And if ur insane and using Quad SLI http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817256006

Jul 1, 2006, 06:17 AM	#15
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.67/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	Should I get that a chipset fan for the nForce 4 chipset? How can I tell that it's still not fried?

Jul 1, 2006, 06:25 AM	#16
markkleb Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	It costs more but cause ur video card is on top of the cooler this is very good. http://www.subzeropcs.com/force_chipset_cooler.html Bad (cheap) Ps cause more probs than anything. Its important to sit down first and figure what you want to do with ur comp (OC, H2O, Lights, Multiple HDDs or SLI) than pick the right PS first. Its the backbone to your comp. Its fun to go crazy OCing but if you dont have a good setup it will fry....

Jul 1, 2006, 06:26 AM	#17
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.67/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	Do you think my NB is fried. Will it be fine for a month or two before I get that Chipset Fan? Would this fit on my JetWay: http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/produc...4/cl-c0034.asp And what about the 2 PSU I listed earlier?

Jul 1, 2006, 06:33 AM	#18
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.67/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	Mark, you see that previous post?

Jul 1, 2006, 06:35 AM	#19
markkleb Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	http://www.bigbruin.com/reviews05/re...ingting&file=1 No its prob not fried(you hope) and the 2 PS are JUNK. And the thermatake wont fit at all. Quote: Keeping a motherboard's chipset cool is one of the keys to a solid overclock, so this cooler would definitely be an asset to an overclocker using an nForce4 based motherboard!

Jul 1, 2006, 06:41 AM	#20
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.67/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	I need a good PSU, over 500 Watts, and under $60-$70. Can you find one? I hate looking for PSUs.

Jul 1, 2006, 06:47 AM	#22
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.67/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	I'm planning on going SLI later on, when DX10 and Vista comes out. So, 500 and over would be nice. BTw, they don't have and chipset coolers on newegg do they?

Jul 1, 2006, 06:51 AM	#23
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.67/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	So...

Jul 1, 2006, 06:56 AM	#24
markkleb Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	SLI what cards? this is the cheapest SLI PS thats good. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817256001

Jul 1, 2006, 07:08 AM	#25
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.67/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	Come on...wow, I guess I'm gonna have to wait.

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