Battlefield 3 Clubhouse

[Sir B. Fannybottom]

Oh my god! I love/hate you! You made me spill coke all over my keyboard!

[Mindweaver]

Originally Posted by Kevinheraiz

Oh my god! I love/hate you! You made me spill coke all over my keyboard!

lol I did the same think... I just blew the coke out of my keyboard with my air line..lol

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Kevinheraiz

Check out Milk's thread on it, It fixed it for me!

Milk's thread?

Anyway I'm glad it worked for ya. I have yet to hit a PB problem that lil guide couldn't fix.......assuming its only a PB issue.

Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

Too bad you did not hear that this game will have customizable hats and clothing. In fact, 1 month after the game is released they will say the game is free but you can buy stuff from the in game store. Here is an exclusive screenshot:

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/at...1&d=1312477353

Funny thing is I would sport that mask all over the damn place. When I customize my tag its going to have troll face on it.

[GullyFoyle]

It's Official, Battlefield 3 not coming to Steam

Is there anything new here, or is it just the same old story of Steam not on the Digital Distribution list? (I can't read the link from work)

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Expected Blog post on beta pushed to tomorrow.

twitter.com/zh1nt0: "Clarification on Beta, pre-orders and such will appear tomorrow "

[Sir B. Fannybottom]

:3 tEHEHE I rememberd the M, i, and the L :3 And yeah, it's working. I am slowly getting back into it

[1Kurgan1]

Lol I didn't even think you were talking about mailman, thought you were talking about some thread you found elsewhere, lol. TheMilkMan is now his new name.

[Sir B. Fannybottom]

EHEHEHEH Let's get this back on track, I don't want another infraction lol.

[Wrigleyvillain]

No worries there bro the Clubhouses here are fairly "open" and don't even raise post count.

In other news, let's welcome back TheMilkMan woooo!

[Wrigleyvillain]

Oh, don't need to go as far as W1z for such. Find a good one and send it to erocker. lolol

[GullyFoyle]

New Battlefield Blog Post: Detailed Battlefield 3 Pre-Order Items & FAQ on the Open Beta!

Spoiler

There are a number of pre-order offers for Battlefield 3 available. Some countries have already announced their offers, while others will follow. Check with your favorite retailer/digital download service to see what offers they have available.

By mid-August, you should be able to find all of these items where they are supposed to be available. Here is what they all are and how to get them. We have also attached a handy FAQ on the Open Beta for Battlefield 3 at the bottom of this post.

BREAKDOWN OF ALL PRE-ORDER ITEMS FOR BATTLEFIELD 3

Battlefield 3: Back to Karkand
What it is: An entire themed expansion pack the size of Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Vietnam.
Where to get: You will be eligible to download this expansion pack (once it is released) if you pre-order Battlefield 3: Limited Edition at Origin or at any retailer all over the world.
Available: The release date of Back to Karkand is not yet announced. This expansion pack is not on the disc and is not available on the launch date of the base game. Everyone (pre-orderers and those who buy it separately) will be able to start playing Battlefield 3: Back to Karkand at the same date.
Cost: At no extra charge with every pre-order of Battlefield 3: Limited Edition. You will be able to buy it separately for $14,99 if you don't pre-order (release date not yet announced).
More info: In this blog post.

Physical Warfare Pack
What it is: A set of three time-based exclusive items and one early weapon unlock for Battlefield 3.
Where to get: By pre-ordering Battlefield 3: Limited Edition on Origin or at select retailers all over the world.
Available: Day 1 if you pre-order. You will get access to this content at no extra charge at a later date if you don't pre-order (date to be announced)
Cost: At no extra charge with your pre-order at Origin and select retailers.
More info: In this blog post.

SPECACT Kit Upgrade
What it is: A set of 8 multiplayer skins, one for each class and side in Battlefield 3.
Where to get: At select retailers all over the world when you pre-order Battlefield 3: Limited Edition.
Available: Day 1.
Cost: At no extra charge with your pre-order at select retailers.

Dog Tag Pack
What it is: A set of 10 unique in-game dog tags to choose from. Dog tags in Battlefield 3 serve as your in-game signature, displayed on screen every time you defeat an enemy. You can also claim the dog tag of your enemies via skillful stealth knife takedowns. This pre-order exclusive pack gives you 10 unique dog tag designs to complement the standard range in the game.
Where to get: At select retailers all over the world when you pre-order Battlefield 3: Limited Edition.
Available: Day 1.
Cost: At no extra charge with your pre-order at select retailers.
More info: In this blog post.

Avatar Battlefield 3 Gear
What it is: Battlefield 3 gear for your console avatar.
Where to get: At select retailers all over the world when you pre-order Battlefield 3: Limited Edition.
Available: Day 1.
Cost: At no extra charge with your pre-order at select retailers.

Shotgun and Beret for Battlefield Play4Free
What it is: An 870S shotgun and a beret for in-game use in our play-for-free title Battlefield Play4Free.
Where to get: By pre-ordering Battlefield 3: Limited Edition on Origin.
Available: Day 1.
Cost: At no extra charge with your pre-order on Origin.
More info: In this blog post.

48 Hour Early Access to the Open Beta
What it is: A 2 day (48 hours) early access to the Battlefield 3 Open Beta starting in September 2011.
Where to get: By pre-ordering the digital download PC version of Battlefield 3: Limited Edition on Origin or by being a first-hand Medal of Honor: Limited Edition or Medal of Honor: Tier 1 Edition player.
Available: 48 hours before the Open Beta goes public for everyone.


FAQ on the Open Beta

How early is early access?
Early access to the Open Beta is 48 hours before the public is allowed to enter.

How will my early access to the Open Beta be delivered if I am eligible?
This will be communicated later. Stay tuned.

Who can participate in the Open Beta?
The Battlefield 3 Open Beta will be available to all, on all platforms, in September.

Can I get early access to the Open Beta by pre-ordering Battlefield 3 on Origin?
Yes, if you pre-order the digital download PC version of Battlefield 3: Limited Edition on Origin. This will also entitle you to the pre-order items Physical Warfare Pack plus the Shotgun and Beret for Battlefield Play4Free -- see above.

I bought Medal of Honor Limited Edition/Tier 1 Edition and was promised entry to the Battlefield 3 Beta -- is that a different Beta than the Open Beta just announced?
No, it is the same Open Beta, but as a first-hand buyer of Medal of Honor: Limited Edition/Tier 1 Edition, you will have 48 hours early access.

What if I bought Medal of Honor: Limited Edition/Tier 1 Edition as a digital download -- do I still get early access to the Open Beta?
Yes.

What are the exact dates for the Open Beta?
The exact dates for the Open Beta will be announced later.

What if I pre-ordered the digital download version of Battlefield 3: Limited Edition on Origin before they announced the early access to the Open Beta -- do I still get this early access?
Yes.

[PVTCaboose1337]

Here was my reaction when looking for preorders today.

[1Kurgan1]

I don't get it?

[DanishDevil]

Yum.



PS: Feel free to add me on Origin

[PVTCaboose1337]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

I don't get it?

SKS rifles were not meant to be designed to accommodate optics.

This is pretty obvious because they are top loading with stripper clips. In addition, the receiver cover is wiggly so it is very tough to mount optics there. Where optics can be mounted is the side of the receiver, however this must be done off to the side so that you can actually load the rifle. Finally, 7.62x39 is worthless past 300 meters.

[crazyeyesreaper]

its a game its going to have shit that dosent make sense, lol

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

SKS rifles were not meant to be designed to accommodate optics.

This is pretty obvious because they are top loading with stripper clips. In addition, the receiver cover is wiggly so it is very tough to mount optics there. Where optics can be mounted is the side of the receiver, however this must be done off to the side so that you can actually load the rifle. Finally, 7.62x39 is worthless past 300 meters.

You really, REALLY dont know what you are talking about. Its in the same ballpark of a .30-30 Winchester for knock down power at that range. 300+ yards is well within range for a kill shot.

Oh and FYI they also used a M59/66 SKS sniper variant in Bosnia.



Edit: Just looked up the 7.62x39 in one of my reloading books and its max "effective" range in a normal load is 550 yards which is about 500 meters I'm guessing.

[PVTCaboose1337]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

You really, REALLY dont know what you are talking about. Its in the same ballpark of a .30-30 Winchester for knock down power at that range. 300+ yards is well within range for a kill shot.

Oh and FYI they also used a M59/66 SKS sniper variant in Bosnia.

Good job, first hit on Google.

Too bad they were used in LIMITED CAPACITY. In addition, the M59/66 is Yugoslavian, which means it does not have a chromed barrel. This actually is because Yugoslavia has no ability to obtain chromium. Therefore, they made the rifle have a thicker barrel. In addition, the barrel is shorter in order to accommodate a grenade launcher attachment. The lack of a chromed barrel and the change of a heavy barrel make it more accurate than the standard SKS models, however one must take into account that the barrel is shorter, which causes reduced accuracy.

Also, please take into account that spent shell casing hit the scope when ejecting throwing off the zero of the optics, which could be fixed, but the SKS generally puts shells straight up in the air due to the extractor location. Problem is, depending on how you shoot, shells can go in either direction.

Let's also see that the stock had to be cut away so that the scope rail was actually able to be mounted on the receiver.

All these items should tell you this was thrown together by the respective users of the rifle, and these configurations never saw widespread use.

Regarding the stopping power of the 7.62x39, that is irrelevant, we are concerned with accuracy. However, we will compare 30-30 and x39 for giggles. We do have to take into account the weight of the round, so let's say we are using a 123 or 124gr x39 round, and a 130gr 30-30 round. We see that even though the 30-30 is heavier, it actually has a higher muzzle velocity than the x39. As we increase weight on that round, which we cannot do with the x39, we see the gap widens, and 30-30 is significantly more powerful than x39, roughly 20%.

To actually take into account accuracy we would have to compare a specific weapon chambered in 30-30. Now, do you see any semi automatic 30-30's? Not often. The semi automatic open bolt design of the SKS is not made for long range distances. In fact, the rear ironsight is so close to the front one, that accuracy is a problem.

That this game includes the SKS as a sniper weapon offends me. If the scope is mounted to the receiver cover, I will be very very mad.

[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

SKS rifles were not meant to be designed to accommodate optics.

This is pretty obvious because they are top loading with stripper clips. In addition, the receiver cover is wiggly so it is very tough to mount optics there. Where optics can be mounted is the side of the receiver, however this must be done off to the side so that you can actually load the rifle. Finally, 7.62x39 is worthless past 300 meters.

I haven't ever done any research on an SKS, as I don't think I have ever used one in a game. But I can find a bunch of pictures of them with scopes?

[PVTCaboose1337]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

I haven't ever done any research on an SKS, as I don't think I have ever used one in a game. But I can find a bunch of pictures of them with scopes?

http://www.dixietriggers.com/pictures/Longgun/SKS01.JPG

RAGEFACE. See how that is mounted to the receiver cover? It will not hold its zero.

[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

RAGEFACE. See how that is mounted to the receiver cover? It will not hold its zero.

Seems to be holding it's zero there, his spread isn't bad at all, not any worse than just firing any other gun that I have seen. Rageface more?

Also you say the Yugo non-chromed barrel provides better accuracy, but then you say to remember that the shortened barrel also reduces accuracy. Well I guess it matters how much of a gain and a loss that is, but gain then loss.... doesn't that bring it back to level?

Here's an SKS shooting 260 and 540 yards, and you can see him pegging the 540 target, and it's scoped.

Like I said I haven't ever looked into SKS's, I'm just posting what I find, but seems to be a ton of people out there using them with scopes at well over the distances you were saying and doing it well, with optics.

[PVTCaboose1337]

Read comments of the first video. People make the same point that the receiver cover is a poor mount area.

That second video is impressive. It takes skill to hit at 540 yards, but with x39, I am surprised.

Yes tons of people use scopes with them, but there was never a standardized system to mount them on, so that is my primary rage factor here.

[Sir B. Fannybottom]

All I know, is that I am going to try to get a 360 no scope with it while jumping out of a plane.

[3xploit]

did anyone get an email about "beta priority access"?

[ShiBDiB]

BF3 Alpha Players get exclusive pre-order options the next 3 days.

http://store.origin.com/store/ea/htm...BOO0eZB8cqABMG

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

Good job, first hit on Google.

Too bad they were used in LIMITED CAPACITY. In addition, the M59/66 is Yugoslavian, which means it does not have a chromed barrel. This actually is because Yugoslavia has no ability to obtain chromium. Therefore, they made the rifle have a thicker barrel. In addition, the barrel is shorter in order to accommodate a grenade launcher attachment. The lack of a chromed barrel and the change of a heavy barrel make it more accurate than the standard SKS models, however one must take into account that the barrel is shorter, which causes reduced accuracy.

Also, please take into account that spent shell casing hit the scope when ejecting throwing off the zero of the optics, which could be fixed, but the SKS generally puts shells straight up in the air due to the extractor location. Problem is, depending on how you shoot, shells can go in either direction.

Let's also see that the stock had to be cut away so that the scope rail was actually able to be mounted on the receiver.

All these items should tell you this was thrown together by the respective users of the rifle, and these configurations never saw widespread use.

Regarding the stopping power of the 7.62x39, that is irrelevant, we are concerned with accuracy. However, we will compare 30-30 and x39 for giggles. We do have to take into account the weight of the round, so let's say we are using a 123 or 124gr x39 round, and a 130gr 30-30 round. We see that even though the 30-30 is heavier, it actually has a higher muzzle velocity than the x39. As we increase weight on that round, which we cannot do with the x39, we see the gap widens, and 30-30 is significantly more powerful than x39, roughly 20%.

To actually take into account accuracy we would have to compare a specific weapon chambered in 30-30. Now, do you see any semi automatic 30-30's? Not often. The semi automatic open bolt design of the SKS is not made for long range distances. In fact, the rear ironsight is so close to the front one, that accuracy is a problem.

That this game includes the SKS as a sniper weapon offends me. If the scope is mounted to the receiver cover, I will be very very mad.

First of all you are assuming they are using a standard receiver. They make tons of aftermarket receiver covers for that thing. Some even support 1913 rail or that new NATO job. The M14 also mounts to the receiver so is it a crappy sniper rifle also?

The SKS has a top ejection port like a thousand other rifles. How it ejects is up to the extractor. Don't you think a modified sniper variant would also have this modified to have a horizontal ejection much like the M21 variant?

Example.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lKFQ...eature=related

As for the ballistics of a 7.62x39 vs 30.30 I suggest you pick up a ballistics book or a reloading book. You are WAY off base. First off a 30.30 can go up to 170gr. I used to load mine out at 150gr when hunting Florida white tail. Second according to my books there is only about 100lbf difference between a 7.62x39 and 30.30 at 450 yards with a 150gr load out on the 30.30. If I did 110gr the 7.62x39 come out on top. Anyway thats a MINOR difference when talking ballistics. Even still thats way beyond 300 meters you originally claimed.

Now to your accuracy claim. Thats depends on a million issues that you seem to assume on. Is it a stock barrel? Is the trigger pull stock? etc. You are assuming its just some SKS found in a ditch during the Tet offensive with a Leupold taped on top. What I find funny is you saying knock down power is "irrelevant" and its all about accuracy. Well I hate to break it to you but its a balance. The SKS would not be an ideal LONG RANGE sniper rifle no. But in an urban setting it wouldn't be bad at all. If it was all about shot placement and not stopping power everyone would be using a .220 swift.

Pack a better lunch next time you come at TheMailMan when talking guns.

Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

Read comments of the first video. People make the same point that the receiver cover is a poor mount area.

That second video is impressive. It takes skill to hit at 540 yards, but with x39, I am surprised.

Yes tons of people use scopes with them, but there was never a standardized system to mount them on, so that is my primary rage factor here.

Pfft. I can do 540 yards open sights on a .308. Not that big a deal. 700+ then Ill be impressed.