R6950 TwinFrozr II vs. PowerColor PCS++ HD6950 vs. Sapphire HD6950 Vapor-X

Mr.Blade · Feb 13, 2011, 03:21 PM

Hi there!

I really can't decide between the three of them.

Has anyone gained experience with one of these cards?

The R6950 TwinFrozr II seems to be the coolest and quietest in idle, but it's definitively louder under load. The PowerColor PCS++ has a "Dual-Bios" and can be easily unlocked to a HD6970, but the noise level is too high in idle. The new Sapphire just looks good, I haven't found any review in the internet.

I don't know what to buy.

Thanks for any helpful hints.

Regards

unixguru88 · Feb 14, 2011, 01:00 PM

Could you please give me a link to Sapphire 6950 vapor-X? I cannot find it anywhere.

MxPhenom 216 · Feb 14, 2011, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unixguru88

Could you please give me a link to Sapphire 6950 vapor-X? I cannot find it anywhere.

i think hes talking about this one

SAPPHIRE 100312-1GSR Radeon HD 6950 1GB 256-bit GD...

which is only 1GB card

thunderising · Feb 14, 2011, 02:13 PM

Currently, the WINNER card in terms of cooler, sound, power consumption, and PHENOMENAL OVERCLOCK AND PERFORMANCE is

MSI HD6870 HAWK Twin FroZr III

Review here by TWEAKTOWN - Core OC to 1057MHz o.0.(benchies included, it beats HD6950 and matches HD6970 in some games)

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/384...iew/index.html

Zubasa · Feb 14, 2011, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thunderising

Currently, the WINNER card in terms of cooler, sound, power consumption, and PHENOMENAL OVERCLOCK AND PERFORMANCE is

MSI HD6870 HAWK Twin FroZr III

Review here by TWEAKTOWN - Core OC to 1057MHz o.0.(benchies included, it beats HD6950 and matches HD6970 in some games)

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/384...iew/index.html

The 6950 can overclock too.

My vote goes to the PowerColor and adjust the fans speed in MSI Afterburner.

Edit: By the way in that review the 6950 still beats the 6870 @1057Mhz.

thunderising · Feb 14, 2011, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Edit: By the way in that review the 6950 still beats the 6870 @1057Mhz.

did u see all the charts properly?? like numbers?? like 87 > 84 thingy??

Mr.Blade · Feb 14, 2011, 04:33 PM

Thanks!

Quote:

i think hes talking about this one

Yep, that's right. I thought this card is available in a 2GB version as well. But that seems to be wrong.

Quote:

did u see all the charts properly?? like numbers?? like 87 > 84 thingy??

The HD6870 is for sure a very good card, but prospectively the 2GBs and some other better factors of the HD6950 will pay off.

Just by the way: I've used up to recently a Gigabyte GTX560 Ti. Because of many crashes while playing and a noisy, buzzing fan I've sent this card back to the shop. Now I'm looking for another options and the R6950 is a very good alternative, in my opinion.

Regards

Zubasa · Feb 14, 2011, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thunderising

did u see all the charts properly?? like numbers?? like 87 > 84 thingy??

Well the Performance summary says so.
May be you should look more than a couple of games.

BababooeyHTJ · Feb 14, 2011, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zubasa

Well the Performance summary says so.
May be you should look more than a couple of games.
http://img.techpowerup.org/110214/Capture009899.jpg

On top of that 6950 tends to clock better than 6870 on average.

JATownes · Feb 14, 2011, 10:25 PM

6950 has a different shader architecture as well. Don't get me wrong. I have a pair of TwinFrozrII 6870s that are beasts, but in this instance, the 6950 is the smarter buy.

As to OPs question, the TwinFrozr II is a beast of a cooler...and to the comment about "loud under load", my 6870s never really ramp up on auto, and at 50% fan speed they are cool and quite. The fans really don't get annoying til about 75-80%. Good Luck

Mr.Blade · Feb 15, 2011, 12:02 PM

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I have a pair of TwinFrozrII 6870s that are beasts, but in this instance, the 6950 is the smarter buy.

Really nice. But my mainboard doesn't support CrossFire and I don't want to pay too much. Two of the R6870s TWII would cost me around 400€ (540$) and I don't want to pay so much money for graphic cards.

Quote:

As to OPs question, the TwinFrozr II is a beast of a cooler...and to the comment about "loud under load", my 6870s never really ramp up on auto, and at 50% fan speed they are cool and quite. The fans really don't get annoying til about 75-80%. Good Luck

Thanks for this information.

But is there a difference between the TwinFrozrs (HD6870 | HD6950)?

Regards

boogah · Feb 15, 2011, 12:09 PM

PowerColor PCS++ 6950 Second bios unlocks to 6970 from the factory well except the ram speed but shader units and clock speed of 6970 without flashing. The fan noise won't be so bad.

JATownes · Feb 15, 2011, 12:11 PM

No...they are both the exact same cooler. Same as on the TwinFrozr II 460, etc. The card is different, but the cooler is the same.

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Mr.Blade Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	R6950 TwinFrozr II vs. PowerColor PCS++ HD6950 vs. Sapphire HD6950 Vapor-X Hi there! I really can't decide between the three of them. Has anyone gained experience with one of these cards? The R6950 TwinFrozr II seems to be the coolest and quietest in idle, but it's definitively louder under load. The PowerColor PCS++ has a "Dual-Bios" and can be easily unlocked to a HD6970, but the noise level is too high in idle. The new Sapphire just looks good, I haven't found any review in the internet. I don't know what to buy. Thanks for any helpful hints. Regards

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Feb 14, 2011, 01:00 PM	#2
unixguru88 Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 21 (0.02/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Could you please give me a link to Sapphire 6950 vapor-X? I cannot find it anywhere.

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JATownes Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: West Texas Posts: 1,666 (0.99/day) Thanks: 659 Thanked 407 Times in 332 Posts System Specs	6950 has a different shader architecture as well. Don't get me wrong. I have a pair of TwinFrozrII 6870s that are beasts, but in this instance, the 6950 is the smarter buy. As to OPs question, the TwinFrozr II is a beast of a cooler...and to the comment about "loud under load", my 6870s never really ramp up on auto, and at 50% fan speed they are cool and quite. The fans really don't get annoying til about 75-80%. Good Luck __________________ Please rate my M1dn1ght Rig "I will only buy this if it make's me a sandwich and plays with my balls" - alexsubri Sig compliments of Stefanels

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