My Asus x1900xtx got destroyed by Ati tool

[muaddib555]

Hello

I was using ATI tool 0.25 Beta 14 yesterday to OC my card.
I was using this guide: http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=gethowto&howtoID=61

After testing for some 10min my computer locked itself and I had to restart.
After Restart there where actifacs on the screen in the BIOS screen and Windows startup screen. And when I entered windows the artifacts disapperd, but the computer locked itself agian when I starded a 3d-application.
After several restarts the card got totaly unstable and I had to give in.

I looks as if the card is destroyed!

I have OC the card in CCC and have had no problemes there.
I use a zalman cu-900 cooler on the card. The GPU temp was on 92 degrees when the computer froze.

Any one got some thoughts on this?

[POGE]

You should watch your temperatures more carefully... post screenshots of what the card does now on your desktop.

[Tatty_One]

Damn you should have pulled the plug as it was gettin in the high 80's! Hindsight is a wonderful thing however, how much of an overclock did you give it?

[muaddib555]

I'am not using the card anymore, it stopped working completly.
Is 92 degrees to hot?
When I used CCC the temp. never got that high (max:75-80)
I am talking celsius here!

[POGE]

92 is to hot. I hope you learned a lesson. Research research research!

[muaddib555]

I have sent the card back to the shop I bought it, hopefully I will recive a new one from them.. If I don't..well. thats money down the drain! Crap

I didn't OC it to much... 680 GPU! I have been higher in CCC OC (690mhz)

[trog100]

90 odd c isnt unusual for a tweaked 1900 card.. they run hot..

ati wont say it is either..

trog

ps.. i dont see any reason u shouldnt get a replacement..

[Tatty_One]

Originally Posted by trog100

90 odd c isnt unusual for a tweaked 1900 card.. they run hot..

ati wont say it is either..

trog

ps.. i dont see any reason u shouldnt get a replacement..

Well in his case it is unusual cause he fried it!

[POGE]

90C is too hot.. not way to hot... but its obviously what broke it IMO...

[muaddib555]

90C is not to hot. The board can manage up to 120C have I read. I have used CCC Overclock and this never broke the board, even tough temp where into the 90; even on standard clock's. The fault is in Ati tool, when I tuned the Volt on the core to 1.425 that's when the card broke. And 1,425 is standard volt in 3d-mode. I blame ATI tool for this and urge people not to use this beta verision shit.

[Steevo]

^^^^ ^^^^^^


ATI tool didn't break it. YOU DID.

Your use of ATI Tool, and failing to use common sense, and failure to read all directions before use, etc... need I go on.



ATI Tool is like putting a turbo on a factory car, will it work? Yep, and well if you understand and follow directions or general guidelines.

Could it fuck it up? In a heartbeat. If you don't understand how it works then you aren't the person to be doing it.



#1 Rule of overclocking.
Unless you can afford to pay for your mistakes, don't.

[Batou1986]

*bump*

id say anything over mid 60's your gonna be decreasing the life of your card also think of how much stress you put on the other components of the card yea the core may be able to handle 120c temps but the voltage circuitry may not be able to handle the stress of running those voltages

[trog100]

atitool didnt break my 1900 card it just crashed every time i tried to use it.. i did follow the instruction very carefully as well.. magic piece of kit with my x850 card but i gave up with it and use the ati overdrive thing on my 1900 card..

it is a "use at own risk thing" thow and shit sometimes happens.. the guy with the busted card does have my sympathies ..

overclocking (especially overvolting) and the risks involved does seem to get taken for granted thow nowadays.. perhaps it shouldnt be..

they dont know he fried it either.. not unless he is daft enough to tell em..

trog

[Tatty_One]

He SERIOUSLY has my sympathies and I only hope his retailer will RMA it, its an exspensive card to fry. That said, when I was new to these forums and a total Noob to overclocking, I made sure I spent weeks reading threads, asking questions and reading more threads BEFORE I would so much as sniff at an overclock on my Graphics or CPU, that way not only did I have a good idea what the limitations and risks were and when to "pull the plug" but also I damn well learnt a lot too. There is a saying in the UK that a "tradesman should never blame his tools" as in take responsibility yourself for your own mistakes.

Thats said hinsight is a wonderful thing and hopefully you will get a replacement.....good luck!

[trog100]

let me slightly correct u O-Tatty One.. the correct saying is and i aint heard it for years cos we dont have many tradesmen any more.. he he

"A bad Tradesman Always Blames his Tools"..

only joking by the way and totally agree with everything u just said..

trog

[raymanxp]

i totally agree w/ tatty_one.
If u attempt to O/C ur card, u better be damn well aware of the risks involved.
If i fried it, that's my fault and no one else. ATiTool is what it is: a tool.

However, I feel bad for ppl who fry their cards, espcially ones the highend ones!

Btw i like steevo's analogy I think the mentality O/C'n a computer is a lot like a modding cars.

[infrared]

120c is the absolute maximum temperature... you should NEVER get close to that. The chip WILL die at that temperature or close to it.

If your card was getting up to 90c with STOCK CLOCKSPEEDS, then you have a serious problem, and shouln't even attempt to overclock it, nevermind OVERVOLTING IT!!!

I blame ATI tool for this and urge people not to use this beta verision shit.

If you think you can do better, go make your own overclocking tool. At the end of the day it's up to you how you use the software, it's a shame you killed the card, but you can't blame the tool you used.

[Clocked]

Originally Posted by muaddib555

90C is not to hot. The board can manage up to 120C have I read. I have used CCC Overclock and this never broke the board, even tough temp where into the 90; even on standard clock's. The fault is in Ati tool, when I tuned the Volt on the core to 1.425 that's when the card broke. And 1,425 is standard volt in 3d-mode. I blame ATI tool for this and urge people not to use this beta verision shit.

Dude.... If you had your card at 120C and didn't stop it you have NO common sence......... letting your card get up to 120.... that BULL SH!T.... there is NO WAY your card servives taht!

If your card was running at 90C, NO ONE that isn't under drugs whoul over VOLT their card....

ATI TOOL is a TOOL!!!!!! your the one controling the dam program... Tool head!

as InfraRed said.. GO MAKE YOUR OWN PROGRAM!!

[savor_of_filth]

way 2 go...You burn your 1900xtx...
90 degrees huh??you can bake ur a$$ with that temp..

[BigD6997]

yeah ocing doesnt work to well with ati tool right now... but its great for x8*0 series cards... yeah my stock cooler would let my x1800xt go to the low mod 80's so i got the zalman and i havnt broke 70*C but thats also cuz i have mad airflow... but why in the world would u let it go to 90*c... pull the plug when it goes anyware near 90...

are you sure you had the zalman installed right? like thermal paste wize?

[Tatty_One]

Originally Posted by trog100

let me slightly correct u O-Tatty One.. the correct saying is and i aint heard it for years cos we dont have many tradesmen any more.. he he

"A bad Tradesman Always Blames his Tools"..

only joking by the way and totally agree with everything u just said..

trog

Quite right but I was being diplomatic by not calling him bad!

[ToxiK]

Hi guys, I just wanna say a thing about GPU temp.
My 9800XT got fried after 1 week of gaming in 125C! THAT'S hot, it's crap that u fried your new at that temp, dude!

(Of course I didn't know my GPU temp on my 9800XT before it got fried, I'm no "mad-man")

[muaddib555]

I have read many places on the net that 90 C is normal at stock speeds.
I was never close to that temp when using CCC Overdrive with the zalman cu-900.
But as soon as I started to use Ati tool and manualy put the Volt to 1.425 the temp went to 92. 1.425 is stock volt in 3d-mode. There was mostlikly some malfuction with the card or the volt regulation in Ati Tool.

[KennyT772]

well u still set it. u still watched the temp rise and rise and did nothing about it. now you are going to turn it in and try to get a new one to burn. no wonder video cards are so expensive..

[muaddib555]

I did nothing wrong you moron! You don't get it do you????
92C is not high enough to fry the card.. Jeez.. and 1.425 i standard stock voltage.!!