AMD Readies 3.70 GHz Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Processor

[Dave63]

With this new chip we may see some push it to hit close to 5GHz with the right combo.

[xsever]

Originally Posted by Dave63

If the 3.5GHz was their limit for 125W TDP, what is it for the 95W that is my max TDP on my mobo and I am at 3.5GHz stable. So I can see this new chip over 4.0GHz eazy, I will be holding off for bulldozer to be out to start the new build this fall and turn this one into a 24/7 folder for fun

Since we have the same CPU at the same speed and the same memory, I am wondering at what voltage are you with 3.5GHz?

As for the 380, there might be a 385 or 390 coming to put the icing on the cake = 4.0!

[Dave63]

Originally Posted by xsever

Since we have the same CPU at the same speed and the same memory, I am wondering at what voltage are you with 3.5GHz?

As for the 380, there might be a 385 or 390 coming to put the icing on the cake = 4.0!

I am at 1.475 and my temps do not go over 45c.

[mstenholm]

Originally Posted by Dave63

I am at 1.475 and my temps do not go over 45c.

Whenever I see a AMD temp read out like this and many other it always makes me wonder if it is correct. I know that a 2% CPU load will not tell the truth (unless your really have a <15 C room), but 125 W contra 140 W can not differ 20 C as many realcore SS show. On the other hand if you/we think that the temperatures are in check we sleep well.

[cheesy999]

Originally Posted by mstenholm

Whenever I see a AMD temp read out like this and many other it always makes me wonder if it is correct. I know that a 2% CPU load will not tell the truth (unless your really have a <15 C room), but 125 W contra 140 W can not differ 20 C as many realcore SS show. On the other hand if you/we think that the temperatures are in check we sleep well.

i don't think many are correct, on these cpu's its easier just to look at cpu-z and see if its thermal throttling

edit: even if they carry on releasing these they won't go over 4ghz as they'll run out of numbers on the current numbering scheme

[HalfAHertz]

Originally Posted by mstenholm

Whenever I see a AMD temp read out like this and many other it always makes me wonder if it is correct. I know that a 2% CPU load will not tell the truth (unless your really have a <15 C room), but 125 W contra 140 W can not differ 20 C as many realcore SS show. On the other hand if you/we think that the temperatures are in check we sleep well.

And you are right to doubt it because it is in fact wrong. You have to add about ~12c more to it. Sometimes the temp sensor on the phenoms gets stuck like that

[cheesy999]

Originally Posted by HalfAHertz

And you are right to doubt it because it is in fact wrong. You have to add about ~12c more to it. Sometimes the temp sensor on the phenoms gets stuck like that

makes sense as mine thermal throttles at 56'c according to the temp sensor and with a max temp of 71'c on these chips ~12'c seams about right

[Dave65]

Originally Posted by inferKNOX

Interesting... nice to know that the person I'm selling my mobo & CPU to after the Bulldozers come to light will still have plenty upgrade options. At least AMD doesn't just dump previous gen owners.

Neither has Intel,socket 775 is still easily had,NewEgg has over 100 MBs available.

[IceCreamBarr]

Originally Posted by Dave65

Neither has Intel,socket 775 is still easily had,NewEgg has over 100 MBs available.

His comment is in reference to upgrading the CPU to a newer architecture. The 775 socket is strictly for the "core 2" family whereas the AM3 socket is good for multiple families as was the AM2 socket.

[Dave63]

Originally Posted by mstenholm

Whenever I see a AMD temp read out like this and many other it always makes me wonder if it is correct. I know that a 2% CPU load will not tell the truth (unless your really have a <15 C room), but 125 W contra 140 W can not differ 20 C as many realcore SS show. On the other hand if you/we think that the temperatures are in check we sleep well.

Yes I looked at the temp isuwith AMD and my room is at 17c-19c most of the time it's been cold up here and have AC for summer time. So when I look at the temps I add 10c to them. I hope this will be fixed with the new chips.

[xsever]

It's also another story when you unlock the 720 to a quad core: the cores' sensors go dead and on the "CPU" sensor remains functional.

Still mine idles at 22c and loads at 40c tops. Are you guys saying that these numbers in reality would be ~32c and ~50c respectively?

[VulkanBros]

Why worry.....my old 965 is running 3.9 GHz - stable for at least 7-8 hours a day.....

[Dave63]

Originally Posted by xsever

It's also another story when you unlock the 720 to a quad core: the cores' sensors go dead and on the "CPU" sensor remains functional.

Still mine idles at 22c and loads at 40c tops. Are you guys saying that these numbers in reality would be ~32c and ~50c respectively?

Yes I am a member of the x3 700 club at OCN and alot of members say the same thing with the unlocking and temps.

I am unable to unlock mine do to the mobo.

[cheesy999]

Originally Posted by xsever

Still mine idles at 22c and loads at 40c tops. Are you guys saying that these numbers in reality would be ~32c and ~50c respectively?

no, closer to ~32c and ~55c from personal experience

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by pantherx12

Those TDP ratings are what they are rated and guaranteed to work with is all.

My mobo is 140w max but I could run 200w through it, it just isn't designed for it.

It entirely depends on the mobo I have pushed just over 95w on a 95w board and smoked mosfets. I also have pushed well over 200w thru my asus ch2/ch3/ch4 and m4a78t-e.

As for everyone looking at temps. Amd spec says they are up to 10-14c off until the cpus hit 55c @ 55c they are correct. They are also safe temp wise all the way up to 95c as that's when the silicone begins to degrade. The 62c "safe temp" leaves a huge safety net for coolers and amd.

[alexsubri]

Snooki want's smoosh smoosh and benchmarks!

[Dave63]

Originally Posted by cdawall

It entirely depends on the mobo I have pushed just over 95w on a 95w board and smoked mosfets. I also have pushed well over 200w thru my asus ch2/ch3/ch4 and m4a78t-e.

As for everyone looking at temps. Amd spec says they are up to 10-14c off until the cpus hit 55c @ 55c they are correct. They are also safe temp wise all the way up to 95c as that's when the silicone begins to degrade. The 62c "safe temp" leaves a huge safety net for coolers and amd.

That is why if my temp readings are 45c max in core-temp w/prim95 then I am safe. Thanks did not know about the 95c, AMD spec's say max 73c I think back when I look them up.

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by Dave63

That is why if my temp readings are 45c max in core-temp w/prim95 then I am safe. Thanks did not know about the 95c, AMD spec's say max 73c I think back when I look them up.

For phenom ii it says 62c unless you look at mobile chips which for the most part are labeled higher. Odd since they the same process. Also these chips won't throttle untill 95c

[Dave63]

This is where I got the 73c from here is the link to AMD. It may be differant for the mobile chips.

http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskto...&f9=&f10=&f11=

[makwy2]

Last hurray of the PIIx4 before AM3+ lands?

[jmcslob]

My guess is these are disabled Thubans.....I hope someone can chack this for us...
It would be cool to hear a couple of unlock stories before PII is done

[Hunt3r]

AMD is very crazy

[m4gicfour]

Originally Posted by jmcslob

My guess is these are disabled Thubans.....I hope someone can chack this for us...
It would be cool to hear a couple of unlock stories before PII is done

Originally Posted by btarunr

AMD is looking to give its Phenom II series a finale, with a new quad-core Phenom II X4 model, the Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition. The new chip will be clocked at 3.70 GHz out of the box (18.5 x 200 MHz). It achieves this speed while staying within the 125W TDP envelope. Based on the 45 nm "Deneb" silicon, the X4 980 BE features four x86-64 cores with 512 KB dedicated L2 cache each, and a 6 MB shared cache. Compatible with AM3 and AM2+ sockets, the chip packs a dual-channel memory controller that supports DDR3-1333 MHz or DDR2-1066 MHz memory standards. AMD will unveil the new chip soon, as the company gears up to launch next-generation chips in June.

http://www.techpowerup.com/img/11-03-18/119a_thm.jpg

Source: DonanimHaber

Guess not

But this isn't straight from AMD as source, so who knows...

[HalfAHertz]

Originally Posted by cdawall

For phenom ii it says 62c unless you look at mobile chips which for the most part are labeled higher. Odd since they the same process. Also these chips won't throttle untill 95c

Not exactly. The laptop cpus are higher binned cores with less transistor leakage so that they can work at lower voltages. And they also don't have a heat spreader which helps with the temps too.

[Melvis]

Originally Posted by jmcslob

My guess is these are disabled Thubans.....I hope someone can chack this for us...
It would be cool to hear a couple of unlock stories before PII is done

Negative!!