Most powerful Win98 Hardware

MRCL · Mar 17, 2009, 09:05 PM

Ok this might be an unusual request. But anyways.

I was recently going trough my old cds, sorting out those that just collect dust and taking space away. And I found quite some amazing old skool games... for Win95/98. Now the thing is, I loved to play them and I still want to play them. BUT my oldest operating system running is Win2k, on the lappy. Some of the games won't run there. So I came across the idea of building a retro gaming rig, with Win98 on it.

Now, what would be the highest-end hardware suitable for win98? I need suggestions for a motherboard, GPU, RAM (please none of Rambus) and of course a CPU.

And no, virtual stuff is out of the question, I want a machine!

Suggestionsare greatly appreciated

Morrison5891 · Mar 17, 2009, 09:10 PM

Find yourself an old P3. At least 1Ghz or even an 800Mhz would work

alexp999 · Mar 17, 2009, 09:10 PM

Other than mobo and GPU chipset support, I dont think stuff would actually be that old. You could get a dual core running on it!

IIRC, all the 9xx series Intel mobo chipsets supported 98, cant remember when graphics cards stopped being supported. You are probably safe with any DX9 card though.

ShogoXT · Mar 17, 2009, 09:15 PM

Ok this is sorta side tracking your question, but ive actually been able to get alot of old games working just fine on xp and sometimes vista. Some older DOS games are tricky, but my sound card gives me good emulation still.

Tell me what games you are trying to run, maybe I can help. (im at work atm though, might be a while before i respond).

ShogoXT · Mar 17, 2009, 09:17 PM

Another note. For older DOS games you dont want TOO fast of a computer, otherwise the game is unplayably fast.

alexp999 · Mar 17, 2009, 09:19 PM

I have got every Tomb Raider (still working on the first one), running on Vista

As ShogoXT says, you'll be suprised what you can get working. Though my Dad still won't give up his old Win 98 Machine.

MRCL · Mar 17, 2009, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShogoXT

Ok this is sorta side tracking your question, but ive actually been able to get alot of old games working just fine on xp and sometimes vista. Some older DOS games are tricky, but my sound card gives me good emulation still.

Tell me what games you are trying to run, maybe I can help. (im at work atm though, might be a while before i respond).

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShogoXT

Another note. For older DOS games you dont want TOO fast of a computer, otherwise the game is unplayably fast.

The games I want to play the most are Redline Racer and S.C.A.R.S. maybe some Motocross Madness.

Naw for the DOS games I like(d) to play (eg Monkey Island Series), theres ScummVM, for those I don't mind they run emulated.

kiriakost · Mar 17, 2009, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShogoXT

Another note. For older DOS games you dont want TOO fast of a computer, otherwise the game is unplayably fast.

make a Google search about "MAME games" .

ShogoXT · Mar 17, 2009, 09:23 PM

Dude seriously... try playing Magic Carpet 2 unemulated.
"lol i got this game working, used to be so fun even though i couldnt get the sound working".

*BAM all the way across the map and dead*

"but... i only tapped the up key...."

alexp999 · Mar 17, 2009, 09:27 PM

My dad got A-train working on a PC emulator, funny thing was, everything was zooming around at lightning speed, cus the PC was too fast!

MRCL · Mar 17, 2009, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexp999

My dad got A-train working on a PC emulator, funny thing was, everything was zooming around at lightning speed, cus the PC was too fast!

I remember GTA2 has such an issue under compability mode, if you don't adjust it, it runs at like 30000fps

paulm · Mar 17, 2009, 09:30 PM

You should probably see if you can get uk2online to sell you his rig, he is running the exact hardware you're looking for, and I hear he just got a new PCI graphics card

Sorry, I had to bring it up

.

AlienIsGOD · Mar 17, 2009, 09:35 PM

^^ Lol

DrPepper · Mar 17, 2009, 09:39 PM

Try running it in microsoft virtual pc and see if you can play any games on it. I'd think it would install rather quick as well.

pro-infinity · Mar 17, 2009, 09:40 PM

i have a nice intel 815 motherboard with 1ghz cpu u and a rage 128 pro 8 or 16 mb graphics card if you wana swap me it for something better haha

mrw1986 · Mar 17, 2009, 09:41 PM

I loved Redline Racer!

MRCL · Mar 17, 2009, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPepper

Try running it in microsoft virtual pc and see if you can play any games on it. I'd think it would install rather quick as well.

Virtual PC is out of the question

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrw1986

I loved Redline Racer!

Omg omg omg somebody who knows Redline Racer

DrPepper · Mar 17, 2009, 09:43 PM

Why's that ?

pro-infinity · Mar 17, 2009, 09:47 PM

+ 512sd ram might i add

DanTheBanjoman · Mar 17, 2009, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexp999

Other than mobo and GPU chipset support, I dont think stuff would actually be that old. You could get a dual core running on it!

Apart from the fact that Win98 won't do anything with the second core. Large amounts of memory are trouble as well (>512MB), besides that it has crap USB support and is an overal pos.

My vote is VMware, like it or not. If you want an actual machine just get any P2/P3 you can find. It really won't matter that much. Games that run on nothing but win9x are far older than a P3.

MRCL · Mar 17, 2009, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPepper

Why's that ?

I don't know... its just not the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanTheBanjoman

Apart from the fact that Win98 won't do anything with the second core. Large amounts of memory are trouble as well (>512MB), besides that it has crap USB support and is an overal pos.

My vote is VMware, like it or not. If you want an actual machine just get any P2/P3 you can find. It really won't matter that much. Games that run on nothing but win9x are far older than a P3.

So P3 it is then, alright... I see what I can find, thanks y'all

ste2425 · Mar 17, 2009, 10:24 PM

dumb question but my VMware to youe mean emulators?

MRCL · Mar 17, 2009, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ste2425

dumb question but my VMware to youe mean emulators?

Well I generalize. I just dont want to use emulators/virtual computers/other programs. I want the real thing.

ste2425 · Mar 17, 2009, 10:45 PM

right ok cheers id just never heard the term VMware

TroyForum · May 1, 2009, 02:28 AM

I recommend using an old Dell computer for an old Windows 98SE gaming computer. I've done this myself on two computers. My old Win98 computer died on me and I had to find a replacement last year. You can go to the Dell website and look for models that still have Windows 98 drivers that you can download from the Dell website. I think this is easier than trying to build a computer from scratch. Sometimes you can find old office computers on the net or at local computer stores. First I put together an old Dell Optiplex GX50, but the PSU and configuration didn't allow me to get the video card I wanted. Right now, I keep it as a backup for Win98 games that can run on integrated graphics.

I found the the most powerful Dell computer that still had Win98 drivers on their website is a Optiplex GX260. If you by the MiniTower configuration, this give you more options in installing a video card.

Then you can search for the most powerful video card that also has Win98SE drivers available. I found that Omega Drivers can work w/ older Radeon cards. I found the most powerful Radeon card that could run on the PSU for the MiniTower GX260 was this:

128MB ATI Radeon 9600XT AGP 8x VGA DVI Tv DDR 9600 XT 100437100 100-437100

So I put these two together w/ the Omega Drivers and it works fine. I can run my Win98SE games just fine w/ the Radeon 9600XT. I've got it loaded w/ a couple of dozen different games that all play w/ good framerated under the 9600XT.

I alot put alot of free software on it that runs in Win98SE, but I only use it for gaming.

I understand that alot of people just use emulation software, but not me. I'm sorry, but some of my favorite computer games only run in Win98. They all can't run properly in WinXP and some of the can't even get started in Vista.
I also find it very easy to do a clean install of Win98SE if it's needed. I don't have to verify anything w/ Bill Gates to put together my Win98 gaming computers.

TroyForum

Mar 17, 2009, 09:05 PM	#1
MRCL Join Date: May 2008 Location: Switzerland, Heart of Europe Posts: 3,798 (2.06/day) Thanks: 340 Thanked 862 Times in 705 Posts System Specs	Most powerful Win98 Hardware Ok this might be an unusual request. But anyways. I was recently going trough my old cds, sorting out those that just collect dust and taking space away. And I found quite some amazing old skool games... for Win95/98. Now the thing is, I loved to play them and I still want to play them. BUT my oldest operating system running is Win2k, on the lappy. Some of the games won't run there. So I came across the idea of building a retro gaming rig, with Win98 on it. Now, what would be the highest-end hardware suitable for win98? I need suggestions for a motherboard, GPU, RAM (please none of Rambus) and of course a CPU. And no, virtual stuff is out of the question, I want a machine! Suggestionsare greatly appreciated __________________ [I.R.A.] FBi I wouldnt buy toilet paper from MSI as it may be missing the preforations

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Mar 17, 2009, 09:10 PM	#3
alexp999 Staff Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dorset, UK Posts: 6,728 (3.13/day) Thanks: 684 Thanked 915 Times in 783 Posts System Specs	Other than mobo and GPU chipset support, I dont think stuff would actually be that old. You could get a dual core running on it! IIRC, all the 9xx series Intel mobo chipsets supported 98, cant remember when graphics cards stopped being supported. You are probably safe with any DX9 card though. __________________ ASUS P45 Club [FS] [WTB] Heatware ebay Elite Lounge USB Boot Guide 3DMark Vantage My Rig XBOX Gamertag Steam ID Dad's: EVGA 750i FTW, E6600, F7Pro, 4GB, 8800GTS 640MB SLi, SST 750W, Commodore EVE Gallente Case

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Mar 17, 2009, 09:10 PM	#2
Morrison5891 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bannock County Posts: 751 (0.48/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 96 Times in 87 Posts System Specs	Find yourself an old P3. At least 1Ghz or even an 800Mhz would work

Mar 17, 2009, 09:15 PM	#4
ShogoXT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 935 (0.48/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 92 Times in 72 Posts System Specs	Ok this is sorta side tracking your question, but ive actually been able to get alot of old games working just fine on xp and sometimes vista. Some older DOS games are tricky, but my sound card gives me good emulation still. Tell me what games you are trying to run, maybe I can help. (im at work atm though, might be a while before i respond).

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Mar 17, 2009, 09:17 PM	#5
ShogoXT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 935 (0.48/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 92 Times in 72 Posts System Specs	Another note. For older DOS games you dont want TOO fast of a computer, otherwise the game is unplayably fast.

Mar 17, 2009, 09:19 PM	#6
alexp999 Staff Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dorset, UK Posts: 6,728 (3.13/day) Thanks: 684 Thanked 915 Times in 783 Posts System Specs	I have got every Tomb Raider (still working on the first one), running on Vista As ShogoXT says, you'll be suprised what you can get working. Though my Dad still won't give up his old Win 98 Machine. __________________ ASUS P45 Club [FS] [WTB] Heatware ebay Elite Lounge USB Boot Guide 3DMark Vantage My Rig XBOX Gamertag Steam ID Dad's: EVGA 750i FTW, E6600, F7Pro, 4GB, 8800GTS 640MB SLi, SST 750W, Commodore EVE Gallente Case

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Mar 17, 2009, 09:23 PM	#9
ShogoXT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 935 (0.48/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 92 Times in 72 Posts System Specs	Dude seriously... try playing Magic Carpet 2 unemulated. "lol i got this game working, used to be so fun even though i couldnt get the sound working". BAM all the way across the map and dead "but... i only tapped the up key...."

Mar 17, 2009, 09:27 PM	#10
alexp999 Staff Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dorset, UK Posts: 6,728 (3.13/day) Thanks: 684 Thanked 915 Times in 783 Posts System Specs	My dad got A-train working on a PC emulator, funny thing was, everything was zooming around at lightning speed, cus the PC was too fast! __________________ ASUS P45 Club [FS] [WTB] Heatware ebay Elite Lounge USB Boot Guide 3DMark Vantage My Rig XBOX Gamertag Steam ID Dad's: EVGA 750i FTW, E6600, F7Pro, 4GB, 8800GTS 640MB SLi, SST 750W, Commodore EVE Gallente Case

Mar 17, 2009, 09:30 PM	#12
paulm Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: United States Posts: 412 (0.25/day) Thanks: 11 Thanked 49 Times in 36 Posts System Specs	You should probably see if you can get uk2online to sell you his rig, he is running the exact hardware you're looking for, and I hear he just got a new PCI graphics card Sorry, I had to bring it up .

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Mar 17, 2009, 09:35 PM	#13
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Mar 17, 2009, 09:39 PM	#14
DrPepper The Doctor is in the house Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Scotland (It rains alot) Posts: 6,423 (3.24/day) Thanks: 977 Thanked 828 Times in 667 Posts System Specs	Try running it in microsoft virtual pc and see if you can play any games on it. I'd think it would install rather quick as well.

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Mar 17, 2009, 09:40 PM	#15
pro-infinity Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hull,Uk Posts: 100 (0.06/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts	i have a nice intel 815 motherboard with 1ghz cpu u and a rage 128 pro 8 or 16 mb graphics card if you wana swap me it for something better haha

Mar 17, 2009, 09:41 PM	#16
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Mar 17, 2009, 09:43 PM	#18
DrPepper The Doctor is in the house Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Scotland (It rains alot) Posts: 6,423 (3.24/day) Thanks: 977 Thanked 828 Times in 667 Posts System Specs	Why's that ?

Mar 17, 2009, 09:47 PM	#19
pro-infinity Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hull,Uk Posts: 100 (0.06/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts	+ 512sd ram might i add

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Mar 17, 2009, 10:24 PM	#22
ste2425 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Blackpool, uk Posts: 2,792 (1.51/day) Thanks: 783 Thanked 286 Times in 240 Posts System Specs	dumb question but my VMware to youe mean emulators? __________________ Womack & Womack : Duran Duran : The Specials : Madness : Lionel Richie : Indeep : Michael Jackson : Taylor Dayne : Frank Sinatra : The Gap Band : Wild Cherry : Fleetwood Mack : Blondie : Bee Gees : Wham : Snap : MC Hammer : Bill Withers : Louis Armstrong : Percy Mayfield : Ray Charles : Ben E. King : Bob Marley : The Temptations : The Marvelettes : Elvis Presley : Chic : Sister Sledge : The Clash : The Ramones : The Sex Pistols Where's all the talent gone?

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Mar 17, 2009, 10:45 PM	#24
ste2425 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Blackpool, uk Posts: 2,792 (1.51/day) Thanks: 783 Thanked 286 Times in 240 Posts System Specs	right ok cheers id just never heard the term VMware __________________ Womack & Womack : Duran Duran : The Specials : Madness : Lionel Richie : Indeep : Michael Jackson : Taylor Dayne : Frank Sinatra : The Gap Band : Wild Cherry : Fleetwood Mack : Blondie : Bee Gees : Wham : Snap : MC Hammer : Bill Withers : Louis Armstrong : Percy Mayfield : Ray Charles : Ben E. King : Bob Marley : The Temptations : The Marvelettes : Elvis Presley : Chic : Sister Sledge : The Clash : The Ramones : The Sex Pistols Where's all the talent gone?

May 1, 2009, 02:28 AM	#25
TroyForum Join Date: May 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 3 (0.00/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Use an old Dell for a Win98 Gaming Computer I recommend using an old Dell computer for an old Windows 98SE gaming computer. I've done this myself on two computers. My old Win98 computer died on me and I had to find a replacement last year. You can go to the Dell website and look for models that still have Windows 98 drivers that you can download from the Dell website. I think this is easier than trying to build a computer from scratch. Sometimes you can find old office computers on the net or at local computer stores. First I put together an old Dell Optiplex GX50, but the PSU and configuration didn't allow me to get the video card I wanted. Right now, I keep it as a backup for Win98 games that can run on integrated graphics. I found the the most powerful Dell computer that still had Win98 drivers on their website is a Optiplex GX260. If you by the MiniTower configuration, this give you more options in installing a video card. Then you can search for the most powerful video card that also has Win98SE drivers available. I found that Omega Drivers can work w/ older Radeon cards. I found the most powerful Radeon card that could run on the PSU for the MiniTower GX260 was this: 128MB ATI Radeon 9600XT AGP 8x VGA DVI Tv DDR 9600 XT 100437100 100-437100 So I put these two together w/ the Omega Drivers and it works fine. I can run my Win98SE games just fine w/ the Radeon 9600XT. I've got it loaded w/ a couple of dozen different games that all play w/ good framerated under the 9600XT. I alot put alot of free software on it that runs in Win98SE, but I only use it for gaming. I understand that alot of people just use emulation software, but not me. I'm sorry, but some of my favorite computer games only run in Win98. They all can't run properly in WinXP and some of the can't even get started in Vista. I also find it very easy to do a clean install of Win98SE if it's needed. I don't have to verify anything w/ Bill Gates to put together my Win98 gaming computers. TroyForum

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