Thermal Paste - Q6600 Overclocking

freebie · Mar 19, 2011, 04:27 PM

Hi everyone,

I've read round hundreds of different posts now, and i'm at a loss.

I have a q6600 which im overclocking. I have a Zalman CNPS 9900 NT cooler.

I've overclocked so far too 2.8ghz, but im gettings temps of 90/95c degrees under load.

I think this is too hot! (not sure if i'm right) (but i know that its hot)

I spread thermal paste on my processor but should i have put a line down the middle or a peas sized blob or have I done it right???

Help?!?!?!

2DividedbyZero · Mar 19, 2011, 04:28 PM

a line down the middle is what I did when i had a Q6600

check your heatsink is actually sitting correctly, sounds like it may not be.

freebie · Mar 20, 2011, 10:54 PM

Cheers for your help, i just had a look at your system specs and saw that you have a H70, i'm thinking of upgrading my Zalman to the new Corsair H60 when it comes out, would you reccommend?

mlee49 · Mar 20, 2011, 10:59 PM

Definately upgrade that Zalman, a Corsair Hx0 would be an excellent upgrade.

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Mar 20, 2011, 11:50 PM

What stepping is it? IIRC, the B3 stepping ran way hotter than the C1 but the C1 also didnt overclock as well as the B3 either. So it was a lose/lose situation.

Definately wanna make sure the cooler is sitting on there tight and put a line across like is shown in post 2.

stevednmc · Mar 20, 2011, 11:55 PM

That is way to hot. Im not comfortable going much above 70c. You should reseat that cooler , applying a line down the center of TIM.

ctrain · Mar 21, 2011, 12:11 AM

sounds like your heatsink isn't mounted well, those temps are completely abnormal

newtekie1 · Mar 21, 2011, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freebie

I spread thermal paste on my processor but should i have put a line down the middle or a peas sized blob or have I done it right???

If you spread the TIM before putting on the heatsink, then you likely created a lot of air bubbles when you put the cooler on, which is probably a big part of your problem.

Clean the old TIM off and just put a half pea sized dot in the middle of the CPU, then apply the heatsink on, the pressure from mounting the heatsink will spread the TIM for you without air bubbles.

erocker · Mar 21, 2011, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctrain

sounds like your heatsink isn't mounted well, those temps are completely abnormal

Agreed. You do not get temps that hot due to an application of thermal grease. Your cooler isn't mounted properly.

neoreif · Mar 21, 2011, 03:17 AM

+1 to Erocker and ctrain! I'd reseat that cooler first before inspecting the TIM! 90degrees celsius is way up already! Almost near TDP!

Chevalr1c · Mar 21, 2011, 01:50 PM

Preferably take the motherboard out of the case (assuming there is no inspection hole behind the right side panel), and check whether you not only see white pins coming through the mounting holes but also some black pin (in between the "legs" of the white pins).

freebie · Mar 22, 2011, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevalr1c

Preferably take the motherboard out of the case (assuming there is no inspection hole behind the right side panel), and check whether you not only see white pins coming through the mounting holes but also some black pin (in between the "legs" of the white pins).

It's screws that come through the back plate?!?!?!

Cheers for all your help guys! Have checked cooler is on tight and seems to be, tightened it as much as i could and now im about 5 degrees cooler on 2.8ghz (311 x 9.0) 1.300v.

Going to see if its any more stable, and then get the h60 when it comes out, that way at least my cooler is future proof, thanks everyone.

95Viper · Mar 22, 2011, 10:53 AM

That Zalman is a grand cooler, I use them.
I have cnps9900led on my qx9650 and a cnps9900max on my i7-950.
But, IMO, if you are going to OC then, I would move away from air and go liquid, like others have mentioned.

I don't see, or I overlooked, what type TIM you are using. Some thermal pastes have a set-up period, so your temps may improve over time.
Also, take into consideration your ambient temps.
Make sure you have good air flow in that case and the zalman is exhausting toward a fan that is exhausting out of the case.

Chevalr1c · Mar 22, 2011, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freebie

It's screws that come through the back plate?!?!?!

Well, I assumed that your cooler uses the standard LGA775 mounting system with those push pins.

freebie · Mar 23, 2011, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevalr1c

Well, I assumed that your cooler uses the standard LGA775 mounting system with those push pins.

Oh I understand what you meant now. Sorry!!

Brilford Wimley · Mar 23, 2011, 07:32 AM

Have you checked to see if your cpu or heatsink needs to be lapped?

Occasionally there is a manufacturing defect on one or the other causing
a gap (air space) between the two.

Here's a short vid. There are lots of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XIYHT03Ie4

Bo$$ · Mar 23, 2011, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrAsHnBuRnXp

What stepping is it? IIRC, the B3 stepping ran way hotter than the C1 but the C1 also didnt overclock as well as the B3 either. So it was a lose/lose situation.

Definately wanna make sure the cooler is sitting on there tight and put a line across like is shown in post 2.

G0 is the cooler stepping not C1

What voltage are you putting through it?

I use a small centralized blob on mine and it works wonders, never exceeds 55C during anything but linpack

Bjorn_Of_Iceland · Mar 23, 2011, 09:35 AM

a few micro specs of air bubbles wont make such a drastic change in temps. Try adding a filler paper at your back plate to raise it a bit, and compress your heatsink more.

Bo$$ · Mar 23, 2011, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Of_Iceland

a few micro specs of air bubbles wont make such a drastic change in temps. Try adding a filler paper at your back plate to raise it a bit, and compress your heatsink more.

he may be putting too much paste, then not tightening

but this sounds like he is pumping WAY too much voltage through that poor processor

freebie · Mar 23, 2011, 08:41 PM

I've got 1.3000v going through it. these are temps without running any stress tests or using pc, switch it on and then let everything load then screenshot.

i've checked my cooler is on tight, i'm going to reseat it when i get chance.

freebie · Mar 23, 2011, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Of_Iceland

a few micro specs of air bubbles wont make such a drastic change in temps. Try adding a filler paper at your back plate to raise it a bit, and compress your heatsink more.

stupid question - Whats filler paper?

overclocking101 · Mar 23, 2011, 10:06 PM

its like a spacer to add mounting preassure. really anything will work pennies quarters cardboard. something to wedge it more so it makes better contact

ctrain · Mar 24, 2011, 01:33 AM

you didn't do something silly like forget to remove the film before putting the heatsink on did you?

95Viper · Mar 24, 2011, 01:51 AM

Run prime95, realtemp and cpuz.
Take screen shots and post.

Plus, after everything loads, does your cpu load ever go lower than the 43% to 55% in that screen shot in post #20?

'Cause it looks like your system ain't idle, it is doing something.

freebie · Mar 24, 2011, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctrain

you didn't do something silly like forget to remove the film before putting the heatsink on did you?

Lol, definitely removed the film!

Mar 19, 2011, 04:27 PM	#1
freebie Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Walsall Posts: 171 (0.18/day) Thanks: 111 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts System Specs	Thermal Paste - Q6600 Overclocking Hi everyone, I've read round hundreds of different posts now, and i'm at a loss. I have a q6600 which im overclocking. I have a Zalman CNPS 9900 NT cooler. I've overclocked so far too 2.8ghz, but im gettings temps of 90/95c degrees under load. I think this is too hot! (not sure if i'm right) (but i know that its hot) I spread thermal paste on my processor but should i have put a line down the middle or a peas sized blob or have I done it right??? Help?!?!?!

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Mar 19, 2011, 04:28 PM	#2
2DividedbyZero Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: in retarded hell Posts: 765 (0.44/day) Thanks: 31 Thanked 202 Times in 146 Posts	a line down the middle is what I did when i had a Q6600 check your heatsink is actually sitting correctly, sounds like it may not be. Attached Thumbnails __________________ RETARDS Last edited by 2DividedbyZero; Mar 19, 2011 at 05:05 PM.

Mar 20, 2011, 10:54 PM	#3
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Mar 20, 2011, 11:55 PM	#6
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Mar 21, 2011, 12:11 AM	#7
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Mar 23, 2011, 09:35 AM	#18
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Mar 23, 2011, 08:41 PM	#20
freebie Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Walsall Posts: 171 (0.18/day) Thanks: 111 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts System Specs	I've got 1.3000v going through it. these are temps without running any stress tests or using pc, switch it on and then let everything load then screenshot. i've checked my cooler is on tight, i'm going to reseat it when i get chance.

Mar 23, 2011, 10:06 PM	#22
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Mar 24, 2011, 01:33 AM	#23
ctrain Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 384 (0.31/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 72 Times in 59 Posts	you didn't do something silly like forget to remove the film before putting the heatsink on did you?

Mar 24, 2011, 01:51 AM	#24
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