Newegg has 1 AM3+ Board!

Mindweaver · Mar 24, 2011, 05:14 PM

Check it out! nothing fantastic but already having one board should result in have more to come soon!

6 x SATA 6Gb/s

Get Ready for New Generation of 32nm AMD AM3+ CPU

On/Off Charge Technology

Supports next generation of 45nm AMD AM3 CPU

108dB Signal-to-Noise ratio playback

DualBIOS 3TB+ HDD Support (Hybrid EFI Technology)

Turbo XHD- Full Automatic RAID 0/Stripe

AMD OverDrive Support

SNICK · Mar 24, 2011, 05:18 PM

BUT where is bulldozer?

Mindweaver · Mar 24, 2011, 05:20 PM

yea it looks to be only an AMD 870 board.. So this should lead to a bios update for most of the 8xx board to am3+?? But having 6x 6gb sata3 is awesome!..

SNICK · Mar 24, 2011, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindweaver

yea it looks to be only an AMD 870 board.. So this should lead to a bios update for most of the 8xx board to am3+?? But having 6x 6gb sata3 is awesome!..

but 870 class is not an AM3+ Mobo.how they can fit less pinned bulldozer with an soft update

JrRacinFan · Mar 24, 2011, 05:33 PM

GIGABYTE GA-870A-UD3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3....
It's a newer revision of that board with a different socket and more up to date bios.

I would like that board alot. Seems to be a fitting board for budget buyers.

msgclb · Mar 24, 2011, 05:54 PM

I believe the link below is the same motherboard listed on Newegg. I've come to the conclusion that some previous chipsets work with bulldozer as long as you have the necessary socket. If you look at the image below you'll notice the socket is black. I'd bet if your AMD boards socket is white you're out of luck for bulldozer.

Gigabyte GA-870A-USB3 Rev. 3.1, 870 (dual PC3-10667U DDR3) ab €73,60

erocker · Mar 24, 2011, 05:56 PM

I can download a beta bios for Bulldozer with my motherboard already. Bulldozer will fit in an AM3 socket.

SNICK · Mar 24, 2011, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

I can download a beta bios for Bulldozer with my motherboard already. Bulldozer will fit in an AM3 socket.

may i know how AM3 Boards can power AM3+ socketed processors?

TheMailMan78 · Mar 24, 2011, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

I can download a beta bios for Bulldozer with my motherboard already. Bulldozer will fit in an AM3 socket.

But isn't officially supported by AMD.

Anyway until I see a 990FX ROG board I care not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNICK

may i know how AM3 Boards can power AM3+ socketed processors?

140w.

erocker · Mar 24, 2011, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

But isn't officially supported by AMD.

Isn't it?

cdawall · Mar 24, 2011, 06:04 PM

who said bulldozer was going to be higher wattage than the current phenom chips and how many boards can power a thuban @4.5ghz 24/7 because thats a good bit over 200w. i know my 790FX can as could my 790GX and 890FX.

TheMailMan78 · Mar 24, 2011, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by erocker

Isn't it?

No its not according to JMD or whatever the reps. name is on here. Mobo makers be hackin yo!

Thassodar · Mar 24, 2011, 06:06 PM

Boo PCI-E 16x, 4x. I would have assumed that newer boards (AM3+) would be at least PCI-E 8x, 8x. Maybe my standards are too high.

mastrdrver · Mar 24, 2011, 06:09 PM

Over on XS (I think) I read that the reason certain Asus boards will work with Bulldozer on their AM3 boards is because they wired up the socket with preparation for Bulldozer in mind.

erocker · Mar 24, 2011, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

No its not according to JMD or whatever the reps. name is on here. Mobo makers be hackin yo!

Not really hacking. The difference between 890fx and 990fx are going to be very minimal. Power saving features and stuff like that. I don't see how the chipset can affect performance with AMD. HT link isn't a factor, North Bridge (IMC controller) is in the CPU. For a lot of 890fx boards all it will take are some new heatsinks and possibly a different color scheme to make it 990fx.

SNICK · Mar 24, 2011, 06:13 PM

can anyone explain the bench results
http://openbenchmarking.org/s/AMD%20...182045TGG43_28

msgclb · Mar 24, 2011, 06:28 PM

I found this statement from AMD. link

Quote:

After several days of silence, AMD still made a statement relating to the alleged compatibility of its future high-processor architecture, Bulldozer with existing motherboards platform AM3. According to John Fryuyhe (John Fruehe), occupying at AMD as the director of product marketing for servers and embedded systems, the company from Sunnyvale will officially support the installation of desktop chips Bulldozer, known under the code name of the Zambezi, only the new socket AM3 +.
AMD will support the installation of a Bulldozer in socket AM3 +

Actually, this means that, despite the possibility of using the Zambezi processors with motherboards equipped with socket AM3, AMD's do not support such decisions and say this kind of configuration hacking. " However, it is unlikely these statements will stop many enthusiasts and just experienced users who want to save money on buying a new motherboard under the CPU architecture Bulldozer. Especially on the side of consumers made a well-known manufacturer, like ASUS, not so long ago, has officially confirmed the compatibility of some of its high-AM3 motherboards with chips Zambezi after updating the BIOS.

So AMD considers the using of the socket AM3 a hack.

erocker · Mar 24, 2011, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msgclb

I found this statement from AMD. link

So AMD considers the using of the socket AM3 a hack.

Sure, it hacks into their sales for AM3+ boards!

I wonder what their board partners call it? Either way, I'll be trying my Bulldozer on my AM3 board first.

cdawall · Mar 24, 2011, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msgclb

I found this statement from AMD. link

So AMD considers the using of the socket AM3 a hack.

They consider unlocking chips a hack too. That sure stopped manuf from allowing unlocks

mastrdrver · Mar 24, 2011, 09:27 PM

Nex 73 on XS

Quote:

Ok, a little more info from kinc

Quote:

Featured AM3 processors such PII X6 uses 938 of 940 AM3s connection entries (two of which were never and are not routed by default, except the cards ASUS lists in their press release). AM3 + socket has 941 connections. AM3 + CPUs, however, has 940 connections, the exact same number of AM3 socket. Hence it is suitable even reasonable physical. Just be aware that it "only" works in practice with the motherboards on ASUS list.
Important to say is that it's only those who work when they have the correct routing to the power circuitry to operate a AM3 + CPUs.

So there you have the explaination to why it doesn't work on ex: gigabyte boards before v3.1
Asus has routed the extra am3 socket pin-holes on the listed models, where the other manufacturers have not.

Undead46 · Mar 24, 2011, 09:36 PM

I wonder if someone is actually going to buy it 3 months prior of Bulldozer release date... >.>

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