RAID 0 - Help wanted once again

Techtu · Apr 13, 2011

Thinking of giving up. Im really not getting anywhere

erocker · Apr 13, 2011

1. Install windows on the SSD in AHCI mode. Have the SSD the only drive hooked up.

2. Once windows is installed, shut down and switch the SSD over to one of the IDE ports. Connect your raid drives to 1-4 and set it to Raid. Setup Raid 0 in your bios.

1-4 = Raid ~ Two raid HDD's
5-6 = IDE ~ SSD (Don't worry about it being in IDE, that will change and it's already set for AHCI in Windows)

3. Boot up into windows and install the AMD AHCI Raid drivers (the raid drives should be in your device manager now). Shut down.

4. Move the SSD over to port 1-4 with the Raid drives

Enjoy.

This issue is that you can't install the Raid drivers (which also work as AHCI drivers with a single drive) until you have both Raid drives set in your array and for some reason it will not install AHCI drives while in Raid with a single drive, hence why you need to do these steps.

Any questions, just ask. It's kind of a wierd way to have to do it, but the only way I know how to get it to work properly.

If you're not running your Windows driver in AHCI mode, leave it on an IDE port.

Techtu · Apr 13, 2011

I don't have an ssd lol

TheoneandonlyMrK · Apr 14, 2011

a whacky one but have you tried plugging the two raid drives into different ports as this also messes up any raid array configured on mine and splits it back up ,how big is this drive x and whats its volume label its not the system volume partition is it windows makes a sepperate 100mb hidden sort of drive it calls system volume info when it makes a raid drive and can sometimes even put it on a different disk to the one youd think (happened to me)

big up erocker if you ment me thats exactly the arseing about i had todo but also had to update bios with OCZ written bios :eek:

greatly worried me and lots of retrys but i got there

that could also be it im not sure but do AMD do a firmware update seperate for your sata chip i ask cos mine which was i ich9r with sata 7.5 got upgraded to what it says is ich10r do sata 8.5 by ocz though yours being amd is not exactly my spesh either

dont give up dude ( well get some kip ifits late) youll get there n be like yeh man

Techtu · Apr 14, 2011

Yeh I tried different ports but with no avail, this X drive I keep talking about... well here's a photo of it

and one of what it tell's me to why I cant install an OS...

I've also used the latest drivers from the Asus website, I think this X drive somehow occurred when I created the software RAID, but now it's just.... draining the life out of me.

erocker · Apr 14, 2011

Techtu said:
I don't have an ssd lol

Oops, I cut and pasted from a previous post of mine. Okay. What drive(s) do you have your O/S on? Are the Raid 0 drives going to have the O/S on it? List what is going to go on what drive(s).

**If they are new drives you just want to put in Raid, put your other two drives on port 5 and 6. Hook the raid drives up to ports 1-4 then go into the raid utility in the bios. Set it up, enter windows and install your raid drivers.

Techtu · Apr 14, 2011

erocker said:
List what is going to go on what drive(s).

Currently OS is installed on my 500Gb Maxtor.

I want my OS on a RAID 0 config - Using 2 WD Blue drives.

EDIT: Just seen your edit.... I should of done that to start with, but some how I missed that step and created a software RAID within Windows, which has created a drive called "Boot (X)" see photo's above, and now I'm unable to simply create a RAID through the usual way.

Athlonite · Apr 14, 2011

so you've set the AMD sata controller to RAID in the bios and gone into the raid config at boot time to create the array then, this really needs to be done before an windows install as windows just tends to mung things completely you then install windows onto the raid0 array as you would an normal HDD

Techtu · Apr 14, 2011

Yep, I found out the hard way that Windows just screws things up with RAID (especially when the user has no idea of how to do it the first time around lol).

There's a utility in the RAID config at BIOS something about "Full erase" basically just some kind of low level format I believe as I also accidently pressed the button to see what it actually does, and there was no escaping the fact it took an hour and half to "erase" just one disc... anyway's tomorrow I think I'll run that on both of the drives and hope that it will get rid of the stupid X drive that is driving me insane!!!

Athlonite · Apr 14, 2011

yer atleast the good thing about win7 and vista ya dont need no stinkin floppy drive for drivers any usb stick or cd or hdd will do.... I made my first raid0 array a few years ago on two 80 gig WD HDD's it was quite a learning experience so good luck take your time and you'll get it going right

JrRacinFan · Apr 14, 2011

Might I suggest RT7 lite. With it you can slipstream your RAID drivers into the Windows OS installation disc (throw a pm or post if you got questions about it). Sorry to hear about the long drawn out process, but at least you know how to do it again if you need to.

Athlonite · Apr 14, 2011

JrRacinFan said:
Might I suggest RT7 lite. With it you can slipstream your RAID drivers into the Windows OS installation disc (throw a pm or post if you got questions about it). Sorry to hear about the long drawn out process, but at least you know how to do it again if you need to.

Yeah very handy dandy proggy that I used it to remake my USB install copy added all the drivers I need to install and slip streamed SP1 at the same time

Techtu · Apr 14, 2011

Okay so as it is... Im installing windows on the array. Low leveled the drives but "boot X" was still there and stopping me from getting any further, so no idea what made me do the thing i did next.. Which was eject the dvd and then simply push back in and what do ya know it started installing!

So now how would i go about ghosting my current OS onto the new array, which now has a fresh OS installed on...

I'm guessing that I'd just have to format the array to get rid of the Windows I just installed, and then simply ghost my current OS onto the array?

JrRacinFan · Apr 14, 2011

Your board you are working on is it the M4A87TD EVO? Let me look at specs of the board and I will edit my post.

Techtu · Apr 14, 2011

Yes, that's the one.

I found your post quite useful, and will probably use it at some point, but for now I'd much rather ghost my current OS as I've got so many thing's set up just the way I like

not to mention everything I have installed and most importantly my game saves

JrRacinFan · Apr 14, 2011

Since you posted, you may need to do a clone with WD Acronis utilities (picked that since it's free for you) but I really strongly suggest a fresh install. I was looking at to see if you have a few SATA ports onboard with a seperate controller, sata 6 on a different controller. Unfortunately you don't . Would have made it ALOT easier, click and go.

Fresh install!! Just migrate everything over any files you need backed up just copy/pasta & format your old OS drive, methinks you should have done RAID 5 with 3 drives instead of 0 with 2.

Techtu · Apr 14, 2011

So I've decided to go ahead with the fresh install over ghosting my current OS, I've just ran the Windows index thingy, and my RAID array only score's a 5.9 there... I know the index score is pretty lame at the best of times but surely this should of changed even if just a little?

erocker · Apr 14, 2011

Techtu said:
So I've decided to go ahead with the fresh install over ghosting my current OS, I've just ran the Windows index thingy, and my RAID array only score's a 5.9 there... I know the index score is pretty lame at the best of times but surely this should of changed even if just a little?

Who cares what Windows experience whatever says. Use a HDD benching program like ATTO or HD Tach and see what the numbers tell you.

Techtu · Apr 14, 2011

I used HD Tach already... scored an average read of 186mb, burst speed went upto something like 565mb or something... I'll post back with some results to share, a little later on anyways once I've had enough of re-arranging of my data .

TheoneandonlyMrK · Apr 14, 2011

fresh brain on the issue does wonders, good on ya

Techtu · Apr 14, 2011

theoneandonlymrk said:
fresh brain on the issue does wonders, good on ya

True!!

I have no idea why ejecting the DVD worked though... however I aint complaining no more :toast:

EDIT: Here's a screen shot of HD Tach & Atto

Another edit:

Now what program can I use to monitor my HDD temp's? as HWMonitor no longer detect's them.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Apr 14, 2011

looks good m8, im kicking myself for not asking what was on x last night id def have twigged, whacky though

I have had similar aches in the past as ive been raid 0 in the last few years and its still not been made any user friendlier to do nice read spds though better then i got with 2

ive not yet found that piece of soft let me know if you have any luck

Maban · Apr 14, 2011

Techtu said:
Now what program can I use to monitor my HDD temp's? as HWMonitor no longer detect's them.

AIDA64 is the only one I know of that reads SMART info in arrays.

Athlonite · Apr 15, 2011

Maban said:
AIDA64 is the only one I know of that reads SMART info in arrays.

Um unfortunately it doesn't read temp from raid arrays if the chipset doesn't allow for it like on mine 2x WD2500AAJS on the Marvell 88SE6121 Serial ATA II Host Controller there's no pass through of SMART info

generally though if you have fairly good airflow in your case you should be fine mine when getting an hard workout barely breach 35c

Techtu · Apr 15, 2011

Ah right ok then, I'll stop searching for something what will work then aha!

I noticed when I was in IDE mode using my other single drive as boot that the WD Blue idle temp's was around 23/24 degree's, which is about average for my HDD temps this time of the year, I may even get round to buying some temperature probe's for my case

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RAID 0 - Help wanted once again

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Athlonite

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