Mobo or Case? Start and restart before booting

AbnerDoon · May 8, 2011, 06:20 PM

I have an Asus P67 Sabertooth mobo and a Antec P193 case. When I first power up it starts then shuts down and restarts then boots fine. I have the power plugged in correctly according to the board layout. To be on the safe side if the case was wired wrong I even tried reversing the position of the + and - connectors. But exact same issue is there. I am not sure what else to try at this point.

2DividedbyZero · May 8, 2011, 06:27 PM

does it with my x58 RIIE, random - not every boot - but upto 3 restarts when I power on, sometimes it boots up 1st time - doesn't really bother me but I'd like to know what the cause may be - I presume it's o/c related.

freebie · May 8, 2011, 07:20 PM

My machine only does that when over clocked, I thought it was a safety feature, when it was checking itself or something.

theJesus · May 8, 2011, 07:24 PM

My gf and I were talking about why her computer does that a lot too, but it's hard to determine since not one part in there is the same as when it was built and it's been doing it the whole time.

2DividedbyZero · May 8, 2011, 07:37 PM

actually, i think i know exactly what it is..

fecking gremlins

freebie · May 8, 2011, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2DividedbyZero

actually, i think i know exactly what it is..

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...QL51oXUcNrqmdK
fecking gremlins

i agree

AbnerDoon · May 8, 2011, 08:10 PM

Ugh cross dressing gremlins at that those are the hardest to get rid of.

Well if this seems to be a built in oc check or somesuch maybe I will just ignore it. As far as I can tell it is not hurting anything.

lilhasselhoffer · May 8, 2011, 08:17 PM

The problem has to be with the mobo.

Switches attached to the motherboard do not have a polarity. Switching the + and - will do absolutely nothing, because the switch does not remain "on" while the computer remains on (and completes a loop without any diodes). Consider that you hold down the power button for several seconds to do a soft reboot.

The simplest answer is that the bios on the motherboard is screwy. Try a reflash of the most up to date bios, and pray that it's that easy. If a newer bios doesn't solve your issue then the cause may as well be Gremlins.

theJesus · May 8, 2011, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilhasselhoffer

If a newer bios doesn't solve your issue then the cause may as well be Gremlins.

Or PSU . . . Gremlins in the PSU

Crap Daddy · May 8, 2011, 08:26 PM

Have you messed with something in the BIOS? I had this problem when I disabled Spread Spectrum on my ASRock.

AbnerDoon · May 8, 2011, 08:32 PM

Not yet fresh build haven't even started overclocking yet. Was just monitoring performance and outside of this it seems perfectly stable.

-edit-
Forget to mention the board has the latest bios and I did reflash yesterday. I also reset the cmos but no change.

JrRacinFan · May 8, 2011, 08:52 PM

Ignore it. I had a few s775 boards & a socket A that did the same thing you described. 2 out of 3 of those boards are still alive n kicking.

jmarker · May 16, 2011, 11:36 PM

I have the same board Sabertooth P67 Rev 3 with a Core i7 2600k overclocked at 4.5Ghz. My board started doing the same thing after I clocked it. It's been fine, but I'm figuring that's what it is. I press the power button, the case lights and PSU fan come on for about 3-5 seconds then it shuts off for about 3 seconds, then it will turn itself back on and boot just fine. I use an OC profile and I think that's what it might be. It boots into a non-profile, then finds the BIOS OC profile I made and reboots. That's just a guess, but I have zero problems with it. Knock on wood. I figured I'd subscribe to the board to let you know you are not alone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbnerDoon

I have an Asus P67 Sabertooth mobo and a Antec P193 case. When I first power up it starts then shuts down and restarts then boots fine. I have the power plugged in correctly according to the board layout. To be on the safe side if the case was wired wrong I even tried reversing the position of the + and - connectors. But exact same issue is there. I am not sure what else to try at this point.

2DividedbyZero · Jun 13, 2011, 05:02 PM

well I found the reason my mobo would do this = 2 gfx cards fitted. It was bugging me so tried and tested a few things, took 1 card out and now it boots 1st time every time.

I guess it must be a power checking issue with 2 cards fitted, but as long as it works 100% then I guess it matters not

just worth finding the reason.

scaminatrix · Jun 13, 2011, 05:05 PM

Happened with me loads of times on loads of different boards. It's always been the same in my situations: CMOS battery was dead. Replaced and all worked fine.

hellrazor · Jun 13, 2011, 05:57 PM

I used to have this problem and it turns out my shitty $3 PSU couldn't handle going from nothing to booting without taking a few seconds to warm up.

Got an actual PSU and haven't had the problem since.

theJesus · Jun 14, 2011, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scaminatrix

Happened with me loads of times on loads of different boards. It's always been the same in my situations: CMOS battery was dead. Replaced and all worked fine.

Interesting, I feel somewhat embarrassed that I didn't think of that

I might have my gf swap with some spares some time.

user21 · Jun 18, 2011, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbnerDoon

I have an Asus P67 Sabertooth mobo and a Antec P193 case. When I first power up it starts then shuts down and restarts then boots fine. I have the power plugged in correctly according to the board layout. To be on the safe side if the case was wired wrong I even tried reversing the position of the + and - connectors. But exact same issue is there. I am not sure what else to try at this point.

thats one of the second problem i had with my sabertooth, 2nt was abnormal temp of cpu and motherboard and the 1st one was same as yours, please update your bios to the latest one, i did so and got ride of this problem!!!

Mussels · Jun 18, 2011, 02:32 PM

its actually a feature on many boards, part of their protection against bad OC settings.

they boot up at stock clocks, then reboot with your OC settings. you'll notice that from a restart in windows, they dont re-test (powers on first time) again when this is the case.

agamemnon · Aug 23, 2011, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scaminatrix

Happened with me loads of times on loads of different boards. It's always been the same in my situations: CMOS battery was dead. Replaced and all worked fine.

My Asus P6X58d-e motherboard developed this problem this past Saturday after Windows-7 (64 bit) crashed. It was a major crash, and I had to reinstall the operating system.

This is a relatively new motherboard. Also, the cmos is holding the date, time, and bios settings. Wouldn't this rule out a dead battery?

Please advise.

Thank you.

Mussels · Aug 24, 2011, 05:37 AM

if its holding date and time even after unplugging mains power for a few minutes, the CMOS battery is fine.

May 8, 2011, 06:20 PM	#1
AbnerDoon Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 7 (0.01/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Mobo or Case? Start and restart before booting I have an Asus P67 Sabertooth mobo and a Antec P193 case. When I first power up it starts then shuts down and restarts then boots fine. I have the power plugged in correctly according to the board layout. To be on the safe side if the case was wired wrong I even tried reversing the position of the + and - connectors. But exact same issue is there. I am not sure what else to try at this point.

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May 8, 2011, 06:27 PM	#2
2DividedbyZero Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: in retarded hell Posts: 765 (0.44/day) Thanks: 31 Thanked 202 Times in 146 Posts	does it with my x58 RIIE, random - not every boot - but upto 3 restarts when I power on, sometimes it boots up 1st time - doesn't really bother me but I'd like to know what the cause may be - I presume it's o/c related. __________________ RETARDS

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May 8, 2011, 07:37 PM	#5
2DividedbyZero Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: in retarded hell Posts: 765 (0.44/day) Thanks: 31 Thanked 202 Times in 146 Posts	actually, i think i know exactly what it is.. fecking gremlins __________________ RETARDS

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AbnerDoon Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 7 (0.01/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Ugh cross dressing gremlins at that those are the hardest to get rid of. Well if this seems to be a built in oc check or somesuch maybe I will just ignore it. As far as I can tell it is not hurting anything.

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AbnerDoon Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 7 (0.01/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Not yet fresh build haven't even started overclocking yet. Was just monitoring performance and outside of this it seems perfectly stable. -edit- Forget to mention the board has the latest bios and I did reflash yesterday. I also reset the cmos but no change.

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2DividedbyZero Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: in retarded hell Posts: 765 (0.44/day) Thanks: 31 Thanked 202 Times in 146 Posts	well I found the reason my mobo would do this = 2 gfx cards fitted. It was bugging me so tried and tested a few things, took 1 card out and now it boots 1st time every time. I guess it must be a power checking issue with 2 cards fitted, but as long as it works 100% then I guess it matters not just worth finding the reason. __________________ RETARDS

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