2600k@stock/NH-D14 high temps. Any suggestions?

[mesh]

Im getting high idle's at stock with my NH-D14.
2600k
Asus WS Revolution
8gb g.skill
corsiar ax1200
2xevga 580sc's

Idle @ 40degress
prime load runs at 59degress and again this is all at stock speeds.

Any experiences/suggestions? I left it running prime for 20mins and the heat pipes arent hot or even warm i would say. Seems obvious that its some sort of contact issue, but I already re-applied the thermal paste. Im using the paste that came with my NH-D14 by the way. Currently its running on my test bench (open air). Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks in advance.

[cadaveca]

so you have a pic of the contact pattern with paste you applied?

I tell ya what..i have 2x2600..one is very hot, the other, not so much.

what is idle speed?

what is idle volts?

[streetfighter 2]

Nice rig dude!

Ditto to what cadaveca said. Also . . .

What's ambient temp? If it's like 35C or something, then I'm not seeing a problem.

Also, while you're in the kitchen can you grab me a beer?

[mesh]

Originally Posted by streetfighter 2

Nice rig dude!

Ditto to what cadaveca said. Also . . .

What's ambient temp? If it's like 35C or something, then I'm not seeing a problem.

Also, while you're in the kitchen can you grab me a beer?

Thanks! Beer comin' up. All i have is Modelo


Okay so coretemp reports 40's as idle and Asus bios (newest version) report 48's about 10 degrees off

cpu voltage in the asus bios is +1.120
Core Temp is shoiwng "VID" as 0.98 (idle)
cpu-z is idleing @ 1605mhz with "core voltage" 0.92 (idle)


Thanks in advance by the way.

[streetfighter 2]

Originally Posted by mesh

Thanks! Beer comin' up. All i have is Modelo

Ambient temps must be high if you have Modelo.

Originally Posted by mesh

Okay so coretemp reports 40's as idle and Asus bios (newest version) report 48's about 10 degrees off

The BIOS usually has a light load on the CPU which should make the temp higher in the BIOS vs. Windows. (I'm certain this is still true for the standard ASUS P8P67 w/ 2600K because I tested it myself.)

Originally Posted by mesh

cpu voltage in the asus bios is 1.120
Core Temp is shoiwng "VID" as 0.98 (idle)
cpu-z is idleing @ 1605mhz with "core voltage" 0.92 (idle)

Looks normal to me.

You're sure the heatsink is firmly/evenly seated? You check the contact pattern with the paste as cadaveca mentioned?

[mesh]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

so you have a pic of the contact pattern with paste you applied?

I tell ya what..i have 2x2600..one is very hot, the other, not so much.

what is idle speed?

what is idle volts?

Originally Posted by streetfighter 2

Ambient temps must be high if you have Modelo.

The BIOS usually has a light load on the CPU which should make the temp higher in the BIOS vs. Windows. (I'm certain this is still true for the standard ASUS P8P67 w/ 2600K because I tested it myself.)

Looks normal to me.

You're sure the heatsink is firmly/evenly seated? You check the contact pattern with the paste as cadaveca mentioned?

Will do. Thanks guys. I found a Stella dude! Wanna call it?

Thanks for taking the time cadaveca. Ill snap a pic and post. Peace.

[20mmrain]

so r u overclocked at all or are u at normal speed? If u are at normal speed I would say its a little high

[mesh]

Originally Posted by 20mmrain

so r u overclocked at all or are u at normal speed? If u are at normal speed I would say its a little high

Thats whats making me sad lol. This is at stock. Below are the thermal paste patches.

[Funtoss]

hows the weather over there? summer winter?

[mesh]

Originally Posted by Funtoss

hows the weather over there? summer winter?

Los Angeles so its somewhat warm, but not scorching.

[meran]

seems bad contact is the cooler base concaved or the cpu??

because im using cooler master v8 in iraq (you know how hot here) with my q9560 oced to 3.6 doesnt touch 60c 4ghz @1.25about 68-70c

[streetfighter 2]

mesh, that's definitely an insufficient application of thermal paste. You want the full area of the CPU's heat spreader to have an incredibly thin layer of thermal paste to maximize contact area.

The die of the 2600K is a good bit longer than it is wide so I opted for the two line method of paste application.
2600K with die superimposed: http://benchmarkreviews.com/images/r...ransparent.jpg
Two line method: http://benchmarkreviews.com/images/a..._Two_Lines.jpg

With regard to flatness of the 2600K, if it's anything like the one I have it's not very good: concave in the center and also dipping at the corners. I'm far too lazy to sand the IHS though

Originally Posted by meran

is the cooler base concaved

Dude, thats an NH-D14 -- it's flatter than flat.

[Law-II]

Hiya

Temps look fine for a test bench enviroment on air; air flow will differ from a case, as for thermal compound spread;

take a look at this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...Lu1Ms-q4#t=29s

atb

Law-II

[mesh]

I just cleaned both my chip and cpu real good like. I do notice that the corners dip. The dipped corners are pretty obvious in the right light. Thanks again.

[mesh]

Originally Posted by Law-II

Hiya

Temps look fine for a test bench enviroment on air; air flow will differ from a case, as for thermal compound spread;

take a look at this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...Lu1Ms-q4#t=29s

atb

Law-II

Thanks for the link to the videos. Line method seems to be the best.
Edit- the pea method seems to be the best actually. Cool idea with the acrylic piece.

[Zenith]

Pea method all the way. I am having my 2600K+D14 overclocked to 4.7GHz with 1.35Vcore and not exceeding 32*C in idle with all power saving options OFF.

[meran]

Originally Posted by Zenith

Pea method all the way. I am having my 2600K+D14 overclocked to 4.7GHz with 1.35Vcore and not exceeding 32*C in idle with all power saving options OFF.

wow thats great do u live in a freezer or something what about load temps?

[mesh]

Im gonna get some sleep, been up since 5am. Tomorrow Im gonna re-seat (pea style) one more time and see what happens. If my temps still suck im then im not what what to try next. Thanks guys, ill let you know tomorrow. Peace

[Law-II]

Hi

If you have no luck H2o is the way to go

atb

Law-II

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by mesh

Im gonna get some sleep, been up since 5am. Tomorrow Im gonna re-seat (pea style) one more time and see what happens. If my temps still suck im then im not what what to try next. Thanks guys, ill let you know tomorrow. Peace

Yeah, I've got about 29c-34c idle in a 17c ambient, wwith EIST idle clocks(1600mhz and lowered votlage is EIST clocks).

You know, I'm using an H70, but with the fans in silent mode...but I do have the D14 and C14, I can toss the D14 on one of my CPUs and see how it does. I'll get around to that in a bit, gotta get some work done on my review for next week.

[mesh]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Yeah, I've got about 29c-34c idle in a 17c ambient, wwith EIST idle clocks(1600mhz and lowered votlage is EIST clocks).

You know, I'm using an H70, but with the fans in silent mode...but I do have the D14 and C14, I can toss the D14 on one of my CPUs and see how it does. I'll get around to that in a bit, gotta get some work done on my review for next week.

Thanks dude but you dont have to do that. You gave me an idea though. Im gonna head over to Fry's and buy an h70 and if I find my temps still suck with the H70 im gonna return it for a full refund . I just woke up so ima head out now. Once installed ill let you know. Peace.

[cadaveca]

It's actually not that big of a deal..I use the NH-C14 on my SB-based review rig, so mounting the NH-D14 is pretty easy. The review rig is completely seperate from the rig I work and game on, as having my work PC in pieces while writing for reviews would suck! I just need to prioritize my time.

That said, your temps seem a bit high, but maybe that's all due to ambient. Your load temps are fairly decent, and match mine almost perfectly on the H70.

[sneekypeet]

Could the 40 degree idle temp be PWM related? As cadaveca says, loads are good, and for good load temps the cooler has to be on right, or damn close to it

My thought is the lack of CFM from Noctua at low speeds would cause a slight raise in idle temps versus most other fans, no?

[mesh]

Thanks for all the replies guys.

Back, whew! Okay so i purchased the H70 and installed and it seems that its fairly consistent. So the issue is not the Noctua becuase with the H70 I get around the same temps as the Noctua. I would give the edge to the Noctua because it was able to match the H70 but with higher ambient temps. Im sure once ambient rises the H70 will fall behind. Noctua is much, much quieter also. Ill probaby end up returnig the H70 as i dont have any memory clearance issues with my ram which would be the only reason for me to buy this cooler. I will admin that i was expecting more after reading reviews. Could it be that this this chip is extra spicy? Man, am i gonna have to run stock? I cant remember the last time I did that lol. Anyone have any thoughts?

[meran]

oh this is what i call bad luck