Booting from onboard usb 3.0?

ShRoOmAlIsTiC · May 23, 2011, 03:41 PM

I have a gigabyte 890fxa-ud5 and I was thinking about getting a usb 3.0 flash drive for it. So just to mess with things, I was trying to boot my windows install usb drive from it and bios wont recognize it. Is it not possible to boot from the onboard usb 3.0 on these 890 boards? Or is it just a gigabyte thing?

cool_recep · May 23, 2011, 06:03 PM

The problem is, USB 3.0 ports on nearly all motherboards are provided by NEC Controller Chip.

In order to boot from USB 3.0, BIOS have to have the apropriate driver for it. Or another option is, USB 3.0 controller have to be inside the north or south bridge.

So, it is not a Gigabyte thing. ATM, nearly all mobos are not able to boot from USB 3.0. When AMD and Intel integrates USB 3.0 to their chipsets, we will be able to boot from it.

ShRoOmAlIsTiC · May 23, 2011, 06:40 PM

thought that might be the issue. thanks for the heads up.

erocker · May 23, 2011, 06:47 PM

It works for me on my Crosshair IV and Gigabyte 890GX. You just need to make sure that the USB drive is bootable, then select it as your boot drive in the HDD boot order in your bios.

ShRoOmAlIsTiC · May 23, 2011, 08:58 PM

usb 3.0? the drive boots off every other slot in the rig except the usb 3.0 slots. the usb 3.0 slots are not detected in the bios for the hdd boot order. no matter what i put in them.

erocker · May 23, 2011, 09:00 PM

I'm quite sure as the last time I installed windows I was using my USB 3.0 flash drive on a USB 3.0 port.

ShRoOmAlIsTiC · May 23, 2011, 09:18 PM

thats freakin wierd man. this is really gonna drive me nuts, on your gigabyte 890gx, do you have the newest bios installed

erocker · May 23, 2011, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShRoOmAlIsTiC

thats freakin wierd man. this is really gonna drive me nuts, on your gigabyte 890gx, do you have the newest bios installed

Actually that was on my Crosshair IV. It uses the Renasas USB 3.0 chip. I can test it out with the gigabyte tonight.

ShRoOmAlIsTiC · May 23, 2011, 09:35 PM

yeah the giga uses renasas too

95Viper · May 24, 2011, 01:46 AM

You need a motherboard with native support in the chipset for booting to "USB 3.0"

You will have to wait 'til Hudson - D3(desktop) or M3(mobile) MBs come out with the native support or wait for Intel to add it... depending on your preference.

AMD First to Natively Support USB 3.0

As, of, right now, I do not know of any add-in cards for USB 3.0 that have the on-board bios boot ROM for that option, either.

Edit: This Z68 MB from ASRock may (personally, have no first hand knowledge of this board) support booting to USB 3.0, as the manual is showing support for enabling legacy devices and USB 3.0 support in the UEFI setup.

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May 23, 2011, 06:40 PM	#3
ShRoOmAlIsTiC Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Palm Desert, CA Posts: 790 (0.25/day) Thanks: 139 Thanked 161 Times in 120 Posts System Specs	thought that might be the issue. thanks for the heads up. __________________ Heatware/Ebay=Shroomalistic

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cool_recep Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Istanbul/Turkey Posts: 353 (0.13/day) Thanks: 43 Thanked 64 Times in 38 Posts System Specs	The problem is, USB 3.0 ports on nearly all motherboards are provided by NEC Controller Chip. In order to boot from USB 3.0, BIOS have to have the apropriate driver for it. Or another option is, USB 3.0 controller have to be inside the north or south bridge. So, it is not a Gigabyte thing. ATM, nearly all mobos are not able to boot from USB 3.0. When AMD and Intel integrates USB 3.0 to their chipsets, we will be able to boot from it.

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ShRoOmAlIsTiC Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Palm Desert, CA Posts: 790 (0.25/day) Thanks: 139 Thanked 161 Times in 120 Posts System Specs	usb 3.0? the drive boots off every other slot in the rig except the usb 3.0 slots. the usb 3.0 slots are not detected in the bios for the hdd boot order. no matter what i put in them. __________________ Heatware/Ebay=Shroomalistic

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erocker Senior Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI. Posts: 32,294 (12.78/day) Thanks: 2,818 Thanked 12,454 Times in 7,920 Posts System Specs	I'm quite sure as the last time I installed windows I was using my USB 3.0 flash drive on a USB 3.0 port. __________________

May 23, 2011, 09:18 PM	#7
ShRoOmAlIsTiC Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Palm Desert, CA Posts: 790 (0.25/day) Thanks: 139 Thanked 161 Times in 120 Posts System Specs	thats freakin wierd man. this is really gonna drive me nuts, on your gigabyte 890gx, do you have the newest bios installed __________________ Heatware/Ebay=Shroomalistic

May 23, 2011, 09:35 PM	#9
ShRoOmAlIsTiC Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Palm Desert, CA Posts: 790 (0.25/day) Thanks: 139 Thanked 161 Times in 120 Posts System Specs	yeah the giga uses renasas too __________________ Heatware/Ebay=Shroomalistic

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